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Just finished Talon of Horus. That was some good poo poo apart from the end which felt tacked on and has to include the mandatory final boss fight. It was a real eye opener about what Chaos Space Marines can be and how they are not all in the thrall of the 4 gods.
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Biplane posted:I thought the Olly Pierson thing was handled very awkwardly, personally. Yeah same. I was reading the whole book like 'why is he impersonating some other guy now?? Where are the rest of his side characters? Only in Abnetts afterword did I get it. That's not great where it takes that to understand something.
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Anyone looking for unlicensed Warhammer 40k Dark Age of Technology stories should check out the Sten Chronicles series by Chris Bunch and Allan Cole. Replace the antimatter2 source reveal in the final book being a minor Warp rift, and leave it ambiguous as to which of the which of the two lead characters in the Sten Chronicles series end up being the W40k Emperor of Mankind; and you'd have a good in-universe banned since the Age of Apostasy alt-secret-history of the Emperor.
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notaspy posted:Just finished Talon of Horus. Read the sequel
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Improbable Lobster posted:Read the sequel I have and I agree with notaspy, the final fight in ToH feels very much like ADB didn't really want to write it but had to hit that plot point. In the sequel, the other Very Important Fight actually gets the pathos it deserves.
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NihilCredo posted:I have and I agree with notaspy, the final fight in ToH feels very much like ADB didn't really want to write it but had to hit that plot point. That's why I said to read the sequel
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Improbable Lobster posted:That's why I said to read the sequel I'm going to read a book about modern monetary theory first
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notaspy posted:I'm going to read a book about modern monetary theory first Which one?
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:Which one? The Deficit Myth
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I finally had Brutal Kunnin make it to the top of my reading pile and it was even better than advertised. Absolutely recommended book. Currently working on Urdesh: The Serpent and The Saint and while it's a real fun read I feel like Farrer is trusting the reader to grok the larger point of the plot a little more than he should. It's not exactly hard to intuit it, but the back cover blurb is simultaneously completely accurate and also meaningless.
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Arquinsiel posted:I finally had Brutal Kunnin make it to the top of my reading pile and it was even better than advertised. Absolutely recommended book. Currently working on Urdesh: The Serpent and The Saint and while it's a real fun read I feel like Farrer is trusting the reader to grok the larger point of the plot a little more than he should. It's not exactly hard to intuit it, but the back cover blurb is simultaneously completely accurate and also meaningless. If you haven't read Brook's other books, especially Rites of Passage you should asap. It's his best IMO. Huron was good too.
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I have, but I agree that it's well worth the recommendation. Probably one of the best 40k books period.
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 Separated from Inquisitor Cowl, Interrogator Spinoza hoists her crozius and sets to protecting what’s left of their organisation while continuing her quest for truth. But can she survive the dire straights she finds herself in, as she guards humanity from enemies within and without? READ IT BECAUSE Luce Spinoza comes into her own, with the weight of her lord’s fate sitting heavy on her shoulders, while pushing forward with their mission. With enemies closing in on all sides, she must choose a path for herself. THE STORY The Throneworld is in turmoil, wracked by the opening of the Great Rift and the failure of the Astronomican. Inquisitor Erasmus Crowl, his mind and body ravaged by what he has seen in the Hollow Mountain, is missing, taking with him the clues to the conspiracy that has come to obsess him. Luce Spinoza, his interrogator, must choose whether to seek him out or defend her diminished realm from the many forces that still seek to destroy it. As enemies circle, Interrogator Spinoza enters a race against time to find the evidence she needs. But with the fate of humanity itself hanging in the balance, she must decide what lengths she is willing to go to in order to uncover the truth. Leak from a discord. No idea on release date but probably before end of year if they've got cover art and summary.
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I love Spinoza. I love Wraight. I love non 30 k books . This looks like a winner
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Interesting that wraight went back to that time line which he had moved past with the other excellent books (talons of the emperor iirc).
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Watchers of the Throne takes place around the same time on Terra as Vaults of Terra, right? They're both excellent series but I found myself mixing up which characters were from which novels.
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Yeah that has the reconstitution of the sisters of silence and tons of custodes stuff Vaults was a more provincial Inquisition story
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Yeah it’s probably why I thought Watchers was more then two (excellent) books.
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I was talking about it in another thread, but I read the Ghazghkull book a week or so ago and I really liked it. An interesting look at Orks and a cool exploration of the Orkish mindset and their beliefs. I really liked the book's format, with perspective shifting from Makari and the inquisitorial retinue interrogating him; I haven't seen anything like that in a BL book. Another cool touch was the change in pronouns, with Makari using "they" to refer to all Orks for the first couple of chapters before one of the Imperials insists that Ghaz is a "he" and the Orkish translator comments that human jdeas of gender are funny. I thought the idea of reincarnation being a core belief (and reality) of Orks helps their mindset be a lot more understandable. If an Ork believes or knows that they're just going to "respawn" when they die (with no regard to behaving altruistically like humans who believe in reincarnation) the value of life and death becomes a lot hazier. The human inquisitor was a cool character, too; I really liked seeing an Ordo Xenos inquisitor reacting to the reality of alien and abhuman personhood and becoming jaded about Imperial dogma. The Ogryn psyker being intelligent in contradiction of Imperial beliefs was a nice touch, too. It was a really great way to write a character biography, exploring some cool concepts along with telling the story instead of just expanding a Codex bio with bolter porn. If you haven't read it, I recommend it highly and hope BL keeps putting out Ork books.
