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Always use the holodeck with a safeword agreed upon beforehand between you and the computer
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Jul 21, 2022 17:48
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Look, if you took away the ability of technology to somehow malfunction, there goes like 60% of Star Trek plots. I guess in TNG they mostly were so overawed by just the sheer concept of the holodeck they didn't really bother thinking much about it past the base concept. I'm not sure if even 80s audiences were impressed by the idea, it seems pretty late in the development of sci-fi. The episode where Ryker and Picard are just hanging out in a holo jazz bar and Ryker somehow falls deeply in love with a holo-woman because she doesn't hate his trombone playing is boring as hell, but I think it may be the first holodeck-central episode.
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Jul 21, 2022 18:25
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pixaal posted:Orville uses their holodeck in a pretty good way. Mostly nightclubs and sex. Lots of gay sex. Bortus's porn lagoon is one of the funniest things I've seen.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:52
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Asterite34 posted:Always use the holodeck with a safeword agreed upon beforehand between you and the computer
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Jul 22, 2022 10:29
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DS9 has better holodeck eps because they actually explore the concepts of interactive fiction and how people use and react to it. Also they have a James Bond parody so good MGM threatened them.
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Jul 22, 2022 12:50
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TNG seemed to have tried to use the holodeck as more a time machine and do a classic Doctor Who historical series. Only StarTrek isn't built for that at all and it's a silly use of the tech to Prime Directive a simulation.
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Jul 22, 2022 13:14
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TNG suffers from thinking TOS planet of hats episodes were unrealistic and bad scifi while still really wanting to have planet of hats episodes. The holodeck serves as an awkward compromise.
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Jul 22, 2022 15:49
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W.T. Fits posted:Yeah, in recent years, the propensity of Federation technology to default to "fail deadly" instead of "fail safe" has really been a massive I think this really took off with Deep Space Nine. Before then we generally didn't see bridge consoles explode or even spark unless the ship was really getting the poo poo kicked out of it (which is fine for me as a visual dramatic shorthand), but then at some point they basically decided "hey let's just constantly shake the ship and shoot off pyrotechnics every time the ship is hit" which, yeah, I'm not a fan of either.
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Jul 22, 2022 16:41
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SlothfulCobra posted:The holodeck would've been fine if the writers had any self-control about the holodeck randomly overcoming all limits to keep unexpectedly creating a fully sentient holograms. As with a lot of Trek tech if they wanted consistency then they should have set out the limitations first and then worked the stories around that. Instead they let the writers do whatever they wanted for their episode and tried to justify it later.
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Jul 25, 2022 02:39
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Hillary 2024 posted:As with a lot of Trek tech if they wanted consistency then they should have set out the limitations first and then worked the stories around that. Instead they let the writers do whatever they wanted for their episode and tried to justify it later. Wouldn't have been a problem if the viewing conceit that existed well into the 2000s had persisted, where you just see episodes individually with only a vague impression of the ultimate logic. Of course trekkies were obsessive nerds memorizing and collating episode details before binge watching went mainstream, making "trekkies" the actual problem and therefore the worst tech.
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Jul 25, 2022 02:52
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The very fact that you can make holodeck characters self-aware and fearful of what happens when the simulation stops is beyond hosed up. Also, being able to create super Moriarty by just gong "computer, create a character who is very very smart". Data was supposed to be a wonder of science in that he was a true artificial person and, whoops, turns out you can make them by the dozen down in the holodeck. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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Jul 25, 2022 03:17
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Megillah Gorilla posted:The very fact that you can make holodeck characters self-aware and fearful of what happens then the simulation stops is beyond hosed up.
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Jul 25, 2022 04:20
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Also, you can just make anyone - including bridge crew and your commanding officers - and there are no restrictions on what the holodeck lets you do to them? Yeah, like that isn't going to be immediately used in the most hosed up way possible. "Computer, load program Femme Riker Train"
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Jul 25, 2022 04:35
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Also, you can just make anyone - including bridge crew and your commanding officers - and there are no restrictions on what the holodeck lets you do to them? I think you mean Riker's Greatest Teabaggings
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Jul 25, 2022 04:57
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 The Stealth Pistol from Deus Ex. Looks like a staple gun and does about as much damage as one. I always left it behind and went with the tranq crossbow/prod for stealth KOs.
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Jul 25, 2022 13:15
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The bullpup design always struck me as a weird choice for a pistol. Though I guess they were going for a Seburo look with it.
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Jul 25, 2022 14:06
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Drinkslinger posted:
Starting rifle in xcom Nightmare version is if you're playing water XCOM and get a land mission before you get poo poo that's better than harpoon guns
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Rubix Squid posted:The bullpup design always struck me as a weird choice for a pistol. Though I guess they were going for a Seburo look with it. Isn’t that the opposite of bullpup? Bullpup guns have the magazine behind the trigger e: oh, I guess that’s facing left and not right. But anyway, modern pistols are normally in a bullpup configuration, so yeah, that’s pretty ridiculous
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Jul 25, 2022 17:48
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Zoran posted:Isn’t that the opposite of bullpup? Bullpup guns have the magazine behind the trigger Bullpups are specifically guns that have the firing grip in front of the chamber. So modern pistols are not bullpups since the firing chamber is directly above the grip.
