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Vise the Stompy posted:Wow the anime ending today is playing dirty. Final shot of the episode itself is the future devil and then an ending no anime only watcher could possibly get. I saw that ending and thought "there's no way that manga readers are not going to be loving obnoxious about this in the YouTube comments" edit: drat it
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Read the latest chapter I loving love how insane and stupid everyone is, just total craziness, this lady is absolutely useless, what kind of person thinks going on a two hour monologue about Anemonies is in any way a loving romance option?!!?
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Dec 14, 2022 12:30
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Al-Saqr posted:Read the latest chapter Asa Mitaka, apparently. (The sad thing is, she's still pretty much the sanest character in the main cast.)
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Dec 14, 2022 13:15
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I forget, when did the story first talk about the life cycle of demons [Die on Earth, go to hell. Die in hell, go to Earth]?
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Dec 14, 2022 16:01
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Mulva posted:I forget, when did the story first talk about the life cycle of demons [Die on Earth, go to hell. Die in hell, go to Earth]? Angel telling Aki after the bomb arc. Chapter 53
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Dec 14, 2022 16:06
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Yeah, when he talks about how every Devil in Special Division remembers the sound of the chainsaw engine. Really get a two for one there on lore dumps. Man it's fun to have the anime folks around to take a fresh look and throw wild guesses at what the hell is happening.
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Dec 14, 2022 16:16
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I still think one of the biggest mysteries (unless I just missed something) was what power Makima was using to squish those poeple and all the stipulations it had (saying a name and killing both the target and the speaker, her hand motions, why she only used it on the henchmen). It's absolutely terrifying.
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Eggplant Squire posted:I still think one of the biggest mysteries (unless I just missed something) was what power Makima was using to squish those poeple and all the stipulations it had (saying a name and killing both the target and the speaker, her hand motions, why she only used it on the henchmen). It's absolutely terrifying. It's the Punishment Devil. The manga just puts all the parts to understand that fact pretty far apart.
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Dec 14, 2022 19:55
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chiasaur11 posted:Makima did understand humans pretty well, including Denji, who she played like a kazoo despite not being able to use her powers. She also was aware that she didn't know everything and acted on that, doing things like just asking Denji why he was feeling bad in the early chapters. No, no she did not. Every non-Denji human she interacts with while not using her powers is immediately able to clock that there's something suspicious about her. Hell, even Denji noticed she was kind of "off" from the beginning, but she was hot and he was horny/desperate so he willfully ignored the obvious warning signs he had been picking up on. Makima likes humans, but liking something and understanding something are two very different things. Makima interacting with humanity is like three cats in a trench coat attempting to sneak into a movie theater. The cats think their trench coat disguise makes them look like a normal human person, but every actual human can instantly tell that they're really three cats stacked on top of each other. But here's the thing: The cats also have a hypno ray so they can just mind control any human they see into letting them into whichever movie theater they want. So they cats never fail despite their human disguise being very bad so they never learn how to make a better human disguise because they never experience failure and thus realize that there are areas in which they need to improve.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:No, no she did not. Every non-Denji human she interacts with while not using her powers is immediately able to clock that there's something suspicious about her. Hell, even Denji noticed she was kind of "off" from the beginning, but she was hot and he was horny/desperate so he willfully ignored the obvious warning signs he had been picking up on. Makima likes humans, but liking something and understanding something are two very different things. That's why the Makima/Denji relationship as it is presented to the viewer is so great. Denji's sense of normal is absolutely hosed. We as the viewers can see how bad of an idea it is and how creepy Makima is being, but Denji is so hopeful that it's okay you wish he could get a W even though you know it won't happen. It's a slow moving car crash as he gets wrapped around her finger.
