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Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Calle Jarnkrok is back, and also claims to have hurt his groin back in October but continued to play (poorly) for over a month for… reasons

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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Blackbelt Bobman posted:

(I love that Phil Kessel still hasn’t learned how to back check lol)
It's not that he's lazy. It's that he just doesn't care.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Koopa Kid posted:

Calle Jarnkrok is back, and also claims to have hurt his groin back in October but continued to play (poorly) for over a month for… reasons

Should I be worried that his play was mostly indistinguishable from a healthy Kerfoot?

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



eXXon posted:

Should I be worried that his play was mostly indistinguishable from a healthy Kerfoot?

I mean that tracks so it’s really a matter of expectations, although given the Leafs medical staff there’s a non-zero chance that Kerfoot has been playing through some sort of hands-related condition all year as well

Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007

Clutch Cargo wishes they had Tractor.

Pungry posted:

The most frustrating thing about this year is that Panthers' management already expected it to be a step back and all these small injuries keeping key players out of big games gives them further excuses to just run it back the next year with little change. "Oh, Barkov was out against the Bruins and it was Spencer Knight's first game back off of two weeks of sickness, of course they got thumped", "oh Duclair was out for 3 months, no wonder they had to sign Eric Staal", "oh they're putting $14.5 million against the cap for goaltending with Bob and Knight and were expecting the salary cap to go up for next year, of course they can't expect to compete" etc etc etc. Just super frustrating that you can list any number of excuses for why this year is not working anywhere near as well as last year without considering that this dumbass culture change of hiring Paul Maurice and trying to emulate the Lightning is the actual problem.

Wait. They did what?

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Eric the Mauve posted:

It's not that he's lazy. It's that he just doesn't care.

Every night you backcheck we’ll pay your greens fees for a day and there will be a hot dog cart that will follow you around.

Granted someone probably already tried this, but it’s worth a shot.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Pittsburgh solved that issue by having Phil play with 2 players that did all the back checking for him.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


back checking is for lame-os go score a god drat hockey goal

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

NJ does need to win tonight or else people will start saying "told you so" about them not actually being good and those people are stupid. But please win tonight to keep the division lead

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Eric the Mauve posted:

It's not that he's lazy. It's that he just doesn't care.

I know, it owns.

Also,

https://twitter.com/dirtbagqueer/status/1605289352157974536?s=46&t=7GyGKP09ZJ18UUM-hU2BtQ

More Tage content.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Kessel was the second defender on the puck anyways. Sure he did nothing to help out (I get the feeling he was bracing for a shot block) but there were three teammates on the ice slower than him.

So his backcheck is fine. :colbert:

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

xzzy posted:

Kessel was the second defender on the puck anyways. Sure he did nothing to help out (I get the feeling he was bracing for a shot block) but there were three teammates on the ice slower than him.

So his backcheck is fine. :colbert:

Or he’s slow getting up the ice.

Honestly, that goal isn’t on Phil anyway. Hague takes himself out of the play completely by sliding instead of taking any sort of line toward the puck. Not to mention the size mismatch. Sliding is fine sometimes, but this one was just dumb.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




fawning deference posted:

NJ does need to win tonight or else people will start saying "told you so" about them not actually being good and those people are stupid. But please win tonight to keep the division lead

I want them to go on a losing streak equal to their earlier winning streak.

Because I love that kind of goofy poo poo (when its not my team).

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I've reached the point in the season where things seem to be humming along nicely for the Stars and while I'm not so dumb to think it'll translate to postseason success, I've really not got a ton to complain about aside from needing more scoring from the third/fourth lines.


This is all new to me--I don't like this feeling.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

12 game skid incoming....




But yeah, it's weird to feel this kind of optimism about the team. DeBoer might only be good for a year or two, but baby I'm here for it while the ride is good! Robo is perfect.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
Having Dellandrea and Johnston turn out to be good to great middle 6 forwards in effectively their rookie seasons was a huge boost and the team's good luck in finishing + goaltender performance + having basically 0 injuries has been enough to cover for a mediocre to bad defense core.

if the Stars could get 1 good top 4 defenseman that can contribute on the power play it would be such a shot in the arm for the team and it would elevate them to the status of contenders in my opinion.

DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

HAHA! WOOOOOOO WOOO!
Fun Shoe

Shinjobi posted:

I've reached the point in the season where things seem to be humming along nicely for the Stars and while I'm not so dumb to think it'll translate to postseason success, I've really not got a ton to complain about aside from needing more scoring from the third/fourth lines.


This is all new to me--I don't like this feeling.

i mean, they have a ton to like about them this year. best line in hockey, good size, good mix of veterans playing well, good young contributors, a goalie capable of stealing games. if they’re healthy, I think another top nine veteran could be good—they should be in on Kane. Not sure they’re going to be able to upgrade on defense at the deadline, but Nils seems like he’s been a great pickup for them. They could just rent Klingberg if they have any injuries lol. They also have a lot of guys with recent Cup finals experience.

I personally tend to rank pretty high the importance of having a really great end-game five man unit that can close out a game or catch up to it. Their top fix/six guys is pretty nasty. That’ll help a ton. I think they need one more guy ahead of Seguin to out out there in six man situations—Robertson/Hintz/Pavelski/Miro/Benn/Kane sounds better than having Seguin out there imo.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Starsfan posted:

Having Dellandrea and Johnston turn out to be good to great middle 6 forwards in effectively their rookie seasons was a huge boost and the team's good luck in finishing + goaltender performance + having basically 0 injuries has been enough to cover for a mediocre to bad defense core.

if the Stars could get 1 good top 4 defenseman that can contribute on the power play it would be such a shot in the arm for the team and it would elevate them to the status of contenders in my opinion.

So like a John Klingberg type :p

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

rex rabidorum vires posted:

So like a John Klingberg type :p

We tried. He bet on Anaheim.







Lol

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

rex rabidorum vires posted:

So like a John Klingberg type :p

well he gets savaged at 5 on 5 play so it would be renting another Ryan Suter but with upgraded performance on the 2nd PP unit.. I don't think I could stomach having those two out there for roughly 20 minutes a night each.


DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

i mean, they have a ton to like about them this year. best line in hockey, good size, good mix of veterans playing well, good young contributors, a goalie capable of stealing games. if they’re healthy, I think another top nine veteran could be good—they should be in on Kane. Not sure they’re going to be able to upgrade on defense at the deadline, but Nils seems like he’s been a great pickup for them. They could just rent Klingberg if they have any injuries lol. They also have a lot of guys with recent Cup finals experience.

I personally tend to rank pretty high the importance of having a really great end-game five man unit that can close out a game or catch up to it. Their top fix/six guys is pretty nasty. That’ll help a ton. I think they need one more guy ahead of Seguin to out out there in six man situations—Robertson/Hintz/Pavelski/Miro/Benn/Kane sounds better than having Seguin out there imo.

Kane likewise I think is pretty washed at this point and I don't care for paying what the Stars would need to pay to grab a guy who is almost a PP specialist at this point in his career. I was very happy it didn't happen when it was rumored in the off-season and I hope the asking price remains too high at the trade deadline. I would like to believe the Stars' best years are ahead of them and I don't like the idea of trading near to ready NHL prospects for rentals.

**Nils Lundkvist has been really good at 5v5 for the Stars this year, he's a solid transition defender and better than expected when he's having to go into the corners and compete with the more physical and imposing wingers. He's had some games this year with Heiskanen on the top pairing where he's really impressed and it looks like the Stars potentially have a top pairing combination that can work in future years. Unfortunately his presence on the PP has been less impactful, partially because the 2nd PP unit has been a mess in general and partly because DeBoer keeps yanking him off of there to give Ryan Suter more minutes. I hope that he can get more of those minutes in the future but for this season it looks like if there's going to be an upgrade to the point man position for that 2nd PP unit it's going to come externally.

Starsfan fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Dec 20, 2022

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Mike_V posted:

God how bad are the Canucks? Blown out by the Blues at home

They're terrible but score just enough to mask a couple of their horrendous flaws and keep them out of the Bedard lottery. Aka the uniquely Canuck way to be terrible.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

fawning deference posted:

NJ does need to win tonight or else people will start saying "told you so" about them not actually being good and those people are stupid. But please win tonight to keep the division lead

That's me and I'm right, sorry. Although for the record I do think they're good now. Just not "top 3 in the NHL" good.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

Jamwad Hilder posted:

That's me and I'm right, sorry. Although for the record I do think they're good now. Just not "top 3 in the NHL" good.

