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Oldsrocket_27 posted:I appreciate the advice. Honestly warmth has been doable in a number of ways for me but durability has been tough. I can get a way with a lot if I rubber band the drive side cuff to stay out of the chainring, but I was hoping that cycling specific pants existed that got around that bit. 
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Is there any reason everyone doesn't use one of those? It looks like it would keep your chain much cleaner.
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Oct 18, 2023 15:24
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Is there any reason everyone doesn't use one of those? It looks like it would keep your chain much cleaner. Because Entropist doesn't ride like most people here do. For example: I want efficient gearing on my bicycles.
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Oct 18, 2023 15:26
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Is there any reason everyone doesn't use one of those? It looks like it would keep your chain much cleaner. The $2350 fee for relinquishment of U.S. citizenship.
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Oct 18, 2023 15:30
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How does it affect gearing?
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Oct 18, 2023 15:30
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Is there any reason everyone doesn't use one of those? It looks like it would keep your chain much cleaner. I don’t wear pants anyway, they can get brittle and snap in cold weather if plastic or rust if metal, or get hosed in a collision. Not really worth paying to maintain for me
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Oct 18, 2023 15:31
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It's because the 150 grams that thing weighs causes an unacceptable time loss preventing you from getting Strava KOMs during your commute. I collide with tourists in the Amsterdam centre regularly and never needed to do any maintenance on the thing. In fact it reduces the amount of chain maintenance that is needed.
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Oct 18, 2023 15:33
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Entropist posted:I collide with tourists in the Amsterdam centre regularly and never needed to do any maintenance on the thing. In fact it reduces the amount of chain maintenance that is needed. totally normal thing to do and say
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Oct 18, 2023 15:38
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Fitzy Fitz posted:How does it affect gearing? You can't use derailer gears either in the front or the back with an enclosed chain case. So you never have to do maintenance on your chain but you also can neither go up hills, nor go fast, and if you do use hub gears it'll feel like pedalling through molasses
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Oct 18, 2023 15:43
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To be clear I'd love to have the kind of commute where a chain case makes sense but instead I'm going to ride over a mountain later while shouting at motorists endangering me, so...
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Oct 18, 2023 15:45
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Mauser posted:totally normal thing to do and say Ask anyone who has to cycle in the Amsterdam center regularly. It's an inevitability because there are hordes of them, they step into the road at random, ignore red lights and they do not know what a bike bell is.
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Oct 18, 2023 15:48
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Mauser posted:totally normal thing to do and say If by normal you mean common, it is actually common for tourists in Amsterdam to get hit, usually at slow speeds, often because they simply jump into the path of a bicycle last second as they aren’t paying attention to anything/don’t think there’s any reason to learn the local standards. I see it happen every time I go and it’s the first thing my BFF who lives there reminds me of when we start biking. If by normal you mean ‘a positive thing and not something to be trying to reduce incidence of’…
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Oh. My commute is pretty easy but I don't think I could do it without gear shifting. It isn't flat for even a second.
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Grassy Knowles posted:If by normal you mean common, it is actually common for tourists in Amsterdam to get hit, usually at slow speeds, often because they simply jump into the path of a bicycle last second as they aren’t paying attention to anything/don’t think there’s any reason to learn the local standards. I see it happen every time I go and it’s the first thing my BFF who lives there reminds me of when we start biking. Our bike paths are red because they have been painted by the blood of the tourists. Of course I also would prefer if they followed traffic rules, collisions are not fun even if your bike is sturdy enough. They also ruin my KOMs...
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Oct 18, 2023 15:55
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When I was bike touring in the Netherlands, on the type of bike Netherlanders calls "normal", it was decent enough on flat straights with no wind, but against a headwind it was meh and the few times we had to go up a hill I cried. And even at the most optimal of times, it was both less comfortable and more work to use than a proper bike, which is a feeling I have despite growing up with the same type of bikes as entropist.
