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Technowolf posted:Really hope Tim Russ gets to at least show up on Prodigy. Would hate to have his last appearance in Trek be on loving Picard. I'm just glad that if it IS the last we ever see of Tuvok, at least it was a dignified appearance and he wasn't shot or blown up or mutilated or debased and defamed in any way like every other non-main cast legacy character so far.
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nine-gear crow posted:I'm just glad that if it IS the last we ever see of Tuvok, at least it was a dignified appearance and he wasn't shot or blown up or mutilated or debased and defamed in any way like every other non-main cast legacy character so far. Well of course he turned out to be fine, he was a) a Voyager castmember and b) a man.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Well of course he turned out to be fine, he was a) a Voyager castmember and b) a man. Poor poor Icheb.
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May 10, 2023 05:57
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socialsecurity posted:Poor poor Icheb. I just wish it was filmed better, I don't care about the character. The actor is a piece of poo poo but whatever. The scene didn't match the show, and even if it did it was poorly done.
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May 10, 2023 06:01
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Khanstant posted:Don't you need like an account or whatever to leave a star review? IMDb blows, I click around it to go to Wikipedia if I'm trying to look up movie info I've lost count how many times I have given up on IMDB or other such sites (F1.com for race results/driver stats, for example) and found what I was looking for in a fraction of the time and in a much easier to understand presentation on Wikipedia. It's almost enough to toss in $3 when they beg for it. But, nah.
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I think the only redeeming thing of Icheb’s murder in Picard is that Memory Alpha’s extremely strict policies on character representation means that the image at the top of his character page will forever be his corpse, as it is his most recent on-screen portrayal, which is extremely funny to me as an absurd consequence of wiki editorial culture. I cannot imagine anyone involved being happy with this outcome, but there are Rules, they were strictly followed, and this is the result. I really hope Lower Decks or Prodigy gives him a cameo so that he can join Paris and Janeway as canonically being cartoon characters.
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May 10, 2023 08:25
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blastron posted:there are Rules, they were strictly followed, and this is the result. That's hilarious.
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May 10, 2023 12:46
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nine-gear crow posted:Both Discovery and Picard have consistently had decent IMDB ratings all throughout their runs so, that's hardly surprising. Man discovery absolutely hasn't It pretty much tracks with what the thread says with the exception of one or two episodes
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Super Deuce posted:I just wish it was filmed better, I don't care about the character. The actor is a piece of poo poo but whatever. The scene didn't match the show, and even if it did it was poorly done. It had- -Gratuitous eye removal -A villain named ‘Vajazzle’ -Picard doing a really terrible accent -Seven just murdering everyone at the end and Picard knowing that would happen and not stopping her
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May 10, 2023 13:08
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Alternate-future Kirk should've had a big scar on his face to really drive the point home
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May 10, 2023 20:20
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Gaz-L posted:(Finale aired like 6 months ago, so not gonna spoiler tag... except for this I guess) Just about everything on that show is well crafted to hit the main points of Star Trek as a series, while also dealing with new plots and themes. It'd be great to see other series from that team whenever Prodigy ends.
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May 10, 2023 20:46
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blastron posted:I think the only redeeming thing of Icheb’s murder in Picard is that Memory Alpha’s extremely strict policies on character representation means that the image at the top of his character page will forever be his corpse, as it is his most recent on-screen portrayal, which is extremely funny to me as an absurd consequence of wiki editorial culture. I cannot imagine anyone involved being happy with this outcome, but there are Rules, they were strictly followed, and this is the result. I'm laughing like a hyena oh my god. I guess this is the logical result if a character's only appearance is to be murdered, but that doesn't seem like that niche of a scenario tbh.
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May 10, 2023 21:21
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Icheb, or as he preferred to be called, “Itchy.”
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blastron posted:I think the only redeeming thing of Icheb’s murder in Picard is that Memory Alpha’s extremely strict policies on character representation means that the image at the top of his character page will forever be his corpse, as it is his most recent on-screen portrayal, which is extremely funny to me as an absurd consequence of wiki editorial culture. I cannot imagine anyone involved being happy with this outcome, but there are Rules, they were strictly followed, and this is the result. So K'Ehelyr was murdered by Duras... so why is her Memory Alpha top image from when she was very much not murdered? https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/K%27Ehleyr Is it possible that Memory Alpha is... inconsistent??
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MA is edited by the absolute worst kind of nerds and disgraced SA mods, so I like to imagine there’s huge amounts of furious infighting over this incredibly dumb and inconsequential formatting choice.
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You know, I just realized that the writer's strike means that Matalas's imaginary Star Trek: Legacy is definitely not gonna happen now.
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Fighting Trousers posted:You know, I just realized that the writer's strike means that Matalas's imaginary Star Trek: Legacy is definitely not gonna happen now. Hellworld comedy option: the strike ends up killing his Witch Mountain projects at Disney and CBS hires him back afterward to actually do Legacy since he’s free again
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Hellworld comedy option: the strike ends up killing his Witch Mountain projects at Disney and CBS hires him back afterward to actually do Legacy since he’s free again Let's call that "...the Borg is everywhere!" timeline because I'm sure that's exactly what we would get.
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May 10, 2023 23:54
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Hellworld comedy option: the strike ends up killing his Witch Mountain projects at Disney and CBS hires him back afterward to actually do Legacy since he’s free again Disney is forcing its showrunners to work through the strike because it's Disney and they are an avatar of all the evils of capitalism right down the frozen DNA of Walt himself, so we're still more than even odds on him never getting away from their clutches to ever start work on #StarTrekLegacy. I could see Kurtzman deciding to make the show because he "listened to the fans" and then just leave Matalas out in the cold on it.