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Jul 25, 2022 17:55
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Rubix Squid posted:The bullpup design always struck me as a weird choice for a pistol. Though I guess they were going for a Seburo look with it.
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Jul 25, 2022 19:13
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Even as a youth I knew to throw away the stealth pistol and put a silencer on the regular pistol, if the need arose. The smart money was putting a silencer on the assault rifle, anyway.
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Jul 25, 2022 20:10
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Worf posted:Starting rifle in xcom The starting rifle in X-Com sucked, but it was usable against Sectoids and Floaters, which was usually enough to cover the first month as long as you brought a heavy weapons trooper for the terror units or rushed laser pistols. Not great, but not bottom tier. The harpoon gun, though, that one's a candidate. Slower firing than the X-Com 1 rifle, almost no ammunition, and enemies were more resistant to it. You were better off just getting the gas cannon and loading it up with high-ex. Also, most of the big guns couldn't be used on land. There was a lot of garbage in Terror from the Deep.
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Still haven't completed it because of the wonky arsenal and 1 tile monster closets. The atmosphere is
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imperiusdamian posted:Absoluute worst? Star Trek having NO loving surge protectors on the bridge. Seriously, consoles explode in showers of sparks every time someone glares at a Fed ship? That was an agreement with the Tellarites, their love of over-dramatic arguing meant they wanted massive explosions taking people out during violent conflicts as well. So it was written into the Federation constitution along with the right of Vulcans to act snooty without being called out for the illogic of that, Andorrans calling everybody pink skins being exempted from hate speech laws, and humans to screw everything that moves without any regard for STD risk. grassy gnoll posted:Even as a youth I knew to throw away the stealth pistol and put a silencer on the regular pistol, if the need arose. The smart money was putting a silencer on the assault rifle, anyway. Could you silence the assault rifle? Thought it was just the sniper rifle (which yeah, was the best candidate for one).
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Jul 26, 2022 14:05
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Drinkslinger posted:
Amateur Pros use the GEP Gun for stealth takedowns.
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Jul 26, 2022 23:01
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GEP gun? More like ONLY gun
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Defiance Industries posted:GEP gun? More like ONLY gun And for the rare thing the GEP couldn't solve, well that's why the rest of the inventory was filled with LAM's. Good old destruction Jesus, boy did he know the best way to save the world was by blowing most of it up.
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Jul 27, 2022 00:11
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stick with the prod. prod with the prod. just in case though, we're police
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my favorite detail about deus ex heavy weapons is that the flamethrower counts as silent takedowns my least favorite is the experience of using the plasma gun
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Tulip posted:my favorite detail about deus ex heavy weapons is that the flamethrower counts as silent takedowns Goon 1: hey why is goon 3 screaming and suddenly on fire? Goon 2: I dunno, they're new, possibly just something they do, didn't hear any weapons fire though so not our problem. Tulip posted:my least favorite is the experience of using the plasma gun I've heard some people like the plasma gun, seemed to just be really large and just not that great.
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Jul 27, 2022 02:29
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All the dudes screamed exactly the same in Deus Ex. Making using the prod even sillier. That audio file is burned into my memory. What about the swim bionics in Deus Ex. Would they count as garbage tech simply by never being used?
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Ritz On Toppa Ritz posted:What about the swim bionics in Deus Ex. Would they count as garbage tech simply by never being used? I mean they technically did do what they were meant to do quite well, but yeah it often felt like giving scuba gear to someone wandering in a desert.
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Ritz On Toppa Ritz posted:All the dudes screamed exactly the same in Deus Ex. Making using the prod even sillier. That audio file is burned into my memory. If you mean the swim skill it's actually preferred skill of speedrunners lol dr_rat posted:Goon 1: hey why is goon 3 screaming and suddenly on fire? 1) yes lol its very funny 2) yeah that's basically the gist of it, it's just very disappointing and with a lot of build up. The GEP gun you just ask for and it rules!
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Jul 27, 2022 02:54
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Also, you can just make anyone - including bridge crew and your commanding officers - and there are no restrictions on what the holodeck lets you do to them? I'm more of a Beverly man myself 
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Jul 27, 2022 04:45
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The GEP gun takedown is always the most silent takedown for eliminating Manderly But just in case, we're police
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Defiance Industries posted:GEP gun? More like ONLY gun
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https://twitter.com/FedeItaliano76/status/1558874353349103617 This seems like it would pretty awkward.
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liir spotted
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On the whole Star Trek bridge consoles exploding thing. If you part attention to the endless technobabble, they mention pay of their power delivery system is EPS conduits. Energized Plasma System. My theory has always been that power delivery on a Federation starship is basically the same setup as a building that uses steam for heat, or how the catapults on a Nimitz class aircraft carrier work. If anything, they're not depicted as being as lethal as they should be. Also, this would mean Star Trek is technically steampunk. 
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On the subject of the holodeck, I liked the VOY episode that revealed Tuvok had created a custom simulation where he could murder Neelix with impunity as a form of stress relief. Honestly, I'd do the exact same thing in that situation.
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