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Entropist posted:Ask anyone who has to cycle in the Amsterdam center regularly. It's an inevitability because there are hordes of them, they step into the road at random, ignore red lights and they do not know what a bike bell is. Sounds like the Dutch are pedaling too fast. You all should slow down a bit and be careful around pedestrians.
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Mauser posted:Sounds like the Dutch are pedaling too fast. You all should slow down a bit and be careful around pedestrians. LOL
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raggedphoto posted:
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I chatted with some mechanics about switching to a belt drive for my HSD since it already has the frame for it and they were like yeah... no.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Is there any reason everyone doesn't use one of those? It looks like it would keep your chain much cleaner. Phosphine posted:And even at the most optimal of times, it was both less comfortable and more work to use than a proper bike, which is a feeling I have despite growing up with the same type of bikes as entropist. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Oct 18, 2023 |
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evil_bunnY posted:They're fiddly, bike model specific, make maintenance more annoying, crack in the sun (or from impacts). Still worth it for a urban/commuter IGH and single speeds. My summer bike has a lacquered chain case, and I think I'm up around 10 years on the same chain. It'd have been more, if I hadn't changed it out when I changed cog sizes. It's still not even on the first notch of my chain wear indicator. It just gets some chain oil whenever I have to open the case. The plastic ones I've worked one aren't that much more trouble than your average Swedish hockey stick chain protector. Either way, they're getting unscrewed before I start feeding chain etc, but the hockey stick doesn't do anything to help chain life.
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Groda posted:My summer bike has a lacquered chain case, and I think I'm up around 10 years on the same chain. It'd have been more, if I hadn't changed it out when I changed cog sizes. It's still not even on the first notch of my chain wear indicator. It just gets some chain oil whenever I have to open the case.
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Since y'all already engaged with them, I guess I'll respond. In the winter they also just fill up with slush while you're riding, and then your whole drivetrainfreezes in place while you work. Plastic ones break from getting brittle in the cold when you try to clean them out. Metal ones won't break as easily but they'll still slush up and rust quickly. That's assuming I could fit one to an old mountain bike. Having boots that I can tuck pants into or tight fitting pants is more practical for the winter commute. This is not a quaint Dutch town: 
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Does anyone have recommendations for good panniers? I'm commuting ~ 6 miles by ebike (specialized Turbo Vado 3.0) in San Diego, so doesn't need to be intensely waterproof. My load is generally pretty light (change of clothes + lunch + occassionally stopping to get some groceries). Also, what do people think of those handlebar mirrors that let you see behind you without turning your head? I've been commuting via bike for years and never had them, but it does feel like not having to take my eyes off the road ahead of me to look behind me would be useful?
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Neurostorm posted:Does anyone have recommendations for good panniers? I'm commuting ~ 6 miles by ebike (specialized Turbo Vado 3.0) in San Diego, so doesn't need to be intensely waterproof. My load is generally pretty light (change of clothes + lunch + occassionally stopping to get some groceries). I've used a few styles. I prefer the mind that clips to my helmet vs. the bar end style.
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Neurostorm posted:Does anyone have recommendations for good panniers? I'm commuting ~ 6 miles by ebike (specialized Turbo Vado 3.0) in San Diego, so doesn't need to be intensely waterproof. My load is generally pretty light (change of clothes + lunch + occassionally stopping to get some groceries). Consider getting a clip-on side pannier and a cheap-rear end basket. I have the basket on the right to protect the chain / gearing. The basket I use is cut to prevent foot strikes, which is a nice feature: https://www.basil.com/en/tour-left-single-pannier-bag-black.html I don't think Basil sells very much in the US, though. Groda fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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Neurostorm posted:Also, what do people think of those handlebar mirrors that let you see behind you without turning your head? I've been commuting via bike for years and never had them, but it does feel like not having to take my eyes off the road ahead of me to look behind me would be useful? My partner's new ebike came with a bar-end mirror we installed on the left side and it owns. It's nice being able to see cars before they buzz you and having extra visibility when you take the lane. It makes the bars annoyingly wide, but you can fold it in when you're not using it.
