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i’m trying to figure out how to feel about it because I’ve been quite concerned up until recently but when I start to look at the numbers it doesn’t seem as bad as I previously thought, and I am just unsure how to think about it, but I often find myself naive and ignorant about every topic in the world and I wonder what others think about it because I don’t want to look like a clown
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echinopsis posted:I don’t want to look like a clown well
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echinopsis posted:just curious but is there a general consensus on what rates of mortality are required for something to be considered fatal On an average day in America, given a population of ~330m, you would expect pre-covid to see a death rate of around 7700 per day on average. Since the first death in the United States, we've averaged about 1480 deaths a day from covid, every day. 19% excess mortality in perpetuity is somewhat worrying echinopsis posted:i’m trying to figure out how to feel about it because I’ve been quite concerned up until recently but when I start to look at the numbers it doesn’t seem as bad as I previously thought, and I am just unsure how to think about it, but I often find myself naive and ignorant about every topic in the world and I wonder what others think about it because I don’t want to look like a clown I don't know what's happening New Zealand but we're actively being gaslit here into believing that thousands of unnecessary deaths per day is normal and that if you refuse to consume and spend in spite of that you're some kind of freak. 160K Americans died in the first three months of this year due to a surge we were told was going to be 'mild'. In response to those staggering death rates we were told, "poo poo looks good, let's remove all mitigation efforts." If a civilization doesn't revolt due to that blatant disregard for their lives, they never will.
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Risk assessment is a deeply personal and subjective thing. For the past couple weeks Ive been safe and inside. But today my wife was a jerk and I got money, so I'm at a bar drinking till the (packed almost full) 8:45pm showing of Everything Everywhere All At Once. So the moving target must be assessed and weighed against the natural desire for self destruction.
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Apr 13, 2022 00:49
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The Battle of the Bulge resulted in 75k allied deaths over 39 days and is considered one of the great tragedies of the twentieth century. The Omicron surge resulted in 160k American deaths over 89 days and is considered *checks notes* to be "mild"
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turns out the solution is to shame people into mass vaccination offer void in countries where shame has not yet been invented such as the united states
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echinopsis posted:i’m trying to figure out how to feel about it because I’ve been quite concerned up until recently but when I start to look at the numbers it doesn’t seem as bad as I previously thought, and I am just unsure how to think about it, but I often find myself naive and ignorant about every topic in the world and I wonder what others think about it because I don’t want to look like a clown
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Kazinsal posted:turns out the solution is to shame people into mass vaccination Good news, I work in public health metrics and the anti-covid poo poo has created so much backlash that people aren't immunizing their kids anymore for anything traditional childhood immunizations are in the shitter so bad that our regulatory body has called emergency meetings about it https://www.ncqa.org/hedis/measures/childhood-immunization-status/ A shame we don't have an appetite for immunization at gunpoint here. It's quite literally the only way it's happening for covid.
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echinopsis posted:i’m trying to figure out how to feel about it because I’ve been quite concerned up until recently but when I start to look at the numbers it doesn’t seem as bad as I previously thought, and I am just unsure how to think about it, but I often find myself naive and ignorant about every topic in the world and I wonder what others think about it because I don’t want to look like a clown i'm not worried about getting covid once and having issues, i'm worried about getting covid five times and having issues
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I'd have thought that a million+ people dying from a preventable disease would have convinced people to immunize against it, but it in fact has convinced people to drop any and all immunizations in statistically significant degrees. I'm just a random guy in his forties who drinks too much and apparently my desire to live is too high for america.
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Cloks posted:i'm not worried about getting covid once and having issues, i'm worried about getting covid five times and having issues Don't worry, insanely rich people like Jen Psaki and Lamar Jackson, who have access to the best healthcare on earth, have gotten it over and over and been fine. I'm sure you have access to the same resources and you'll be just fine.
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Cloks posted:i'm not worried about getting covid once and having issues, i'm worried about getting covid five times and having issues idk i would be, risks aside i’m reasonably fit for a 40yo (i bike and run most days, etc) and i was literally sick for a year
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mediaphage posted:idk i would be, risks aside i’m reasonably fit for a 40yo (i bike and run most days, etc) and i was literally sick for a year wow, look at this fear mongering
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mediaphage posted:idk i would be, risks aside i’m reasonably fit for a 40yo (i bike and run most days, etc) and i was literally sick for a year why were u sick
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:
our mortality rate appears to be 0.06% Endless Mike posted:well dreams are free Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:
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fart simpson posted:why were u sick he was sick of u OP
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I've lost longtime friends over this, not any sort of "gently caress you we're not talking anymore" but just a kind of slow drifting apart when you aren't in contact so much. I've lost family members who got pissed because I said "you're gonna get sick" and they got pissy about it or they didn't like me implying that they were doing something wrong by partying when all of their servants couldn't be immunized. It sucks but I'm not gonna get the novel virus that can reinfect you every few months and can cause brain damage and vascular damage and god knows what else, gently caress that poo poo. One of my brothers has already had it twice because he works at a university.
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mediaphage posted:idk i would be, risks aside i’m reasonably fit for a 40yo (i bike and run most days, etc) and i was literally sick for a year I wonder if we’re getting baby covid here because every second person I’ve talked to has had it now and they’re like “oh it was a bit poo poo and I was tired for a week but i’m ok now”.
