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AWWNAW posted:here’s the thing. I wasn’t even looking for a new job and I definitely wasn’t looking to stop smoking weed. I’m trying to decide whether to just decline, ask if they test for weed, or take my chances other than the aforementioned rich people coddling, it exists to weed out people so addicted or stupid that they can't pass a piss test they get to schedule themselves. they're not gonna pull your hairs or anything.
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Jun 25, 2023 05:39
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PokeJoe posted:piss tests are bullshit imo
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Jun 25, 2023 12:10
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PokeJoe posted:piss tests are bullshit imo i’ve never had to do one which may or may not be surprising
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Jun 25, 2023 12:34
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raminasi posted:other than the aforementioned rich people coddling, it exists to weed out people so addicted or stupid that they can't pass a piss test they get to schedule themselves. they're not gonna pull your hairs or anything. i got hair tested for an internship in college. gently caress those people, gently caress that job, gently caress hair tests
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Jun 25, 2023 13:12
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raminasi posted:other than the aforementioned rich people coddling, it exists to weed out people so addicted or stupid that they can't pass a piss test they get to schedule themselves. they're not gonna pull your hairs or anything. it exists to exert control it’s the same kind of reminder that they own your time as the current rto policies
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Jun 25, 2023 14:31
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Is it though? I’ve passed them after taking a three day break and my piss is probably as close to being thc sludge as one can manage since I use it for pain management and sleeping. I have a prescription and would rather not broach it with an employer so not sure if I can get away with failing one or not. Seems like an incredibly low bar though
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Jun 25, 2023 15:19
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does it count as a failure if they see a positive result but decide to hire anyway? i.e. in general can there be a bunch of companies that make you do the test but hire regardless of the actual result? and then another bunch that only makes an offer if you piss clean
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Jun 25, 2023 15:26
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i am a moron posted:Is it though? I’ve passed them after taking a three day break and my piss is probably as close to being thc sludge as one can manage since I use it for pain management and sleeping. I have a prescription and would rather not broach it with an employer so not sure if I can get away with failing one or not. Seems like an incredibly low bar though yeah bud, it’s not about whether you piss hot or cold it’s about a company forcing a candidate to take a semi-invasive test regardless of whether the outcome matters
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Jun 25, 2023 16:21
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no it isn't, it's about insurance and so on. every lovely piece of a system is not actually a mustache-twirling decision made with a clear eye towards being a dick. you sound like a college freshman who just thought about labor relations and power structures for the first time.
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Jun 25, 2023 17:26
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Achmed Jones posted:no it isn't, it's about insurance and so on. every lovely piece of a system is not actually a mustache-twirling decision made with a clear eye towards being a dick. you sound like a college freshman who just thought about labor relations and power structures for the first time. yeah nobody in the hiring chain gives a poo poo about the dignity of workers in either direction. like, maybe some small business is run by a tyrant that requires hair tests for shits and giggles but the people running a nameless megacorp don't even think about individual workers enough to give a poo poo about intentionally humiliating them
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Jun 25, 2023 17:43
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Blinkz0rz posted:yeah bud, it’s not about whether you piss hot or cold it’s about a company forcing a candidate to take a semi-invasive test regardless of whether the outcome matters Achmed Jones posted:no it isn't, it's about insurance and so on. every lovely piece of a system is not actually a mustache-twirling decision made with a clear eye towards being a dick. you sound like a college freshman who just thought about labor relations and power structures for the first time. it's both, btw
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Jun 25, 2023 17:44
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Achmed Jones posted:no it isn't, it's about insurance and so on. every lovely piece of a system is not actually a mustache-twirling decision made with a clear eye towards being a dick. you sound like a college freshman who just thought about labor relations and power structures for the first time. Yep. Medical companies and government contracts especially seem like they want you to have them. My last company drug tested people on hiring and supplied evidence of it as part of the bidding process. My current company is asked for it every now and then, as far as I know it’s usually redlined on our part but I know of at least one contract where you have to piss to be on the account. We do not do drug tests as a requirement for employment, and smoking weed is casually talked about at seemingly all levels so afaik no one really cares.
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Jun 25, 2023 17:47
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the primary reasons are insurance and regulatory stuff. the secondary reason is to weed out people who would balk at it.
