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Jaxyon posted:You can't just say this and then not post beefcake shots. https://twitter.com/emilyhuckabee/status/1550310915576197120 Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Jaxyon posted:You can't just say this and then not post beefcake shots. I assume they are talking about the guy a few seconds in. I'm still wondering about the Starfleet guy. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1550309544265453570 e:fb
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 08:25 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:https://twitter.com/emilyhuckabee/status/1550310915576197120?s=20&t=nIiR5HiE1RcjtV-jOCKWSg It's an iron law of twitter that if your name is Huckabee you will post absolutely dogshit content
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 08:33 |
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beefcake chat aside, it's noteworthy how pivotal Trump personally was in everything that happened. It seems like there's some uh light whitewashing going on of some of the trump admin folks, but in return they're throwing Trump under the bus. Cippolone gave at moments some of the most damning testimony about Trump while also giving an exceedingly strong defense of the rest of the actual trump admin. Basically the trump admin folks are asserting that they're institutionalist republicans, which is probably something of a stretch if you talked to some of them 2 years ago, but it's also a pretty powerful signal that his entire white house staff is disavowing him. On the other end you have Trump and the 'clown car' of bannon, flynn, giuliani, stone, eastman, kraken lady, pillow guy, a handful of others and the right wing militias that most aggressively pushed into the capitol. tldr: interesting to see that much of the actual trump administration disavow his actions
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 08:35 |
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To be fair Cippolone didn't throw Trump under the bus until Hutchinson just about threw him under the bus. He'd be facing contempt charges with Bannon if she hadn't testified. Another reminder that Hutchinson is still a ghoul like the rest of them
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 08:55 |
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I think it’s fair to say that anyone still close enough to big Don on the 6th that the committee want to talk to them is kind of a garbagy human being. Anyone who even entertained the thought of working under the Trump umbrella after his extremely public and outright racist birther campaign should be shunned from society.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 09:36 |
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What is this, Italy? Taking August off?! Good hearing, but glad I didn't stay up for it. No berders or choking stories. Sad!
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 12:54 |
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I know it's not unusual for Cheney to call out the folks who won't testify, but I also wonder if her closing statement was quite that strong on praising all the women who came forward (and making fun of the old men who won't) before the news of that "thots and hoes" guy whining about both his female colleagues and how he was too young to afford a lawyer to fight the subpoena.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 13:03 |
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Cheney, for whoever she was, is an inspiration in this committee. I know she's done bad poo poo as a politician, they all have, but hell if this doesn't look like a competent government all of a sudden. gently caress Liz Cheney. She voted with Trump like 93% of the time. She is a goddamn ghoul like all the rest of them. This is the bare loving minimum she (and the rest of the GOP) should be doing. To this day the GOP continues to obstruct and prevent meaningful change from occurring while simultaneously the Supreme Court strips us off our rights.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 13:07 |
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SalTheBard posted:gently caress Liz Cheney. She voted with Trump like 93% of the time. She is a goddamn ghoul like all the rest of them. This is the bare loving minimum she (and the rest of the GOP) should be doing. Yeah, maybe there's some small ounce of doing the right thing buried somewhere in her, but this is almost all revenge for her. She was probably pissed at having to run from the bloodthirsty mob, and thought everyone was with her to take down Trump. She tried to lead the charge in the house, but the republican cowards took a step back and metaphorically looked away whistling after they had 2 days to think about it. She was ousted from leadership, about to get primaried out, so now she wants to burn them all. She doesn't give a gently caress about this happening right before the election, they hung her out to dry and now she wants revenge on everyone, making this as bad for the gop as possible.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 13:12 |
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deety posted:I know it's not unusual for Cheney to call out the folks who won't testify, but I also wonder if her closing statement was quite that strong on praising all the women who came forward (and making fun of the old men who won't) before the news of that "thots and hoes" guy whining about both his female colleagues and how he was too young to afford a lawyer to fight the subpoena. No, she made an almost identical statement I think 2 weeks ago at a talk she did at the reagan foundation. That said, she was clearly referring to Hutchinson in that speech who was already receiving threats and harassment. so no, it's not a response to that specific guy, but yeah it's basically a response to people being horrible to hutchinson. Also worth noting that pretty much the entirety of the 1/6 coup organizers were men, outside of kraken lady.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 13:26 |
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Haven't watched the whole thing yet but LOL at the committee playing actual recorded audio/video segments and "this is all
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 13:34 |
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The funny thing about “this is all heresy” is that no one in the GOP sphere would consider that a bad statement. “Yeah they’re attacking God Emperor Trump, ofc it’s heresy!”
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 13:58 |
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Rigel posted:Yeah, maybe there's some small ounce of doing the right thing buried somewhere in her, but this is almost all revenge for her. She was probably pissed at having to run from the bloodthirsty mob, and thought everyone was with her to take down Trump. She tried to lead the charge in the house, but the republican cowards took a step back and metaphorically looked away whistling after they had 2 days to think about it. She was ousted from leadership, about to get primaried out, so now she wants to burn them all. She doesn't give a gently caress about this happening right before the election, they hung her out to dry and now she wants revenge on everyone, making this as bad for the gop as possible. Absolutely, and she and kinzinger are smart enough to realize that they will now be fondly remembered at least for this by history who will view as heroes who stood up against their party and for America as a whole.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:01 |
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So that’s it, right? No more hearings and in about a month or two people are going to collectively forget about before midterms?
