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infernal machines posted:it would be useful for a lot of what i use my laptop for, which is remote connections to other things  It would be still much easier to use an actual laptop though.
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microsoft: we know what's consumer hostile about the os, and we'll remove it if legally required to. but anyone outside of the eea can eat poo poo and like it
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Nov 16, 2023 21:56
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thank the heavens. i will start the parallel eu microsoft thread where we're basically happy about things once delivered
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Nov 16, 2023 22:00
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it's just so baldfaced though. like, yes, this is the os we want, and you clearly can make it. and you know this, and somehow it's being reserved for the threat of all of europe jamming a boot up your rear end instead of just selling us the thing we want to buy from you
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Nov 16, 2023 22:10
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you had me at bald
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infernal machines posted:it's just so baldfaced though. like, yes, this is the os we want, and you clearly can make it. and you know this, and somehow it's being reserved for the threat of all of europe jamming a boot up your rear end instead of just selling us the thing we want to buy from you i love all the consumer protections we don't have in the usa.
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Nov 16, 2023 22:19
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I dont think anyone thought there was a technical reason they couldnt remove it. its always been there to generate fake engagement with bing to juice their numbers.
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Nov 16, 2023 22:21
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quote:Windows will now "always use customers' configured app default settings for link and file types" oh, loving word?
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Nov 16, 2023 22:25
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so how is it going to work. will it be able to use a vpn to activate a euro copy of windows. or will it constantly check your locale. presumably leading to the situation where a European travelling to the us will have an enormous windows update pushed to them enabling all that awful poo poo
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Nov 16, 2023 22:35
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literally just set your locale to any eea nation during the oobe and you get the options
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Nov 16, 2023 22:36
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apparently the old "hack" was to set the locale to english (world) which broke some string format and prevented windows from connecting to any of the cloud backend bullshit
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Nov 16, 2023 22:38
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Jenny Agutter posted:so how is it going to work. will it be able to use a vpn to activate a euro copy of windows. or will it constantly check your locale. presumably leading to the situation where a European travelling to the us will have an enormous windows update pushed to them enabling all that awful poo poo EU rules apply to EU citizens worldwide, so that'd be a crime this is why you get the cookie notices on US sites
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infernal machines posted:literally just set your locale to any eea nation during the oobe and you get the options what’s the catch? certain services you can’t use like gamep rear end or smth?
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Nov 16, 2023 22:44
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if you do use anything with a microsoft account it'll probably be broken in some way, but idk. i think the account's service location overrides the windows region
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infernal machines posted:apparently the old "hack" was to set the locale to english (world) which broke some string format and prevented windows from connecting to any of the cloud backend bullshit
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Jenny Agutter posted:what’s the catch? certain services you can’t use like gamep rear end or smth? dates and text get all hosed up
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infernal machines posted:it's just so baldfaced though. like, yes, this is the os we want, and you clearly can make it. and you know this, and somehow it's being reserved for the threat of all of europe jamming a boot up your rear end instead of just selling us the thing we want to buy from you 100% agreed. i am mostly real happy in that every time one of those bullshit "maybe you want to take all of our defaults?" showed up i thought "i should be a responsible person and sue over this". and presumably someone did, and honestly all the world should follow the eu on these particular matters. and probably will in time.
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Nov 17, 2023 01:52
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mobby_6kl posted:You can already use RDP from a phone i know? i didn't say it doesn't exist, it just sucks to use and that's not going to change just because it's another app
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I once had to do some stuff from my phone over rdp using a Bluetooth foldable keyboard and I wanted to shoot myself
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Nov 17, 2023 03:28
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it's one of those things that's kinda wild that you can do and also you should never, ever do it because the entire experience is terrible
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Nov 17, 2023 04:34
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dont webtop shame
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Nov 17, 2023 04:34
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infernal machines posted:microsoft: windows, the app This (fairly poor) article implies that you can connect to your home PC with this. Any truth to that? Does it take care of punching a hole in your firewall/NAT using MS services as a reverse proxy or anything interesting?