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Unless Matalas has already completed the writing portion of his projects there’s no way Disney is getting him to do anything right now.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Unless Matalas has already completed the writing portion of his projects there’s no way Disney is getting him to do anything right now. Folks from Disney's animation side who are now currently between jobs after Disney murdered their various shows over the last three years have been posting screenshots of their showrunner contracts and highlighting the parts of them that Disney has "creatively" and "legally" deemed to not be writing related, but are still 100% actually writing related: https://twitter.com/Radrappy/status/1654662269710766080 Matalas, presumably, is in a similar ball vice at the moment w/r/t Witch Mountain.
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May 11, 2023 00:22
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Isn’t animation a different situation since they don’t have a union?
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T.C. posted:I have no real interest in seeing McCoy in SNW. I don't think there's a way you do a transition to the TOS situation in a way that is actually satisfying. I don't think it sets up an interesting story and would just be about filling gaps for the sake of filling gaps. It isn't necessary either. It isn't like each season is 1 year of in-character time. All of season 1 could have happened in a few months which means they could have like 15 seasons before worrying about TOS. More seasons then they will ever need.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Isn’t animation a different situation since they don’t have a union? Yes, different union, but the tweet is replying to a news story that literally says "Disney is making all of its showrunners regardless of department keep working despite the strike". The Hollywood Reporter posted:Disney and Warner Bros. Discovery this week sent out a letter to showrunners employed by the companies’ various studios reminding striking writer-producers that they are still expected to perform their contractually obligated non-writing services.
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The most high profile of these is Tony Gilroy who now appears to be holding to the strike and not doing anything for Andor's second season until the strike's over. Which means that show's either gonna be a lot messier than the first season, or they're gonna need to do a lot of work in post/reshoots once the strike is over. So they're either taking the hit to reputation (Disney ruined a great show by refusing to work with the union) or to their wallet.
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nine-gear crow posted:Yes, different union, but the tweet is replying to a news story that literally says "Disney is making all of its showrunners regardless of department keep working despite the strike". The only possible response to Disney Legal saying the writers still have to write posted:May 10, 2023
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Gaz-L posted:The most high profile of these is Tony Gilroy who now appears to be holding to the strike and not doing anything for Andor's second season until the strike's over. Which means that show's either gonna be a lot messier than the first season, or they're gonna need to do a lot of work in post/reshoots once the strike is over. So they're either taking the hit to reputation (Disney ruined a great show by refusing to work with the union) or to their wallet. It's so frustrating that the first decent thing to come out of that franchise in 40 years will of course be hosed over for it's conclusion. I mean they pulled the first one off during the pandemic, but I have much less faith in Disney doing the right thing here.
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So I got around to watching Prodigy and SNW. They were both pretty good. I didn't watch all of Prodigy, but it was miles better than Picard in every aspect. Feels like they actually planned out the series arc rather than cobbling it together at the last moment. As for SNW, I liked pretty much everything about it, with the exception of the Gorn and them being essentially xenomorphs now. Also Laan Noonien Soong. Not the character, the name.
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Also Laan Noonien Soong. Not the character, the name. Singh, not Soong. 
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Timby posted:Singh, not Soong. Lol I was trying to remember if it was Singh or Soong, what with them saying that Khan was named after Data's inventor's ancestor and all that.
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I was going to make a joke about how it's like having a character named Billy Hitler. But then I remembered that there actually was a Bill Hitler. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stuart-Houston
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Timby posted:Singh, not Soong. Singh Singh a Soong Singh out loud Singh out loong
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:I was going to make a joke about how it's like having a character named Billy Hitler. But then I remembered that there actually was a Bill Hitler. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stuart-Houston Also kind of weird to honor your friend from the war by naming your Space Hitler character after him.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Also kind of weird to honor your friend from the war by naming your Space Hitler character after him. Didn’t Roddenberry name Khan to get the attention of his friend as they’d lost contact with each other? IIRC he did the same thing with Noonien Soong 20 years later. I guess pissing him off might be a better way of getting him to respond, but I think by that point you have to admit that he doesn’t want to be your friend anymore, Gene.
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:I was going to make a joke about how it's like having a character named Billy Hitler. But then I remembered that there actually was a Bill Hitler. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stuart-Houston Trying to blackmail Uncle Hitler into giving you a job is hilarious.
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I'm not bothered by Noonien Singh because the actress did good and the character writing manage to tie it in reasonably instead of just fully relying on nostalgia, and alsoKhan probably hosed a lot like Genghis did so there being random noonien singhs running around is reasonable whereas Picard having a ship full of nepobabies is a little too much for me.
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Also at this point the Botany Bay is still adrift in space somewhere so La'an's surname is really more of an interesting historical footnote to contemporary people at this time; it's like finding out that there are still Habsburgs posting on Twitter in 2023.
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The Khan poo poo was my #1 worry before the show and I'm glad they didn't do anything stupid about it. I hope they can continue not being stupid.
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I mean they haven’t even mentioned anything about it aside from La’an referencing a colony ship she was on as a kid iirc. And even that was implied to just be a regular Federation ship given it was eligible for her to wear a pin for it on Remembrance Day. She also hasn’t displayed super strength or superhuman tactical prowess, so I doubt she’s even an augment. It’s just the name.
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