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I wonder if it would be bad to get a booster every month
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echinopsis posted:lol what’d she do Called me a white devil in front of our son (1/4 devil) and her mama (0% devil). Which doesn't bother me much, but her mama was mad offended therefore blessing my temper tantrum.
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echinopsis posted:I wonder if we’re getting baby covid here because every second person I’ve talked to has had it now and they’re like “oh it was a bit poo poo and I was tired for a week but i’m ok now”. If they're not confirming it with a rapid or PCR test they didn't have it I know people who've thought they had covid and people who actually had covid. People who actually had covid say it ain't hard to tell, it loving rolls you like you've never been rolled in your life. There is no question
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KirbyKhan posted:Called me a white devil in front of our son (1/4 devil) and her mama (0% devil). Which doesn't bother me much, but her mama was mad offended therefore blessing my temper tantrum. lol she's right
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"My wife called me a white devil, so I immediately moved to expose her and our child to a deadly disease by the most effective methods known, a theater and a bar. She's such a jerk."
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:lol she's right Lmao I know rite, but she don't get to say it. Specially in front of our baby boy. Specially in front of mixed company. If she doesn't stop now, she's definitely not gonna when he understands language and lmao she wants to keep this bit of the bloodline secret from him. I swear, Americans lose their minds when they arnt allowed to say something. Edit: yes, exactly PFC.
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KirbyKhan posted:Lmao I know rite, but she don't get to say it. Actually she does, because you are.
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It sounds like you're in a hosed phase of your life and I either feel bad for you or I'm glad your stuff goes to poo poo depending on the context which I won't read
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AnimeIsTrash posted:he was sick of u OP i was i still am, though
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KirbyKhan that sounds like a strange dynamic and regardless of their mamas agreement it seems like you’re struggling right now and basically just posting your Ls especially given that you’re discussing going out to two venues in the covid thread
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echinopsis posted:I wonder if we’re getting baby covid here because every second person I’ve talked to has had it now and they’re like “oh it was a bit poo poo and I was tired for a week but i’m ok now”. it's only really worth asking someone who trued relatively hard to avoid it and got it anyway. even then you're going to see the max-vaxed overrepresented. which doesn't help if you are immunocompromised or care about someone who is, or have young pre-vaxxed kids
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:If they're not confirming it with a rapid or PCR test they didn't have it yeah everyone here tests with RAT tests but what’s interesting is the huge variance in how much it affects a person, some people don’t seem to get it bad. my ex wife used it as a holiday with her boyf where she didn’t need to have the boys. a decent percentage of people are asymptomatic and a logical conclusion is that others are only mildly symptomatic. there is no “no true scotsman” thing here where if it was mild or nbd then it wasn’t really covid KirbyKhan posted:Called me a white devil in front of our son (1/4 devil) and her mama (0% devil). Which doesn't bother me much, but her mama was mad offended therefore blessing my temper tantrum. so she’s calling you racist names ? mate attempted racism isn’t cool imo
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echinopsis posted:but what’s interesting is the huge variance in how much it affects a person, some people don’t seem perhaps it’s worth noting that we weee covid free for a long time and got highly vaccinated, over 96% of the entire population (over 12) is partially vaxxed, over 95% fully vaxxed and 72% boosted, and most people got fully vaxxed before omicron started getting its groove on here perhaps the much milder impact we’re seeing is a testament to vaccination done properly
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echinopsis posted:I wonder if it would be bad to get a booster every month i'd be fine with getting a shot every month if it made me immune to getting sick, even if it made me feel gross and bad for a day after like the other ones did, but my understanding is that neither the vaccine nor the immune system work like that and so i just gotta keep waiting i guess. wearing a mask isn't so bad
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i honestly think i look better with a mask so it's been a real boost to my self confidence
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Yeah, couldn't stop posting Ls. I'm cool now. Everything, Everywhere, All At Once is fuckin dope. Find out when it comes to streaming and check that poo poo out.
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Kenny Logins posted:my personal thought is that most people who succumbed to the pressure of OPENRUP have an incentive to downplay the severity of how badly they found out after having hosed around, and/or are just that pathological about trying to pretend things are over ya for the record we got sick early on before vaccinations were possible vaccination does impact severity variably, at least in the sense of shedding virus so it's likely it impacts symptomaticity to some extent, too Stereotype posted:i honestly think i look better with a mask so it's been a real boost to my self confidence same, i'm not that attractive so hiding is nice, also then especially if i wear sunglasses i can roll my eyes and grimace all day long as long as i sound mildly polite
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Stereotype posted:i honestly think i look better with a mask so it's been a real boost to my self confidence I"m a really good looking guy but masking is important, so I've suffered for the common good.
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Stereotype posted:i'd be fine with getting a shot every month if it made me immune to getting sick, even if it made me feel gross and bad for a day after like the other ones did, but my understanding is that neither the vaccine nor the immune system work like that and so i just gotta keep waiting i guess. wearing a mask isn't so bad hell i feel like poo poo way more than once a week i can deal with just being generally miserable of my own volition KirbyKhan posted:Yeah, couldn't stop posting Ls. I'm cool now. its really fukkin good. everyone's firing on all cylinders
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I"m a really good looking guy but masking is important, so I've suffered for the common good. thank you for your service
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