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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Anarc: Grandi scum That's reductive and you know it. I think you are scum based on content, not because you voted me. And I am being voted by many people, and others have called me out, why am I keying in on you?
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b-minus1 posted:A townie would have claimed the vig right away To what end? How does it help the town if the town vig claimed? If they aren't on the block, it isn't stopping an execution of a townie. If they are a single shot, then they are effectively vanilla now and eating a kill isn't a bad thing. If they are multi-shot, putting a target on their back is a bad thing. Town vigs claim after hitting scum to gloat, not because it is good for the town.
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b-minus1 posted:A townie would have claimed the vig right away What if they can shoot again
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Jan 8, 2023 02:11
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Then that's a super OP town role
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Jan 8, 2023 02:48
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Hey, Clo, Sandy, why did neither of you vote for anyone D1?
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Jan 8, 2023 02:58
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Hey, Clo, Sandy, why did neither of you vote for anyone D1? General negligence? I shoulda voted RWC leading up to deadline
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Jan 8, 2023 03:01
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Then that's a super OP town role b-minus1 posted:A townie would have claimed the vig right away 
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Jan 8, 2023 04:18
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Idle Amalgam posted:So you acknowledge that the vig is town and not 3p??? No, that's taking what I said out of context. Here's the full conversation. b-minus1 posted:A townie would have claimed the vig right away Sandwolf posted:What if they can shoot again AnonymousNarcotics posted:Then that's a super OP town role
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Jan 8, 2023 04:57
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Toalpaz posted:Lol, I'm town doctor, the hypnotist from office space You would think "idiot town" would include you since obviously you were there in time. I know you've screwed around with deadlines before and you like your gambits, I'm just not sure if this is one you'd play as scum.
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Jan 8, 2023 05:17
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:No, that's taking what I said out of context. Here's the full conversation. Ah, that's my bad. Sorry.
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Jan 8, 2023 05:19
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Maerlyn posted:You would think "idiot town" would include you since obviously you were there in time. I know you've screwed around with deadlines before and you like your gambits, I'm just not sure if this is one you'd play as scum. yeah lol, toal calling anyone idiot town when they openly said they tried to swing to mae and just posted don't give up a bunch. That really is a bit supsect.
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Jan 8, 2023 05:20
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Idle Amalgam posted:yeah lol, toal calling anyone idiot town when they openly said they tried to swing to mae and just posted don't give up a bunch. That really is a bit supsect. Yeah it’s not great, one or the other would be eh but combined is bad. But the doc claim.. I dunno
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Jan 8, 2023 05:29
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Sandwolf posted:What if they can shoot again The doctor can protect them
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Jan 8, 2023 05:35
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That's the thing, I don't trust Toal's doc claim at all and they also have not bothered looking for scum. It's them or Grandi today.
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Jan 8, 2023 05:50
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##vote Grandicap
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Jan 8, 2023 06:10
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Want to look at this again:votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 1
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After some sleep I'm not really feeling Grandi as scum. Maybe it's meta but stuff like this:Grandicap posted:This the only sus RWC post I see. I don't have a problem with the rest of their stuff, but this one is very self conscious about the Sandvig and Sand's reaction to Sandvig. just doesn't gel with stuff scum Grandi has done in the past (is usually good about bussing I think, I don't know that I've seen a scum game where he even lightly defended a scumbuddy?)
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Illusionis posted:There probably was a scum or 2 riding the RWC bus and Binus does look like a pretty likely one. You think Binus as scum just parked a vote on RWC (also scum)? I've seen scum Binus try to point fingers at a player who wasn't even in the game anymore...I don't think binus is scum here.
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Illusionis posted:Tbh I had forgotten you were sussing and voting RWC way early, thought for some reason it was only around when you posted that stuff about RWC's claim. Looks like I was most likely wrong about you. Hadn't gotten to this comment yet I guess, ignore prior comment
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Votecount for Day 2  Grandicap (4): Toalpaz, Idle Amalgam, AnonymousNarcotics, Toalpaz (3): Maerlyn, Green Wing, Cloacamazing!, Illusionis, Grandicap, Idle Amalgam (2): ObamaAkbar., wologar AnonymousNarcotics (1): Grandicap Not Voting (3): Idle Amalgam, PlasticAutomaton, SandwolfWith 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is January 09th, 2023 at 10 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 day, 19 hours.  Now don't be greedy, we want to make sure everyone gets a slice. Don't take, just pass.
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Hey, Clo, Sandy, why did neither of you vote for anyone D1? Timing issues. D1 was really slow to get going. I even pointed that out here Cloacamazing! posted:So, er, who scum? Deadline's coming up, sleeptime's coming up and half the thread is on their way to get a lurker warning. The RWC post that started her train happened about half an hour after I'd gone to bed, so my vote would not have been on her in any case. Sucks, but that's being a Euro player for you.