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:02 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:So that’s it, right? No more hearings and in about a month or two people are going to collectively forget about before midterms? No they said there will be more hearings in September.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:07 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:So that’s it, right? No more hearings and in about a month or two people are going to collectively forget about before midterms? No.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:07 |
Ornato, Engel, and the driver have all now retained private counsel.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:19 |
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Amazing that they hadn't previously really
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:21 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:So that’s it, right? No more hearings and in about a month or two people are going to collectively forget about before midterms? No it's just summer vacation, they're taking a month off from protecting our democracy
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:25 |
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VitalSigns posted:No it's just summer vacation, they're taking a month off from protecting our democracy And re-election campaigning. Cheney is about to be primaried and she’s got 3 weeks to turn things around. She likely won’t.What are the odds she runs as an independent?
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:40 |
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Automatic Slim posted:And re-election campaigning. Cheney's done politically. If she runs as an independent she's just as likely to pull from decorum poisoned old conservadems as she is from Republicans and her singular goal in life right now is to burn the Republican Party to the ground so she and her ilk can rebuild it from the ashes in her own image.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 14:52 |
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Oracle posted:Cheney's done politically. If she runs as an independent she's just as likely to pull from decorum poisoned old conservadems as she is from Republicans and her singular goal in life right now is to burn the Republican Party to the ground so she and her ilk can rebuild it from the ashes in her own image. Probably.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 15:03 |
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I don't care what happens to Liz Cheney and just because the Overton Window has moved so far to the right that now republicans get extra credit for not overthrowing democracy. It doesn't mean I should give a poo poo about her or pretend she doesn't loving suck. She'll parlay this into a career going on CNN and MSNBC as a token conservative or something. Maybe write a book. If she had any loving sense of decency, she'd take a moment to realize just how much her party represents the party of pitchforks and torches who see any progress as a Frankenstein monster but she won't. This is just where she draws the line personally. She'll be fine.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 15:08 |
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Tayter Swift posted:I don't know if it was made explicit, but the mob left the Capitol as soon as he told them to go home, only because he told them. Three hours of rioting he provably could have stopped at any time.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 15:28 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It was made explicit. Multiple bits of footage of rioters saying "He told us to go home". Also that he only told them to go home when it was clear the coup attempt had failed. He wanted it to keep going as long as there was a chance they might actually kill Mike Pence and a bunch of Congress people.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 15:35 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It was made explicit. Multiple bits of footage of rioters saying "He told us to go home". Including video of QAnon Shaman literally going "I AM HERE TO DELIVER THE PRESIDENT'S MESSAGE" followed by him showing everyone the video
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 15:39 |
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By setpember, trump will already be running for president, so he'll be doing rallies and calling more attention to the comittee. Did they happen to say how mamy hearings they'd have in September? I imagine they might play that by ear; who knows what comes out between now and then.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 15:40 |
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Meatball posted:By setpember, trump will already be running for president, so he'll be doing rallies and calling more attention to the comittee. no idea. probably at least 3. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:I figured y'all wanted the whole thread : Chariots of Fire theme was the exact music playing in my head before I unmuted no joke.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 16:45 |
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By the time September rolls around, Cheney will have been primaried and Trump probably will have released a gloating statement and had a few smug speeches at rallies all claiming responsibility for ending her career, so she'll probably not be holding anything back if there's anything they learn which could hurt Trump and the GOP in September and October.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 16:45 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:So that’s it, right? No more hearings and in about a month or two people are going to collectively forget about before midterms? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 17:04 |
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I get it, but at the same time, without Cheney and Kinzinger this committee never gets off the ground. We don't see the evidence on live tv. We never truly understand Trump's culpability on record. And the democracy is lost at the next election. Rip and tear up Republicans forever, including those playing hero now, but also understand that without them we've completely lost everything.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 17:22 |
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I get it, but at the same time, without Cheney and Kinzinger this committee never gets off the ground. We don't see the evidence on live tv. We never truly understand Trump's culpability on record. And the democracy is lost at the next election. This. Basically just realize that a lot of these ghouls want to go back to the quiet W era shittyness but for now they are stabbing the chuds so that makes them “ allies” for now. I prefer the vengeful ghouls like Cheney and hurt “idealist” ghouls like kinzinger throwing the big punches if it gets normies and rinos mad at chuds. gently caress em all obviously but at least they are doing the right thing even if for wrong reasons.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 17:53 |
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I would like that the people on the committee remain members of congress over their potential replacements so I would prefer that they go off and spend August campaigning WHILE THEIR STAFF CONTINUES TO WORK. JFC people, get a grip.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 18:34 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:the quiet W era shittyness Lol. I'm you're right but it's awful that we're at that point.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 18:35 |
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Meatball posted:By setpember, trump will already be running for president, so he'll be doing rallies and calling more attention to the comittee. Can't wait to hear all of those oh so clever and not at all juvenile new nicknames! Kale posted:Chariots of Fire theme was the exact music playing in my head before I unmuted no joke. "Rocky" for me
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 18:39 |
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is there any evidence yet in polling or whatever that anybody but Dems are watching or care about this stuff at all?
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 18:40 |
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Tatsuta Age posted:is there any evidence yet in polling or whatever that anybody but Dems are watching or care about this stuff at all? It is not really possible to separate the impact of this committee from the impact of Roe v Wade. Something is making the polls shift significantly away from a GOP blowout, and its probably just a little bit of everything.
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# ? Jul 22, 2022 18:45 |
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6 in 10 Americans say they are paying at least some attention to the Jan 6 hearings. 80% of Dems, 40% of Republicans. People who only believe what they hear on Fox News are never going to be swayed by anything else. A respectable chunk of people who call themselves Republicans are paying attention. What non-American historians write about the coup attempt will be based on much more data. American historians? Well, depends on who wins the next coup, huh? Re W: I would never have believed you if you'd told me pre-2015 that George W. Bush wouldn't be the worst President in my lifetime. And I've lived from JFK onward. (well, technically, Eisenhower, but I was barely born.)
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