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Ignatius M. Meen posted:#1: we're throwing up our hands in the suspicion that there's a second team, and/or that this is Pelicana Drama again and the game is won when the people who are more tangential to the whole mess are the real threats to town. TM and Hal are the most likely options. sure we could draw this out and get culled over a few weeks but meh So is that why there was talk of a second scum team earlier? I guess that explains why multiball was even a discussion yesterday.
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saladscooper posted:Excuse me? Why do you think I was so unworried yesterday about flipping? Lol I'm in a confirmed masonry, I won't out with whom, but if either they or I flip, the other is confirmed.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:#1: we're throwing up our hands in the suspicion that there's a second team, and/or that this is Pelicana Drama again and the game is won when the people who are more tangential to the whole mess are the real threats to town. TM and Hal are the most likely options. sure we could draw this out and get culled over a few weeks but meh appreciate you trying to explain this to me but i'm afraid i don't really get it please let's flip monathin so we can see his rolecard for ourselves
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Jan 25, 2023 19:58
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Monathin posted:Why do you want to protect Moz over a scumteam risking claiming in full? What kind of gambit does this serve? Because i suspect you get some sort of reward if Moritz dies and it does not mean that you would side with town.
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WindwardAway posted:Why do you think I was so unworried yesterday about flipping? Lol what alignment are you confirmed as
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WindwardAway posted:Yeah I feel like there's a catch where if we vote out Moritz first the scumteam is gonna get something like a soup kill activation and instead of converting to town they're just gonna kill 5 townies in a single night There's no catch. We're taking a leap of faith here. Also, 
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Jan 25, 2023 19:59
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WindwardAway posted:So is that why there was talk of a second scum team earlier? I guess that explains why multiball was even a discussion yesterday. Pmom isn't on our team at any rate.  Having engaged in that spec myself as town I felt like it was NAI.
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Pinterest Mom posted:what alignment are you confirmed as We were told we're confirmed town to each other
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Smh I put salad on my town list.
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WindwardAway posted:Because i suspect you get some sort of reward if Moritz dies and it does not mean that you would side with town. yes
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Pmom isn't on our team at any rate. Well if Pmom has seen these games before it's not sus, I was just curious since it sounds like this is an Ecco thing and I don't normally see these mechanics at play.
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b-minus1 posted:Smh I put salad on my town list. Same, which is extremely funny because it means I have a 100% incorrect read rate on him since when he was town I tunnelled him out of the game.
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i feel p good about how i read salad - mindmelding with me, but not necessarily town for it although i wouldn't have considered him today had monathin dead to rights meen i was neutral on
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Jan 25, 2023 20:01
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Monathin posted:Why do you want to protect Moz over a scumteam risking claiming in full? What kind of gambit does this serve? no idea, but i think it's more likely that you benefit at our expense from eliminating Moritz than the game was set up so that town and scum can ride off into the sunset together
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I can at least confirm none of us in flavor think we'll get a reward for killing Moz, beyond, as Meen said, possibly being able to win. Also flipping me is a total buzzkill given this is a total leap of faith gambit, lol. I'm just trying to keep things interesting. I played as scum in Election and the King and got blown up for playing "typically", so I'm going wildcard route here and hoping enough town are willing to follow me on this digression.
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Jan 25, 2023 20:03
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shwinnebego posted:appreciate you trying to explain this to me but i'm afraid i don't really get it For once, shwinn and I are on the same page.
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Wait wait wait I just realized this doesn't add up numbers wise There can't be a second full scum team because clord/Meen/salad/Mona + Moritz is already 5 scum I'm pretty sure there can only be 6-7 antitown with the number of players we have So doesnt that just mean it's a scumteam of 5 plus a serial killer or something?
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WindwardAway posted:Wait wait wait I just realized this doesn't add up numbers wise It'd work if it's smaller - only 3 or 4 people, perhaps. Plus if it doesn't have an NK.