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Anyway, the Toal doc claim stinks, but if we're moving off her, IA is looking worse than Grandi in my opinion. ##vote IA
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Cloacamazing! posted:Anyway, the Toal doc claim stinks, but if we're moving off her, IA is looking worse than Grandi in my opinion. ##vote IA Why does IA look worse?
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##vote IA Get scummy vibes from IA, redirected vote from RWC and then left it there (I know, the siren song of White Claws and a blankie, I've been there). The argument he used to avoid voting RWC was so flimsy, pondered Anarc being scum, and then just abandoned the thread. Grandi and I both commented on Toal's remark about "dumb town" albeit in different ways, IA has strikingly different reactions: Grandicap posted:Bold mine, but that is not a town-thought. It otherizes the town and shifts blame. Idle Amalgam posted:hmmm, I don't like this psychoanalytical decompartmentalizing. Maerlyn posted:You would think "idiot town" would include you since obviously you were there in time. Idle Amalgam posted:yeah lol, toal calling anyone idiot town when they openly said they tried to swing to mae and just posted don't give up a bunch. That really is a bit supsect. I wasn't too keen on his earlier posts from D1 - actually I went back and looked and IA doesn't really post anything in the way of opinions of people, a vote for Plastic and this with no further explanations: Idle Amalgam posted:With only minutes to spare, the one true mafia expert and super detective returns to the thread with hot takes and invaluable insights. You can rest easy now. His comments today just feel like he's trying to stay alive. He didn't have any rationale for thinking scum was OA or Sand - it was really just a throwaway comment before deadline. AN commenting on a no lunch REALLY freaks me out (I keep thinking about that  emoji, awfully cheeky to post after no lunching like what point are you trying to make? You were right about not lunching because that's exactly what happened isn't usually the point scum wants to make). AN also had that bad vote on RWC. I haven't even really read the back and forth with Grandi yet but this is long enough for now.I'd be open to voting either. Toal too but the doc claim does give me pause.
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Sandwolf posted:Why does IA look worse? IA was actively posting around end of day, then voted Maer and disappeared. Grandi had pushed Maer before and switched to RWC when it seemed obvious she was going to get lunched. It's not a great look for Grandi, but IA comes off worse, and I also feel like his part in last day's situation is being mostly ignored. I'm certain there's scum between Toal, IA and Grandi. I'm also certain all three of them can't be scum together. Toal is looking the worst to me, but enough people are willing to give her doctor claim a try.
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I was around literally 20 minutes before deadline and voted what I felt was right. You're making it out like I maliciously appeared and vanished. Toal and grandi admitted to actively trying to swing the vote. I voted who seemed most likely to be scum from the fairly empty vote on RWC. As town I had no indication that RWC was scum when I voted.
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Jan 8, 2023 14:21
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I am NOT scum this game
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Yeah, exactly, you were around and could have prevented a no lunch. You chose not to. That's not a town move.
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I don't think I believe the claim? I maintain what I said about the unbelievability of yesterday's happenings from a town perspective. I would vote IA - but I don't belive Toal's claim, it seems like a last-ditch rolefishing idk. I haven't been around as I spent all of Saturday playing a 12 hour twilight imperium game for somebody's birthday. Four hours my foot! At least I won
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Going to look back on my D1 scum reads and see what's what
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I dont care if you believe it to be honest. If you think I'm scum, that's fine by me.
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Idle Amalgam posted:I dont care if you believe it to be honest. Oh I was talking about Toal's claim I haven't read up to your claim yet
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Green Wing posted:Oh I was talking about Toal's claim I haven't read up to your claim yet Was to cloaca
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Still early and brain not booted up all the way. In any case, there's literally nothing else I can say about my d1 motivations other than I was absent most the day as indicated by my posts and I came in at the end of the day with my opinions. Toal actually caused the no lunch.
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I mean go refer to my big post about it. Also cloaca you didnt even vote. Pretty bold of you to pointing 'caused no lunch' fingers.
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So are green wing and cloaca scum? I’m not liking these recent posts of theirs
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Maerlyn posted:After some sleep I'm not really feeling Grandi as scum. Maybe it's meta but stuff like this: It actually happened in a game I modded where you were both scum and went all in on defending each other
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b-minus1 posted:So are green wing and cloaca scum? I’m not liking these recent posts of theirs  Maybe not Cloaca, though. I don't think I've seen her put in actual effort when scum.
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Having both IA and Grandi say "I'm not scum" throws me for a loop because I tend to take such statements at face value at first, lol. I'll say that Grandi here reminds me of Robots Mafia where I (and a bunch of people, as he was the D1 lunch) thought that his claim/posting was fake, trying to tug at our heartstrings... and it was true.
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Green Wing posted:
These are my scum reads from day 1. I think I'd remove Maerlyn from that list now by virtue of the battle between her and rwc day 1. Wol could have been bussing and I don't like their posts still. Plastic hasn't really contributed much today and was my top scum read yesterday, that hasn't really changed at all. I still prefer trying to root out the scum that caused the NL, but - laying out my stall
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