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Jun 25, 2023 17:58
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the jobs I've had that didn't drug test me were universally better than the ones that did
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Jun 25, 2023 18:16
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its an epiphenomenon of your relative negotiating positions
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Jun 25, 2023 18:17
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it isn't even consistent that federal contractors always test. twice i've worked as a ca state employee working on contracts for a federal agency in a federal facility. pretty sure the only folks who got drug tested there were bus drivers and maybe the onsite fire department.
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Jun 25, 2023 18:24
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bob dobbs is dead posted:its an epiphenomenon of your relative negotiating positions epissphenomenon
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Jun 25, 2023 19:32
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bob dobbs is dead posted:its an epiphenomenon of your relative negotiating positions but is it colorably so
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Jun 25, 2023 20:32
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bob dobbs is dead posted:its an epiphenomenon of your relative negotiating positions epiphenomenon is stored in the balls
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Jun 25, 2023 21:52
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Sapozhnik posted:but is it colorably so four or less
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Jun 25, 2023 22:44
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bob dobbs is dead posted:its an epiphenomenon of your relative negotiating positions it’s this but without the bdid-ictionary
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Jun 25, 2023 23:25
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echinopsis posted:i’ve never had to do one not surprising. i have only heard of drug tests for jobs in the united states. in canada it is illegal to do drug tests for a job unless it’s directly related to the work, which pretty much means that only heavy equipment operators get tested
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Jun 26, 2023 01:28
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Blinkz0rz posted:it’s this but without the bdid-ictionary oh that one was fine Truman Peyote posted:not surprising. i have only heard of drug tests for jobs in the united states. in canada it is illegal to do drug tests for a job unless it’s directly related to the work, which pretty much means that only heavy equipment operators get tested if the us had this law financial firms would still test their traders for drugs, just the opposite way
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Jun 26, 2023 02:39
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guess who’s back on the menu, girls
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Pollyanna posted:guess who’s back on the menu, girls is this a coming out post?
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Jun 26, 2023 10:22
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it's loving insane that in states it's legal to make you piss in a cup
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Jun 26, 2023 10:39
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Pollyanna posted:guess who’s back on the menu, girls voluntarily or involuntarily?
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Jun 26, 2023 11:12
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either way congratudolences
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Jun 26, 2023 11:12
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goblin week posted:it's loving insane that in states it's legal to make you piss in a cup "before we can let you work here in our very important Customer Excellence Call Center we're gonna need cheek swab to determine your genetic makeup."
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Jun 26, 2023 11:33
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whats everyone using to search for remote jobs these days?
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Jun 26, 2023 16:09
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Mr. Crow posted:whats everyone using to search for remote jobs these days? the internet
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Jun 26, 2023 16:13
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I just filter on LinkedIn for remote and make sure wherever I’m applying doesn’t have any offices near me.
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Jun 26, 2023 16:13
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Mr. Crow posted:whats everyone using to search for remote jobs these days? It's been a while since I've been on the job hunt so maybe I'm missing some stuff. But here's where I've been looking.
Maybe I'm being too harsh by just writing off IT staffing firms completely. I don't know.
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I get tons of first party stuff as a cloud person on LinkedIn. Indeed is a garbage factory. I’d probably use Craigslist before I ever opened that website again
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Jun 26, 2023 17:10
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Maybe I just haven't taken the time to "tune in" my searches on LinkedIn.
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wash bucket posted:Maybe I just haven't taken the time to "tune in" my searches on LinkedIn. It seems to show me the sorts of jobs I easy apply for (which is great and I have an interview for a role this afternoon off an easy apply). My inbox is about 70/30 third party/in-house recruiters though.
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yea i stopped using linkedin a while ago, not worth the spam. i guess i was asking for sites like otta ill check that out, otherwise i've used hackernews monthly job posts mostly successfuly, https://whoishiring.io/ and a couple other random sites ive not actually had luck with.
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KidDynamite posted:voluntarily or involuntarily? voluntarily, i’m officially fed up with my team
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Mr. Crow posted:whats everyone using to search for remote jobs these days? remote jobs don’t exist because i don’t believe any company corporation or business exists that actually trusts an employee they can’t measure via butt-in-chair
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