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WindwardAway posted:Wait wait wait I just realized this doesn't add up numbers wise eh, in the game i was just talking about, 8 scum for 21 players
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shwinnebego posted:appreciate you trying to explain this to me but i'm afraid i don't really get it Imagine you're playing some sort of survival game and realize you're boned on an expedition. You're way too far away from your base to return before your supplies run out and there is no way to restock before you die. Do you spend 5 minutes trying to go back to your base anyway, or do you hit the button that lets you return to base immediately? For that matter, imagine hitting this button causes you to explode in ludicrous gibs, whereas there's a drawn-out cutscene of you slowly dying while walking in your future if you don't. Isn't hitting the button more entertaining? Isn't entertainment why you play games? Like honestly this is not what I'd ever do normally, but taking this road is vastly funnier than the alternative, and it'd be cool to have guessed right.
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saladscooper posted:It'd work if it's smaller - only 3 or 4 people, perhaps. Plus if it doesn't have an NK. 3 or 4 people means there's 8 or 9 antitown roles which is kind of crazy I guess if you're telling the truth that you can conditionally convert to townsiding maybe it adds up, but I can't be arsed to do the math for that
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Like honestly this is not what I'd ever do normally, but taking this road is vastly funnier than the alternative, and it'd be cool to have guessed right. This. It's a total gamble, and I doubt my flavor will confirm 100% what's going on. But if I'm going down either way, I'd like to go down at least seeing if I'm totally deluded or not.
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Pinterest Mom posted:eh, in the game i was just talking about, 8 scum for 21 players Ah OK so maybe salad is right Bleh, I need to think on this more
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Isn't it kinda dumb to have a win con that's about killing one specific person? It's not like that's hard to do.
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Tired Moritz posted:Isn't it kinda dumb to have a win con that's about killing one specific person? It's not like that's hard to do. Well yes, that's why I'm skeptical
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Tired Moritz posted:Isn't it kinda dumb to have a win con that's about killing one specific person? It's not like that's hard to do. Also, were you told that you were a mafia boss and the mafia wanted to kill you?
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WindwardAway posted:Also, were you told that you were a mafia boss and the mafia wanted to kill you? I'm just Hal's wife.
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Tired Moritz posted:I'm just Hal's wife. Explain that I clearly got a message from you, "just Hal's wife," this morning
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It’s very fishy
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Monathin posted:This. It's a total gamble, and I doubt my flavor will confirm 100% what's going on. But if I'm going down either way, I'd like to go down at least seeing if I'm totally deluded or not. if you're telling the truth, then we can eliminate you today to confirm that you're telling the truth and, if you are, eliminate Tired Moritz tomorrow sounds like a win/win
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Tired Moritz posted:Isn't it kinda dumb to have a win con that's about killing one specific person? It's not like that's hard to do. it can be made hard EccoRaven posted:
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claimed scum, what is your win condition
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shwinnebego posted:claimed scum, what is your win condition unassailable control over the vote
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What a wild ride to wake up to
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saladscooper posted:Explain that I clearly got a message from you, "just Hal's wife," this morning Sorry, I really don't know anything. Did you get bamboozled by someone else sending you a fake message?
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Tired Moritz posted:Sorry, I really don't know anything. Did you get bamboozled by someone else sending you a fake message? The fact that you send messages to me is in my role PM
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Well my win condition is to stop the violence at the wedding: i win when all scum players are eliminated Ergo, I must eliminate all of ya'll claimed scum.
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shwinnebego posted:Well my win condition is to stop the violence at the wedding: i win when all scum players are eliminated well they're "mafia" they may not be scum
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Moz is lying, salad has been getting communications from Moz.shwinnebego posted:if you're telling the truth, then we can eliminate you today to confirm that you're telling the truth and, if you are, eliminate Tired Moritz tomorrow My flip is not going to do anything for you but confirm your bias that Moz is town and I'm a lying scum. Both of which aren't true.
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