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FishFood posted:I was talking about it in another thread, but I read the Ghazghkull book a week or so ago and I really liked it. An interesting look at Orks and a cool exploration of the Orkish mindset and their beliefs. I really liked the book's format, with perspective shifting from Makari and the inquisitorial retinue interrogating him; I haven't seen anything like that in a BL book. Another cool bit was the change in pronouns, with Makari using "they" to refer to all Orks for the first couple of chapters before one of the Imperials insists that Ghaz is a "he". The Orkish translator comments that human ideas of gender are funny, and then switches to use the more familiar coding. It was a nice touch.
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euphronius posted:It’s easier for me to keep track by just looking at the characters on the covers then remembering the titles . Alas I only really do audiobooks so I generally don’t even remember anything about the cover
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Alas I only really do audiobooks so I generally don’t even remember anything about the cover At least one Custodes appears in both series; as a character in one and then referred to, and turns up momentarily, in the other. I really liked that touch.
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D-Pad posted:
Oh gently caress oh poo poo! Finally some news, Vaults of Terra is top loving tier and I have been dying for news of the next one.
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Is Crowl a vampire ?? (Yes)
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euphronius posted:Interesting that wraight went back to that time line which he had moved past with the other excellent books (talons of the emperor iirc). Kevin DuBrow posted:Watchers of the Throne takes place around the same time on Terra as Vaults of Terra, right? They're both excellent series but I found myself mixing up which characters were from which novels. The first Vaults of Terra book starts shortly before the first Watchers book but by the end of the 2nd Vaults book it's not as far along as the end of the Watchers 1st book. FishFood posted:I was talking about it in another thread, but I read the Ghazghkull book a week or so ago and I really liked it. An interesting look at Orks and a cool exploration of the Orkish mindset and their beliefs. I really liked the book's format, with perspective shifting from Makari and the inquisitorial retinue interrogating him; I haven't seen anything like that in a BL book. Another cool touch was the change in pronouns, with Makari using "they" to refer to all Orks for the first couple of chapters before one of the Imperials insists that Ghaz is a "he" and the Orkish translator comments that human jdeas of gender are funny. Brooks is a great author. The Luther book has a similar interrogation based format where Luther is captured by the Dark Angels during the heresy and is interrogated by successive DA chapter masters over the next 10k years as each finds a need to get answers from the 30k era related to their hunt for the fallen. I really liked it as well.
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I was going to say they were good because there was no Primarchs in them but then I remembered . Rouboute.
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FishFood posted:I thought the idea of reincarnation being a core belief (and reality) of Orks helps their mindset be a lot more understandable. If an Ork believes or knows that they're just going to "respawn" when they die (with no regard to behaving altruistically like humans who believe in reincarnation) the value of life and death becomes a lot hazier. I never got the impression that the Orks believed in reincarnation, it was just that Ghaz needed there to always be a Makari, so there always was. It was his position as the focus of so much WAAAGH energy that allowed him to basically bring him back from the dead, an Orc version of Imperial miracles or Chaos boons
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The orks in the book explicitly say they believe im reincarnation, theres a whole scene where the blood axe translator stumbles over the word
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Vaults of Terra is Eisenhorn/Ravenor-tier good imo, news about another one made me start them again for like the fourth time.
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Been digging through this thread a bit and the OP seems a bit out of date, so hoping for some recommendations. I've been wanting to read another WF40K book, but haven't been so happy with the ones I've just picked up randomly. I'd really like to read more about the Horus Heresy, but was floored to learn that the series is like 54 books long. I read the opening chapters of the Horus Rising and it seems good, but the thought of embarking on a 54 book journey is daunting. How essential is it to stick to the order of books? Any must reads or must skips from the Horus Heresy series? So far I've read: Avenging Son (my favorite one so far, really enjoyed the scenes with the admin clerk trying to deliver that petition) - I've almost purchased the second book of this series a few times, but the reviews are really mixed and it's a different author. Should I go for it? Devastation of Baal (Good, but not as good as Avenging Son. A little too much painstaking descriptions of heraldry and armor during that last supper scene.) Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work (I really like the Mechanicus stuff and liked this one a lot. Some of the back story/side story stuff got a little old, but it was pretty good) I read one of the Eisenhorn books, I believe it was Xenos, and thought it was ok. Might be up for giving the series a second look. I'd welcome your recommendations on other must-read 40k books.
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the Chris Wraight books we’ve been talking about above . They own .
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I never got the impression that the Orks believed in reincarnation, it was just that Ghaz needed there to always be a Makari, so there always was. It was his position as the focus of so much WAAAGH energy that allowed him to basically bring him back from the dead, an Orc version of Imperial miracles or Chaos boons Yeah way back in like the 2nd or 3rd edition of the rulebook it explicitly states that Orks believe their spirits will be vomited back into another body after they die by Gork or Mork.
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notaspy posted:At least one Custodes appears in both series; as a character in one and then referred to, and turns up momentarily, in the other. drat I’m gonna have to start reading that. It’s funny I don’t think I’ve read anything by Dan Abnett yet. I really really do like Chris Wraight, But I’m also expanding in the other writers such as the Sandy and Cain series and ADBs Master of Mankind (Jonathan Keeble is awesome as the emperor, much like he did for the space Marine‘s Codex trailer). Also reading through the dark imperium and dawn of fire series by Guy Haley. I probably should just stick with one book at a time, but with audiobooks it’s so easy to jump around, not always for the best in terms of occasionally mixing something up, but it’s good if you’re kind of like to jump around the setting.
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Bruxism posted:Been digging through this thread a bit and the OP seems a bit out of date, so hoping for some recommendations. I've been wanting to read another WF40K book, but haven't been so happy with the ones I've just picked up randomly. I'd really like to read more about the Horus Heresy, but was floored to learn that the series is like 54 books long. I read the opening chapters of the Horus Rising and it seems good, but the thought of embarking on a 54 book journey is daunting. How essential is it to stick to the order of books? Any must reads or must skips from the Horus Heresy series? Infinite and the Divine is a must read
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