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Neurostorm posted:Does anyone have recommendations for good panniers? I'm commuting ~ 6 miles by ebike (specialized Turbo Vado 3.0) in San Diego, so doesn't need to be intensely waterproof. My load is generally pretty light (change of clothes + lunch + occassionally stopping to get some groceries)
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evil_bunnY posted:Whatever ortlieb fits your needs. One of my ortlieb panniers came with two female clips instead of a female and male and so it is incompatible with the shoulder strap it shipped with, no response from their support. The panniers are great otherwise but that chuffs me for such a pricey product.
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Grassy Knowles posted:One of my ortlieb panniers came with two female clips instead of a female and male and so it is incompatible with the shoulder strap it shipped with, no response from their support. The panniers are great otherwise but that chuffs me for such a pricey product.
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evil_bunnY posted:Whatever ortlieb fits your needs. We need to teach Americans that it's literally legal to buy something other than Ortlieb.
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I have a waterproof Vaude brand pannier bag that I'm very happy with. IIRC it was similar in price to an ortlieb but they had one in the color I wanted in stock locally.
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Neurostorm posted:Also, what do people think of those handlebar mirrors that let you see behind you without turning your head? I've been commuting via bike for years and never had them, but it does feel like not having to take my eyes off the road ahead of me to look behind me would be useful? I picked up Trieye glasses with an integrated mirror. It's a bit fiddly at the start of a ride, but gets me eye protection and more awareness in one device. There's another set of glasses from Britain that aren't adjustable but have a bigger mirror surface.
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Groda posted:We need to teach Americans that it's literally legal to buy something other than Ortlieb.
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My current pair of (UK) winter gloves are falling apart. Does anyone have recommendations for cold/wet weather gloves for temps between 4 and 10C? My budget is <40 quid.
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Entropist posted:Only Berlin hipsters and foreigners use those here. Get something that's sturdy and good value for money like Basil, or perhaps Dutch Mountains if you're feeling fancy. That way you aren't mainly paying for someone's advertising campaign. Making everyone buy that expensive Ortlieb stuff is a great way to increase the barrier to entry of bike commuting. Don’t know why you think ortlieb are expensive, they’re cheaper than any other fully waterproof panniers as far as I’m aware. Hard to buy a decent rucksack for less certainly. AfricanBootyShine posted:My current pair of (UK) winter gloves are falling apart. Does anyone have recommendations for cold/wet weather gloves for temps between 4 and 10C? My budget is <40 quid. I have some Shimano ones that are great, albeit the waterproof coating is not as good as it was. I got them from Decathlon, go have a look there imo for that price range. Other good cheap stuff is at Galibier.cc. I didn’t like their deep winter gloves, but they have Ardennes light winter ones that might be good for you. That said, for anything outside of very long wet rides on the colder side, I’d wear the nice cheap Galibier Roubaix gloves. I hear good things about Castelli Perfetto RoS ones, though they’re pricy.
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wooger posted:Don’t know why you think ortlieb are expensive, they’re cheaper than any other fully waterproof panniers as far as I’m aware. Hard to buy a decent rucksack for less certainly. There's cheaper waterproof options, tho the price variation isn't huge (at least in the US). I find Ortlieb to be the thickest and most durable I've experienced. It's not just marketing -- all that extra weight does make a difference. But I would argue that it's not necessary depending on your commute.
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I once filled 2 Ortlieb panniers with heavy used car parts that I to a shop for repair, I was certain they would tear but they held up just fine. There maybe cheaper/better options but it's hard to argue with their track record.
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I've had axiom panniers for like 15 years now and they've held up great, but they cost about as much as ortlieb now. The problem is that everything bicycle-related in the US has to have an insane markup on it in order to bilk middle-aged freds ( ) so there really isn't much of a cheaper alternative. Is there a recommended model for amazon/aliexpress allcaps panniers?
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Groda posted:We need to teach Americans that it's literally legal to buy something other than Ortlieb.
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wooger posted:Don’t know why you think ortlieb are expensive, they’re cheaper than any other fully waterproof panniers as far as I’m aware. Hard to buy a decent rucksack for less certainly.
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