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Please, god, just let us get back to basic tournament arcs with clearly understood and meaningful stakes where two people can beat the poo poo out of each other to the brink of death and then two fights later be spotted in the audience wrapped in bandages and drinking beers together.
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 21:15 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 01:20 |
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Put a recognizable brand in the mix, I cannot care about the Worm when they lose as many fights as Piccolo. Bring in Cobra or the Foot Clan or Shadaloo, something for God's sake
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 21:25 |
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RareAcumen posted:Put a recognizable brand in the mix, I cannot care about the Worm when they lose as many fights as Piccolo. Bring in Cobra or the Foot Clan or Shadaloo, something for God's sake "Did you know Bison got his body vessel idea from the Worm? And Shredder with all his clan were eradicated by the Connector alone. "
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 21:58 |
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have mukaku tank everything then die from an unexpected heart attack on account of being 100+
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 22:10 |
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have him die of old age. nothing specific, just whenever anyone asks, it was because he got too old.
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 22:15 |
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Losing is an integral part of the worm’s 1,300 year history.
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 23:53 |
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Babe Magnet posted:have him die of old age. nothing specific, just whenever anyone asks, it was because he got too old. He was too old to live.
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 23:57 |
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the writers sorta forgot that Indestructible doesnt work on the face
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 00:04 |
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CharlestonJew posted:the writers sorta forgot that Indestructible doesnt work on the face I mean he says that while bleeding
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 02:58 |
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The first punch wasn't an Ironbreaker and Mukaku's clearly out of Koga's league anyway.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 03:06 |
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Okay, but why does people knowing where Ryuki is means he has to surrender man this makes so little sense to me
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 03:18 |
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Artelier posted:Okay, but why does people knowing where Ryuki is means he has to surrender man this makes so little sense to me If Ohma and gang take Ryuki away Gaoh loses his bait for the Connector and his plan goes poof. Is my assumption.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 03:33 |
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RareAcumen posted:The first punch wasn't an Ironbreaker and Mukaku's clearly out of Koga's league anyway. I don't see any reason to assume all those strikes weren't Ironbreakers. Even if Mukaku is crazy strong it isn't like the story hasn't been telling us Koga is at least mid-string for the Kengan Circuit and nobody should reasonably tank headshots like that especially when taking hits to the nose and chin without guarding.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 03:50 |
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I think Koga still hurt his hands more than Mukaku's face. I don't know what to make of this guy. I kind of like him but I have no idea why there are so many fake outs about him. I'd expect maybe a few more swerves.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 04:18 |
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Flubby posted:I just can not care about all these ancient factions and their in-fighting and splinter groups. I do like the connector himself and how strangely chill he is considering what he's all about, but he's the only interesting thing going with the worm. It will all be worth it if all this naff backstory (and also all that setup about using hypnosis on clones/descendents to make your personality immortal, etc. etc.) just ends with the current "The Connector", Shen Wulong, going "Nah" because he just wants to hang out and eat snacks, drink beers, and watch matches with his new bff Kaz.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 04:56 |
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:It will all be worth it if all this naff backstory (and also all that setup about using hypnosis on clones/descendents to make your personality immortal, etc. etc.) just ends with the current "The Connector", Shen Wulong, going "Nah" because he just wants to hang out and eat snacks, drink beers, and watch matches with his new bff Kaz. That's Jackie Wu and not "The Connector" Shen Wulong, though.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 04:59 |
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Oh. Well dang.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 05:06 |
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Brought To You By posted:I don't see any reason to assume all those strikes weren't Ironbreakers. Even if Mukaku is crazy strong it isn't like the story hasn't been telling us Koga is at least mid-string for the Kengan Circuit and nobody should reasonably tank headshots like that especially when taking hits to the nose and chin without guarding. Spoilers for the chapter but I'm just going by the fact that no where on the page does that first one get an Ironbreaker stamp on it and Mukaku doesn't flinch at all. But the next 7 strikes get a reaction out of him. I just took it as the first one was just a normal punch
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 05:14 |
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Artelier posted:Okay, but why does people knowing where Ryuki is means he has to surrender man this makes so little sense to me it's because Ohma was holding him off and keeping him away from where they were keeping Ryuki, but the writer needed him to come to the room with Ryuki so Koga could go off on him like this, and the writer didn't want either him or Ohma to clearly lose their fight now that he's said "I surrender" and promised to give a little exposition, not only has Ohma brought him to the room where Ryuki is, but Ohma is standing further away from Koga and the defenseless Ryuki than he is. one little phrase, "I surrender", and they've all basically dropped their guard against the guy who fought Ohma evenly and can beat all the rest of them
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 14:42 |
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Vizuyos posted:
Oh good point, he did call himself the Prostrate King (lol) afterall
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 23:36 |
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yum posted:Oh good point, he did call himself the Prostrate King (lol) afterall I read it as "Prostate King" on the panel originally.
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# ? Jun 9, 2023 14:35 |
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fizzy posted:I read it as "Prostate King" on the panel originally.
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# ? Jun 9, 2023 14:59 |
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yeah, that's definitely the face of a prostate king.
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# ? Jun 9, 2023 15:10 |
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That's a man just trying to pee a little.
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# ? Jun 9, 2023 15:20 |
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so the story is that a mook and his four subordinates made a completely ineffectual coup attempt. then the lone survivor dedicated his life to being butthurt that this stupid plan didn't work out. so he came up with even stupider plans for revenge against a guy who was brainwashed to think he is the same guy that casually killed a few traitors 50+ years ago.