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Donkringel posted:That's why the Makima/Denji relationship as it is presented to the viewer is so great. Denji's sense of normal is absolutely hosed. We as the viewers can see how bad of an idea it is and how creepy Makima is being, but Denji is so hopeful that it's okay you wish he could get a W even though you know it won't happen. It's a slow moving car crash as he gets wrapped around her finger. 'Gets' implies a much slower progression. Makima's got Denji on a leash from chapter 3 on, and that's being generous. The only thing going slow is Denji's growth into a weird-but-rounded human being. And that's one of the most interesting things about how messed up that relationship was. Makima did everything she could to help Denji grow as a person, which, until the reveal, felt very odd with how many red flags she was showing. She was even letting him develop away from her in a lot of ways, with her encouraging him to make friendships and a found family, as opposed to his starting position of just caring about her and Pochita. If you look back, you even see that, until the Gun arc, she was usually encouraging him to think, with her talks about life, love, and movies all being set up to offer Denji room to form his own opinions. (Contrast with his disastrous Asa date, where she was telling him what to think from the jump.) She did Denji more good than anyone except Pochita, and despite her best efforts, she wasn't able to take it all away. As I've said before, Makima is irony central in Chainsaw Man, creating the only person who could kill her by ignoring the only person who could give her the equal relationship she wanted. But then, that sort of self-sabotage does seem to be in her nature. Her treatment of Kishibe includes frequent moves to make him more subordinate, even as she seems to acknowledge that the reason she likes him is that he's someone out of her control. Another reason to be interested in how Denji and Nayuta are getting along, I suppose.
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Dec 14, 2022 22:07
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chiasaur11 posted:Another reason to be interested in how Denji and Nayuta are getting along, I suppose. The worst thing about Chainsaw Man is that there needs to be more Chainsaw Man
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:No, no she did not. Every non-Denji human she interacts with while not using her powers is immediately able to clock that there's something suspicious about her. Hell, even Denji noticed she was kind of "off" from the beginning, but she was hot and he was horny/desperate so he willfully ignored the obvious warning signs he had been picking up on. Makima likes humans, but liking something and understanding something are two very different things.  Donkringel posted:That's why the Makima/Denji relationship as it is presented to the viewer is so great. Denji's sense of normal is absolutely hosed. We as the viewers can see how bad of an idea it is and how creepy Makima is being, but Denji is so hopeful that it's okay you wish he could get a W even though you know it won't happen. It's a slow moving car crash as he gets wrapped around her finger.  chiasaur11 posted:'Gets' implies a much slower progression.
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chiasaur11 posted:Makima's got Denji on a leash from chapter 3 on, and that's being generous. Power got Denji on a leash few hours after they met. Recognizing Denji's wants and exploiting them to manipulate him is bar so low, it's buried underground. (And Asa still somehow managed to screw it up.  )
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Dec 14, 2022 22:25
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Terper posted:The worst thing about Chainsaw Man is that there needs to be more Chainsaw Man We're up to at least two.
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Dec 14, 2022 22:27
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LostRook posted:We're up to at least two. Possibly three. We know there's at least two because one killed yuko while Denji was asleep on his pile dogs, and we also know the head of the Devil hunting club is claiming to be chainsaw man, but we don't know if the Chainsaw Man who killed Yuko is also the head of the Devil hunting club or if they're a separate different Chainsaw Man.
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Dec 14, 2022 22:42
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Maybe I'm Chainsaw Man!
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Eggplant Squire posted:I still think one of the biggest mysteries (unless I just missed something) was what power Makima was using to squish those poeple and all the stipulations it had (saying a name and killing both the target and the speaker, her hand motions, why she only used it on the henchmen). It's absolutely terrifying. She was using Tendo's contract with the punishment devil, and having those prisoners give their lives to take the lives of others.
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Terper posted:The worst thing about Chainsaw Man is that there needs to be more Chainsaw Man I'm just glad Fujimoto put a little shot of Nayuta with Denji a couple chapters ago. I still feel like he's hiding something by not showing more, but knowing that Denji's got at least one thing going right in his non-Chainsaw life is reassuring. He's still worse off than he's been since chapter 1 in some ways, but "Denji has to make money for his family on top of school and Chainsaw-ing, so he's perpetually exhausted" is much better than "Denji's got nothing except Chainsawing."
