Potato Salad posted:

M365 can't comply why exactly?

Truga posted:

no, they went back to microsoft because microsoft lobbied the new mayor's party with a couple dozen million dollars (which they immediately made back by selling them brand new licenses)

it was quite funny too, just as the users got used to the new workflow and costs started to go down after the migrations ended, they went back to microsoft, and of course costs rocketed up again for a few years as they started migrating back

go play outside Skyler posted:

it has (almost) nothing to do with trying to protect some obscure european companies. sure maybe there's a bit of that - but don't go and tell me the us aren't doing that every single day to protect their oil, automobile or tech conglomerates.

go play outside Skyler posted:

actually gdpr is the best thing to ever happen to european consumers.

why would americans be the only ones to impose extremely anti competitive and us-centric laws with a global reach? thinking about ITAR and cryptography export laws for example.

gdpr has brought good business in europe, has made the faang reconsider their awful data practices, and has also made my employer not gently caress around with data they don't need. it's perfect in every way. everyone has the right to own their data and to ask corps to be responsible with it.

it has (almost) nothing to do with trying to protect some obscure european companies. sure maybe there's a bit of that - but don't go and tell me the us aren't doing that every single day to protect their oil, automobile or tech conglomerates.

sb hermit posted:

I was going to blame the gdpr for all the goddamn cookie banners but I can't ignore the fact that every drat corporate website pops up a drat modal to ask you to sign up for the newsletter.

I'm already logged in and I already refused! Stop asking me!

There needs to be a new gdpr law that forbids cookie selection banners and forbids websites from asking you to sign up for a newsletter. And while they're at it, ban all video ads and all animated ads and impose s hefty fine if opt-out systems for e-mail do not work.

sb hermit posted:

I was going to blame the gdpr for all the goddamn cookie banners but I can't ignore the fact that every drat corporate website pops up a drat modal to ask you to sign up for the newsletter.

I'm already logged in and I already refused! Stop asking me!

There needs to be a new gdpr law that forbids cookie selection banners and forbids websites from asking you to sign up for a newsletter. And while they're at it, ban all video ads and all animated ads and impose s hefty fine if opt-out systems for e-mail do not work.

go play outside Skyler posted:

cookie law != gdpr

the cookie law was dumb as hell and could be solved a million other ways than with those drat banners

Wild EEPROM posted:

the worst cookie ones are the "choose the cookies you want" with some greyed out option for "mandatory" like just gently caress right off there is no such thing as a required cookie.

Wild EEPROM posted:

heres a hint, if you have to obfuscate something because people keep blocking it, you should really reconsider what you are doing

Wild EEPROM posted:

heres a hint, if you have to obfuscate something because people keep blocking it, you should really reconsider what you are doing

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i love gdpr, almost everyone angry about it has a take along the lines of "omg why would you attack the wonders of modern it infrastructure, you'll be back in the dark ages before everything was controlled by two corporations", which is: a) dumb; and; b) wrong, microsoft will fix this (and aws will follow to get to bid for these things) and we'll all be better off because they do.

the post suggesting that pure eu instances are unlikely is particularly weird: as a customer i already trust that the availability zones are almost entirely separate, and it seems perfectly reasonable and desirable that instances where your data is moved into availability zones you've never touched be enumerated. not to mention when your data is moved off of azure entirely for some reason.

SlowBloke posted:

My vent yesterday was due to working in the public sector for an awful long time and knowing that a similar document will end up with idiots in the c-suite reading it as "WE MUST RUN AWAY FROM MICROSOFT TO GOOGLE" or even better "WE MUST MOVE ALL OUR WORKLOADS BACK ON-PREMISE CAUSE THE CLOUD CANNOT BE EVER GDPR COMPLIANT REGARDLESS OF THE LAWS REQUIRING ALL WORKLOADS MOVED TO CLOUD". I could write books about hundreds of similar events (like google analytics becoming illegal without any clear legal document and being required to move to a national matomo instance that will show data from three months back since it cannot handle all the data processing) but it would pretty much dox me.

NFX posted:

a very amusing part of gdpr is clicking a link to some local american newspaper and getting a geoblock message because they don't just sell as much data as they can, they throw it around like confetti. the best ones also have/had a http 451 error because this is clearly censorship!

SlowBloke posted:

My vent yesterday was due to working in the public sector for an awful long time and knowing that a similar document will end up with idiots in the c-suite reading it as "WE MUST RUN AWAY FROM MICROSOFT TO GOOGLE" or even better "WE MUST MOVE ALL OUR WORKLOADS BACK ON-PREMISE CAUSE THE CLOUD CANNOT BE EVER GDPR COMPLIANT REGARDLESS OF THE LAWS REQUIRING ALL WORKLOADS MOVED TO CLOUD". I could write books about hundreds of similar events (like google analytics becoming illegal without any clear legal document and being required to move to a national matomo instance that will show data from three months back since it cannot handle all the data processing) but it would pretty much dox me.

Wild EEPROM posted:

the worst cookie ones are the "choose the cookies you want" with some greyed out option for "mandatory" like just gently caress right off there is no such thing as a required cookie.

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

the funniest ones are sites that refuse to render because cookies aren't on, gotta love web 2.0 frameworks

~Coxy posted:

on-premises

NFX posted:

a very amusing part of gdpr is clicking a link to some local american newspaper and getting a geoblock message because they don't just sell as much data as they can, they throw it around like confetti. the best ones also have/had a http 451 error because this is clearly censorship!

lousy hat posted:

i worked for a national (but pretty small) US magazine when gdpr was going into effect and no one in our leadership knew anything about it. absolutely no prep or plan for it, no master list of our data partners or their gdpr compliance stuff. something like the day before it started, i had to hack up some dumb geolocation “sorry no can use website” thing for anyone in the european economic area because “we have to do something” and no one knew what that was.

fortunately we got bought by an EU company not long after and they completely absorbed the website along with everything else and then I left and never had to deal with it again

e: this is mostly to say that a lot of smaller us media/websites don’t know poo poo about tech policy (or tech tbh)

rjmccall posted:

Achmed Jones posted:

that's my read as well (and parts have been confirmed by previous posts). i also suspect that there was at one time a non-tls endpoint that was turned down long ago, and is how the current android-use api got its name