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# ? Jun 9, 2023 15:32 |
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it's no baki, that's for sure.
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# ? Jun 9, 2023 15:32 |
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Warden posted:Ch 213 Did you forget about Saw Paings skull training already?
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:48 |
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or even when Koga was hitting people early on
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 20:57 |
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There's no kung fu bullshit technique or mix of steroids that will let someone punch their fingers through solid steel or stone or be able to physically dominate an F1 race car, either. Kengan has always relied on fantasy nonsense techniques, it just cloaks them in pseudo-realistic terminology to ground them a little.
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 22:07 |
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I understand not liking this arc but as the previous poster said it's nothing new
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 22:55 |
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Spuckuk posted:Did you forget about Saw Paings skull training already? Just to put that in context, Saw is exceptional in his bone defense because he did that kind of training from age 6. He's also the only fighter who can claim bone rigidity as his defensive gimmick. Here we're being told that Mukaku is using indestructible to mitigate the damage from being punched in the mouth so unless the argument is he tanked that with his lips this is another time where the Niko style swerves into stupid kung fu magic territory. Which is something I have and will continue to bemoan because I want to like the Niko style but stuff like this keeps happening with regularity.
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 23:03 |
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Kanos posted:There's no kung fu bullshit technique or mix of steroids that will let someone punch their fingers through solid steel or stone or be able to physically dominate an F1 race car, either. That stuff is mostly being done out of combat to show off, though. Julius is tough to hurt, but there's no "your fists must pack more force than an F1 racecar to even give him a bloody nose or bruise" requirement in battle. Gensai can punch holes in steel and block bullets at close range, but when he's actually in the ring, he's not ripping people to shreds with superhuman strength and senses, he's just really good at martial arts. Indestructible in particular has gotten a lot more silly as the series has gone on. It started out as "slightly reduces the damage of blows, giving an excuse for why Ohma can endure so much getting the poo poo beaten out of him", and after a while it became "ha ha, you broke your fist on my face because I tightened my muscles up a bit, shouldn't have underestimated THE NIKO STYLE".
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 23:16 |
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Rihito's entire fighting style is ripping people to pieces with super strong fingers in the ring, and Julius has specifically never had a real fight against someone who isn't literally a genetic superman with 10x human strength or a guy who is almost as much of an impossible meat mountain as he is. The protagonist's powerup function for the entirety of the first series was consciously making his heart beat really fast so he had more blood pumping through his body so he had super strength and speed. Kanos fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 11, 2023 |
# ? Jun 11, 2023 23:17 |
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Remember when Sasuke vanished in the ring because he was faster then the human eye
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 01:19 |
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remember the guy who could throw you without grabbing you it's not as out there and magical as the other stuff that's been mentioned but you should remember it anyway because it was fuckin tight
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 07:19 |
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Vizuyos posted:That stuff is mostly being done out of combat to show off, though. Julius is tough to hurt, but there's no "your fists must pack more force than an F1 racecar to even give him a bloody nose or bruise" requirement in battle. Gensai can punch holes in steel and block bullets at close range, but when he's actually in the ring, he's not ripping people to shreds with superhuman strength and senses, he's just really good at martial arts. Gensai punches holes in multiple people lol
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 07:52 |
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Gensai's trick to beat the advance and thus win Kengan Ashura was to Devil Lance Ohma's thigh so that using advance would cause him to bleed out. Gaoh has at least been more fun than other worms but he feels a bit too strong to keep living unfortunately.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 15:28 |
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Did a quick reread of the Kengan vs Purgatory tournament, Lu Tian's martial art style was the Wuwang Fist and he was known as the Centipede. How did they not immediately suspect him as a worm lol. Also, Naidan all but spelled it out in his fight vs Ryuki. Called him the last child and the Connector and everything. The brainwashing stuff is supposed to start when the recipient is a child, but as an adult, Ryuki is pretty susceptible to brainwashing so I guess it's moot. Is Ohma just a spare? I guess he's the project of the Other Niko. And I'm assuming that the Tiger Vessel = the Connector-to-be? Or is the Tiger Vessel supposed to be the recipient of the Niko style?
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 04:55 |
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yum posted:Did a quick reread of the Kengan vs Purgatory tournament, Lu Tian's martial art style was the Wuwang Fist and he was known as the Centipede. How did they not immediately suspect him as a worm lol. Also, Naidan all but spelled it out in his fight vs Ryuki. Called him the last child and the Connector and everything. The brainwashing stuff is supposed to start when the recipient is a child, but as an adult, Ryuki is pretty susceptible to brainwashing so I guess it's moot. Is Ohma just a spare? I guess he's the project of the Other Niko. And I'm assuming that the Tiger Vessel = the Connector-to-be? Or is the Tiger Vessel supposed to be the recipient of the Niko style? Isn't Ohma older than Ryuki? I forget honestly, if Ohma is older than he is likely a "failure" for some reason or another, chucked into the inside for whatever worm reasons, probably to see what would happen.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 11:06 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 01:20 |
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AtomikKrab posted:Isn't Ohma older than Ryuki? I forget honestly, if Ohma is older than he is likely a "failure" for some reason or another, chucked into the inside for whatever worm reasons, probably to see what would happen.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 16:19 |