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Terper posted:Maybe I'm Chainsaw Man! Finale of the series is a reenactment of the end of Spartacus only it’s Denji’s painstakingly planned public reveal of his identity being ruined.
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....Oh god, one of the fakes will absolutely reveal themselves as a Chainsaw Man before Denji has a chance to and hog all the glory.
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Dec 14, 2022 23:09
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Lt. Lizard posted:....Oh god, one of the fakes will absolutely reveal themselves as a Chainsaw Man before Denji has a chance to and hog all the glory. Denji will 100%run and go fight that person ASAP
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We're going to get Smart Chainsaw Man who uses his chains to swing around like Beam was suggesting and everyone is going to hate him.
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Thanks I totally missed the punishment connection.
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Electric Phantasm posted:We're going to get Smart Chainsaw Man who uses his chains to swing around like Beam was suggesting and everyone is going to hate him. Yeah, but will they fight with absolute psychotic abandon?
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Dec 15, 2022 17:40
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There is Chainsaw Man that is brutally cunning and there is Chainsaw Man that is cunningly brutal.
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He is more chainsaw than man, now...
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SirKibbles posted:Denji will 100%run and go fight that person ASAP Somehow this results in Denji being labeled as the imposter Chainsaw Man.
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Dec 15, 2022 20:17
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Imposter chainsaw man is somehow linked to Yoshida and I must know how.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Imposter chainsaw man is somehow linked to Yoshida and I must know how. Yeah, he wasn't shown sleeping when fake Chainsaw man killed Yuko, so he could BE fake chainsaw man somehow. No idea how or why he'd be doing something like that though.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Yeah, he wasn't shown sleeping when fake Chainsaw man killed Yuko, so he could BE fake chainsaw man somehow. No idea how or why he'd be doing something like that though. I can't let Denji out himself as Chainsaw Man, so I'll out myself as Chainsaw Man! Then nobody will believe him!!
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All he said is he works for “an organization” and that he just started going to school there. Seems equally likely he is truly unaware of the imposter, or the imposters existence is being monitored.
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An organization that specifically wants to keep Denji happy which to me says they don't want the full Pochita version of Chainsaw Man running around randomly decapitating people and generally being unstoppable again
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Blockhouse posted:An organization that specifically wants to keep Denji happy which to me says they don't want the full Pochita version of Chainsaw Man running around randomly decapitating people and generally being unstoppable again They want to keep Denji from revealing his identity. I'm not so sure on the happy, from the fact he still needs to scam homeless people for money.
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https://twitter.com/dokuodoku/status/1603351476616966144?s=46&t=QwAIONdiRnzU85a4hk7yOQ
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chiasaur11 posted:They want to keep Denji from revealing his identity. I'm not so sure on the happy, from the fact he still needs to scam homeless people for money. I don't have a sub so I can't go back and check but I thought specifically they wanted to keep him from revealing his identity because they want him to have a quiet life
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He said they just want him to live a peaceful life and don't want him to turn into Chainsaw Man at all. Hooking him up with Asa was an attempt to remove his only stated reason for hunting demons. It's rather chicken and egg and completely bullshit.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Imposter chainsaw man is somehow linked to Yoshida and I must know how. fake chainsaw made by octopus devil. no teeth just a bunch of tiny little tentacles spinning very fast and slapping you in the face
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So here's a weird question that I'm probably going to have to re-read the series to get a satisfying answer to any time soon: did the lady with the snake demon contract actually die? I can't remember how that fight went, but watching the anime I've only now noticed that her eyes are red and distinctly not human looking which is probably just the snake theme going on; but still.
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Nuebot posted:So here's a weird question that I'm probably going to have to re-read the series to get a satisfying answer to any time soon: did the lady with the snake demon contract actually die? I can't remember how that fight went, but watching the anime I've only now noticed that her eyes are red and distinctly not human looking which is probably just the snake theme going on; but still. Snake ate her after she got captured.
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