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I'm still fairly certain that what went wrong with Gunnerkrigg was that the author had what he thought was a moving emotional conclusion to his protagonist's emotional arc based on his own life experience, and when he posted it the response he got was "you learned the wrong lessons from your life experience, and we are now filled with contempt for all of your protagonist's so-called friends for not intervening." In response to this he decided to finish the comic but delete all further references to the protagonist's personal arc, with the result that the story is now speed-running a bunch of plot events that the protagonist doesn't seem that interested in. I actually think he deserves some credit for this, since most people in his situation would probably have wound up becoming the main character of Twitter for a week, and not doing that requires some remarkable self-control.
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GC is now the Loup show, and Loup is just Coyote's sense of unhinged danger but without any of Coyote's fun. And now he doesn't even have that because he touched a boob.Rand Brittain posted:In response to this he decided to finish the comic but delete all further references to the protagonist's personal arc, with the result that the story is now speed-running a bunch of plot events that the protagonist doesn't seem that interested in. It would be real nice if it was a speed run, the comic keeps introducing big world-shaking events that seem like a climax and then just kinda going "eh but it's not a big deal and we're going to futz around with something else for a while". I genuinely can not tell if the comic is actually building towards an ending, at some awkward midpoint, or just meandering aimlessly forever. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 30, 2023 |
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M_Gargantua posted:It's foundational to the modern media meta As a goon project, how much of the podcast is just a hate-read kind of thing? I still have some lingering affection for the first 5 acts of homestuck and a retrospective could be a fun listen. Luckily I'm confident my old posts in the homestuck thread were too boring to be receive their deserved ridicule.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:As a goon project, how much of the podcast is just a hate-read kind of thing? I still have some lingering affection for the first 5 acts of homestuck and a retrospective could be a fun listen. Luckily I'm confident my old posts in the homestuck thread were too boring to be receive their deserved ridicule. it’s not a hate-read, also I am not affiliated with it it’s not really a goon project either, obviously one of the guys has an account but no indication he actually posts on it anymore
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i get that the gunnerkrigg thread is a depressing shithole nobody would want to post in but when you post about it here all you're doing is making other threads also depressing shitholes
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A bit of pooping on break week, as a treat
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all I ask is that you take it to one of those Book Barn threads about Warhammer novels or somewhere else I already hate
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:i get that the gunnerkrigg thread is a depressing shithole nobody would want to post in but when you post about it here all you're doing is making other threads also depressing shitholes Gunnerkrigg chat and Homestuck chat should be understood as desperate cries for help (an update).
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Rohan Kishibe posted:As a goon project, how much of the podcast is just a hate-read kind of thing? I still have some lingering affection for the first 5 acts of homestuck and a retrospective could be a fun listen. Luckily I'm confident my old posts in the homestuck thread were too boring to be receive their deserved ridicule. I would say it's definitely a hate-read podcast. In the end I got fed up with it because they seem to have completely missed the point and think that a lot of the things Hussie was saying were an attack on all fans, everywhere, when I'm pretty sure what Hussie was trying to say was that they, specifically, have a really lovely way of engaging with media. I also checked out their follow-up Undertale LP and it's become clear that as a result of the feedback theye got from that podcast, they've embraced being annoying on purpose, which essentially destroys any chance of their saying something useful in future.
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We need an update I wanna go back to the derails being about what exactly Royalty is
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Royalty is scrolling past replies you don't care about
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Rand Brittain posted:I would say it's definitely a hate-read podcast. In the end I got fed up with it because they seem to have completely missed the point and think that a lot of the things Hussie was saying were an attack on all fans, everywhere, when I'm pretty sure what Hussie was trying to say was that they, specifically, have a really lovely way of engaging with media. That does seem like an odd take, considering a lot of the latter plot revolved around the dichotomy between the positive and negative aspects of fandom.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:all I ask is that you take it to one of those Book Barn threads about Warhammer novels or somewhere else I already hate Don't poo poo up the fun Warhammer book thread with GC drama 
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So what you're saying is Homestuck did permanent damage to them 
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coolusername posted:What do you think about Homestuck? 
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GunnerJ posted:It was a cool and interesting dynamic ("yeah, we're each other's duplicate, but we get along so whatever") that didn't actually need any merger as a resolution, they had already worked their poo poo out. But, that's how "main character gets split/duplicated" stories get resolved, gotta merge or one of them has to go, thems the rules (of writing to trope definitions). OTOH, Tuvix
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:all I ask is that you take it to one of those Book Barn threads about Warhammer novels or somewhere else I already hate Sorry sorry NEW TOPIC FOR BREAK WEEK So Disco Elysium,
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Benagain posted:Royalty is scrolling past replies you don't care about
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Half you fools wouldn't last a single break week in the one piece thread
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Rand Brittain posted:I would say it's definitely a hate-read podcast. I was afraid of that. I'm down for some critical takes in retrospect, but I'm kind of over "thing bad lol" takes on stuff. I get it Mike Stoklasa, you have every movie. Oxxidation posted:it’s not a hate-read Now I don't know what to believe!