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No. If you go to the actual documentation its just a rebrand of the existing Azure rdp clients
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its actually even dumber than that. The windows app is just a webview2 wrapper around the web version and the ios/osx version is the same but w/e a safari webview except the ios/osx versions also get an unsupported normal RDP client that can be used to connect to local remote desktops just like every other native rdp client. That means the windows version cant do rdp, the osx/ios version can, but its not supported, and both can open a webview to https://windows.cloud.microsoft to connect to azure remote desktops. Shaggar fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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looks like the Entra rename wasn't quite comprehensive enough and Active Directory lives on: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/domain-services/compare-identity-solutionsquote:Compare self-managed Active Directory Domain Services, Microsoft Entra ID, and managed Microsoft Entra Domain Services
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i thought the on premise active directory would keep the same name and Entra was just the new name for everything related to identity services in the cloud because "azure ad" made people confused
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Shaggar posted:No. If you go to the actual documentation its just a rebrand of the existing Azure rdp clients bah, I hate that client. If you install it from the Windows App Store you don't get the same experience as via the .msi plus it leaves random processes in the background, and if you don't hunt them out and kill them you won't be able to reconnect to your VDI (thanks)
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distortion park posted:looks like the Entra rename wasn't quite comprehensive enough and Active Directory lives on: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/domain-services/compare-identity-solutions yeah, entra is just the cloud-side, because using the azure branding was somehow worse? r u ready to WALK posted:i thought the on premise active directory would keep the same name and Entra was just the new name for everything related to identity services in the cloud because "azure ad" made people confused it is. active directory branding is just for the on-prem product. since you can have both in hybrid scenarios and the cloud services do a bunch of auth management stuff ad doesn't, i guess they needed some differentiation not like it makes it any easier to tell though, they've had three different brands since this poo poo began and their documentation mixes them liberally infernal machines fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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lmfao. just working on a client desktop with windows 11, had to enable focus mode to quiet the literally non-stop notifications very convieniently preventing me from interacting with anything in the notification area five minutes later, there's a notification congratulating me on "completing five minutes of focus" and asking if i'd like to continue. you couldn't parody this poo poo.
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infernal machines posted:lmfao. just working on a client desktop with windows 11, had to enable focus mode to quiet the literally non-stop notifications very convieniently preventing me from interacting with anything in the notification area
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Look Microsoft Operating Systems suck but what do you expect from a free product?
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it's not even free anymore. they stopped accepting windows 7/10 keys with the 23h2 release afaik
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infernal machines posted:yeah, entra is just the cloud-side, because using the azure branding was somehow worse? I got quite confused reading the article I linked because in these paras quote:With Domain Services, the core service components are deployed and maintained for you by Microsoft as a managed domain experience. You don't deploy, manage, patch, and secure the AD DS infrastructure for components like the VMs, Windows Server OS, or domain controllers (DCs). The words "Domains Services" do not refer to the product called "Active Directory Domain Services"
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ah, yes, DS which is not interoperable with AD DS
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gotta get that focus cheevo!
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infernal machines posted:it's not even free anymore. they stopped accepting windows 7/10 keys with the 23h2 release afaik 1. Download any evaluation version of windows off Microsoft’s website. 2. Bing for “how to change evaluation version of windows sku” and do whatever it says. It should not require any tools that don’t come with any evaluation version of windows. I assume this is in case you evaluate windows and somehow decide you’d like to continue using it. 3. Download KMS server emulator from Microsoft owned github and follow the readme.md directions to install it on your pihole, plex server, or fancy soho network device. It’s maybe even possible to install on your phone. I assume KMS has something to do with Windows NT being a spiritual successor to VMS. 4. Bing for “How to activate windows with kms server”. This should also not require any tools that do not come with windows. I’m pretty sure Microsoft is ok with this and it’s the intended way to use their products. This is a lot of work but installing any primitive free operating system usually is. Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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Internet Old One posted:1. Download any evaluation version of windows how to activate windows and make me want to KMS
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Shaggar posted:dates and text get all hosed up 
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