Do you think they're a 100 point team?

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

fawning deference posted:

Do you think they're a 100 point team?

If I had to bet I think they end up in the 94-104 point range. That's like 25-30 more wins, with maybe some loser points tossed in, in 50 games. Are they the team that won 13 in a row or the team that has 2 wins this entire month? I dunno. Probably in-between that somewhat. They had 27 wins all of last year so either way this season is an enormous improvement and years of everyone saying "the devils are going to be good now" finally turned out to be true.

Jamwad Hilder fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Dec 21, 2022

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

fawning deference posted:

Do you think they're a 100 point team?

I kinda don't think they are a 100 point team either.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
Auston Matthews is committing an aesthetic crime on the ice tonight.

https://twitter.com/BarDown/status/1605376890159902720?s=20&t=3wDx3oz2MhzljVPqw0-t0w

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
They're just getting PDOed on this streak. Another game they should be winning tonight but they can't finish and they're not getting saves.

poo poo happens, like how many teams are outshooting the Canes 27-13 on the road through two.

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


Hand Knit posted:

Auston Matthews is committing an aesthetic crime on the ice tonight.

https://twitter.com/BarDown/status/1605376890159902720?s=20&t=3wDx3oz2MhzljVPqw0-t0w

I wonder how ugly something would have to be to turn down a request from SickKids?

And this is one situation where I'm fine with an ad being as garish and attention grabbing as possible.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

T-Bone posted:

They're just getting PDOed on this streak. Another game they should be winning tonight but they can't finish and they're not getting saves.

poo poo happens, like how many teams are outshooting the Canes 27-13 on the road through two.

This is my position too, although at some point you've got to get past PDO and finish chances and get some wins. It's frustrating that they've lost six in a row right when the Canes/Pens/Rangers caught fire and now they are second in the division despite a 21-2 run.

If they continue to play like this, they're going to be a 100+ point team and I think that's clear. Even when they lose, they run into insane goaltending or get snakebitten on finishing chances, but when you thoroughly outplay teams like this game in and game out, including teams like the Hurricanes on the road, you're a real good team.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Metro is a god damned bloodbath. I don't like the thought of facing any of the Rangers/Devils/Canes in a series. They all look good.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Ginette Reno posted:

Metro is a god damned bloodbath.

Every year.

Don’t count out the Caps yet, they got something going.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Cartoon Man posted:

Every year.

Don’t count out the Caps yet, they got something going.

Yeah them and the Islanders. Some decent teams are gonna miss the playoffs just due to lack of spots. Though the Metro may send 5 this year.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

https://twitter.com/MitchellClinton/status/1605384192585568261

Morrissey is good

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

FBS posted:

Morrissey is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQR78U6zvGI

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line

He should be in the Norris conversation, crazy what a new coach can do

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

fawning deference posted:

This is my position too, although at some point you've got to get past PDO and finish chances and get some wins. It's frustrating that they've lost six in a row right when the Canes/Pens/Rangers caught fire and now they are second in the division despite a 21-2 run.

If they continue to play like this, they're going to be a 100+ point team and I think that's clear. Even when they lose, they run into insane goaltending or get snakebitten on finishing chances, but when you thoroughly outplay teams like this game in and game out, including teams like the Hurricanes on the road, you're a real good team.

Yeah they need to turn it around sooner than later but there's no real reason to panic yet. Getting Bastian and Palat back would be real nice though.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



The Dirty Burger posted:

He should be in the Norris conversation, crazy what a new coach can do

Call it the Paul Maurice Effect.

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
"Coincidentally" Aaron Ekblad is looking as bad as he was the year he got concussed. Just can't put my finger on any similarities between the two situations.

DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

HAHA! WOOOOOOO WOOO!
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/kevinbuist/status/1605238228545851392?s=46&t=iQmQJGTHc96teE8KoTZD1w

which member of SAS is getting banned first from MSG using facial recognition?

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Iodised QQ
Jul 23, 2004

A fan who truly is a thorn in the side of management

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