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Rohan Kishibe posted:Half you fools wouldn't last a single break week in the one piece thread It's a pretty bad show, I wouldn't last more than a few seconds
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Rohan Kishibe posted:Half you fools wouldn't last a single break week in the one piece thread One piece is mediocre op saying that as someone who has read that poo poo since I was a kid
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Act 4 Act 4 Intermission 2 MEGAHIATUS 2
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One Piece? Well at least I know we're not talking about Cio.
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I don't think Homestuck Made This World is a hate-read at all. Michael is a fan of the series and is genuinely enthusiastic about telling you about Homestuck, and CMRN is a new reader who has mixed opinions about it but is engaging with it fairly. The important note is that it's a critical analysis and historical contextualization, the results of which are very subjective, so you might not agree with their takes on things.
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They lose the "historical analysis and contextualization" right around cascade for some reason. Something must have happened to make meaningful analysis difficult so it just became a "read and discuss with some fun posts and tumblers for context"
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Looking forward to this comic returning from hiatus soon. Though I'm glad Operant took some time away for a break. It's easy to overlook in discussions but comics are a really difficult artform that requires an immense amount of time and effort. So burn out and injuries from overwork are fairly common unfortunately. So looking after your own health is really important. Also you know we are going to get some amazing pages in the final arc. Gonna be great and absolutely worth the wait.
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Homestuck doesn't make sense without act 6 unless you were only ever there for the funny inventory jokes and big plot reveal moments
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Did Gideon Nav study the blade like Maya, or would she have taken Metis advice? Are their sparkly sexy vampires in throne and if yes when are we going to see them so we can start merchandising?
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Gideon is Aesma reincarnated and you cannot convince me otherwise.
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Kalli posted:One Piece? Well at least I know we're not talking about Cio. finally a good post
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Fender Anarchist posted:Homestuck doesn't make sense without act 6 unless you were only ever there for the funny inventory jokes and big plot reveal moments I mean I stuck out act 6 because I wanted said sense-making, and now I regret that I didn't bail at the end of 5, because now when I re-read earlier stuff, I know full well the dumbass ending of each of the character threads I'm reading, and it retroactively makes them feel lamer knowing what actually happens to each. I would so much rather it still didn't makes sense to me and I could still enjoy the good earlier stuff on re-reads.
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the holy poopacy posted:That does seem like an odd take, considering a lot of the latter plot revolved around the dichotomy between the positive and negative aspects of fandom. I actually think the podcast completely agrees with you here. I think they just kind of take issue with some of the ways Hussie defines "negative" and "positive" fandom. It is definitely not a hate read podcast. Although this is wrong thread for this.
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An age passed, everything old is new once more. We laugh at god and spin the wheel. It is April 2009 again, and we are optimistic at the horrors and wonders the 2010s will hold for us.
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Bilirubin posted:Sorry sorry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By_T39ENlkg
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One of the things that really drew me into Homestuck was the mysteries, especially the time travel ones. My brain latched onto figuring out how everything fit together. How did this object get here and why is it more pristine than it was earlier? Where does this scene fit in compared to the rest? What is this person's agenda? I'm just generally enraptured with the process of discovery, seeing it all slowly unfold, weaving itself together. Problem Sleuth had a decent amount of this already, and Homestuck was initially just Problem Sleuth with dialogue and music. Great! Then it got steadily less Problem Sleuth and more interpersonal drama with a ballooning cast to generate ever more drama. The whole fandom metacommentary angle didn't really work for me as I was a latecomer whose exposure to the fandom was limited to a few forum avatars on a different site. My impression back then was that Hussie was simply losing the plot a little, letting himself get distracted. I did stick around until the end and had a good time, but man my guy could've really used an editor or at the very least someone to vent to about the Fans. And yeah I did love the weird video game mechanics and inventory jokes, something about characters struggling to navigate half-inscrutable systems really tickled me. I was later diagnosed with Asperger's. ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 01:16 on May 31, 2023 |
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ConfusedUs posted:Gideon is Aesma reincarnated and you cannot convince me otherwise. a surprisingly plausible theory tbh also Jod is so obviously a capital D Demiurge that i feel like its facile to point that out lol
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I have a friend who's been reading through the comic for the first time. He made it to the end of Book 4 last night and had this to say:quote:I'm not sure how I expected Book 4 to end, but the entire setting suddenly getting nuked into dust was not it.
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ThaumPenguin posted:I was later diagnosed with Asperger's. All-time great punchline. I'm still chuckling to myself 5 minutes later.
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M_Gargantua posted:Did Gideon Nav study the blade like Maya, or would she have taken Metis advice? The only thing Gideon ever studied was porn rags and I think she'd be the first to say as much.
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