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Bobby Deluxe posted:Taking bets this is where the freeports will be announced. Tees was already announced as that by johnson when he first floated the idea.
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Incredible if they ride this out tbh
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# ? Sep 28, 2022 23:03 |
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https://twitter.com/POLITLCSUK/status/1575229502455975936
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:That looks like a natural trumpet, among the flexiest instruments
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The benefits understander has logged on (to twitter). https://twitter.com/LewisDAdams/status/1575236325053452288
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# ? Sep 28, 2022 23:24 |
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forkboy84 posted:I'm saying that with his background Kwarteng knows what he's doing. I understood this to be your point and I disagree with it - if you think this is an intentional consequence of his plan then the only way it makes sense is a form of bizarre accelerationism. There are far more lasting ways to reduce the state down, namely through cutting spending first, and if the aim was to funnel money to investors in various funds then this is an amazingly poor execution of it. The thing to remember is that the reduction of the state is not the end goal - he isn’t a sovereign citizen libertarian - it is a means to the end of wealth consolidation, and by that standard he’s basically decided that shooting the goose in the head will result in a golden egg tree growing from the corpse.
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# ? Sep 28, 2022 23:33 |
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:That looks like a natural trumpet, among the flexiest instruments Not quite sure why the post horn gallop is always played on coach horns instead, even in Germany where they have a tradition of playing post horns as instruments (and putting them on the Deutsche Post flags and logos). Only Kindness posted:The benefits understander has logged on (to twitter). Guavanaut posted:Every time someone suggests it the comments are full of the most outraged Englishmen shouting about how single mothers are popping out kids to get free houses.
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# ? Sep 28, 2022 23:36 |
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The ideal brass instrument is the tromboon, an instrument that combines the bassoon and the trombone and has all the disadvantages of both. Sounds kind of like being run over by a speeding truck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4x7xZO4YUE
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Hobo posted:I understood this to be your point and I disagree with it - if you think this is an intentional consequence of his plan then the only way it makes sense is a form of bizarre accelerationism. There are far more lasting ways to reduce the state down, namely through cutting spending first, and if the aim was to funnel money to investors in various funds then this is an amazingly poor execution of it. His donors placed bets against gilts and GBP after he became chancellor, I don't think anyone is arguing this is the culmination of a decades long ideological project to end the welfare state but that it makes sense because he's leveraging his position for personal gain ;The OBR member and former BoE honcho who was saying "drat we won't be able to afford our revenue-positive healthcare model" is the one doing an ideology
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OwlFancier posted:The ideal brass instrument is the tromboon, an instrument that combines the bassoon and the trombone and has all the disadvantages of both. I'd call it a woodwind, because any instrument with a reed is conventionally defined by the reed over the body. But I understand why both groups of players would be keen to assign it to the other.
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Spangly A posted:His donors placed bets against gilts and GBP after he became chancellor, I don't think anyone is arguing this is the culmination of a decades long ideological project to end the welfare state but that it makes sense because he's leveraging his position for personal gain I mean it’s tens of thousands of pounds in exchange for a permanent reputation as a total gently caress up, if he is doing this move for that small personal gain then we can probably fundraise a bigger amount to get him to stop. Like he literally could have just done a couple of dinner talks for more money than that. If you really think his moves are for personal gain then there’s a million other ways he could have done this for more gain. I know there’s a perception that Tories are largely in this for looting the state but the reality is that if you just care about money then the access you need to become a Tory MP, much less a minister, would already get you to a far better paying job. At some level this is an ego/legacy incentive, and fundamentally pretty much every minister across all parties will think that their actions are making the country better, for wildly varied and often deluded definitions of what “better” is. Hobo fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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Hobo posted:I mean it’s tens of thousands of pounds in exchange for a permanent reputation as a total gently caress up, if he is doing this move for that small personal gain then we can probably fundraise a bigger amount to get him to stop. It's a mid six figure salary, for 7 hours a month, for the rest of his life, as soon as he's taken enough of a beating that his resignation is strategically useful. And while you and I see "fuckup", bankers and MPs see "team player". Chris Grayling is never out of work long. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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Also like, our MPs have no sense of scale for bribes. £4k will buy you any backbencher and some ministers
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Spangly A posted:It's a mid six figure salary, for 7 hours a month, for the rest of his life, as soon as he's taken enough of a beating that his resignation is strategically useful. And while you and I see "fuckup", bankers and MPs see "team player". Chris Grayling is never out of work long. What team do you think he’s playing on that the entire City is calling for him to stop, including MPs? And calling for the BoE to do anything counter it? Like I get that often what’s good for the City is bad for the general public, but this is just bad for everyone.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 00:04 |
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I think a slight caveat to the idea that you need "access" to be an MP/Minister is somewhat diluted by the fact that the tories have been scraping the bottom of the barrel since cameron left and this is literally the people who were too stupid/worthless to get a shot in the last several rounds of succession.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 00:10 |
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Hobo posted:What team do you think he’s playing on that the entire City is calling for him to stop, including MPs? And calling for the BoE to do anything counter it? Like I get that often what’s good for the City is bad for the general public, but this is just bad for everyone. The team of multi billionaire hedge fund owner and donor and former boss of his, Crispen odey, who is openly bragging about it, would be my guess Gideon Osbourne got up to, what, seven different 6 figure salaries after being chancellor? Kwarteng might look unbelievably cheap by comparison but you've still got people below him like Daniel Kawczynski (no relation) crying to unsympathetic ears about how Putin won't even offer him a Russia today guest spot. Politicians in England are really cheap. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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Spangly A posted:The team of multi billionaire hedge fund owner and donor and former boss of his, Crispen odey, who is openly bragging about it, would be my guess I think you’re vastly overestimating the personal gain from the approach he’s taken here against a massive range of options that would involve the usual suspects getting money, as opposed to a hedge fund that knew how big of an idiot he really is and decided to bet on that. All these post government positions require, at the very least one of: Hiring the person gives prestige Hiring the person gives access Hiring the person gives inside knowledge At the moment he’s going 0/3, with a poor chance of lasting long enough to change that. Being the dude that you can give £10k in order to gently caress up and piss everyone off is not the stunning company investment you might think is automatic with any minister. Edit: you think he’s going to be Osborne or Grayling - he’s not, he’s going to be Hancock. Hobo fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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JackChat: they once promised to send me a recipe book for my local food bank and it never arrived. I never mentioned it before because it may not have been Jack's fault. But I wonder if it's a pattern of not following through.
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Hobo posted:I think you’re vastly overestimating the personal gain from the approach he’s taken here against a massive range of options that would involve the usual suspects getting money, as opposed to a hedge fund that knew how big of an idiot he really is and decided to bet on that. All these post government positions require, at the very least one of: Im fine if you don't agree but I genuinely do think ministers are that cheap and the ones that do take up bullshit consultancies after sweetheart deals get away with it just fine. The bit where "does he know what he's doing" is harder is that I think he knows he's loving the pound on purpose, I don't think he is even capable of comprehending the difference between what he's doing and what Ed Davey did.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 00:31 |
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Just saw this on reddit which gives an overview/explanation of what happened today re pension funds: ELI5 = "explain like I'm 5" quote:Quick ELI5 on why the BOE intervened today and what it has to do with pension funds. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/xqkfc1/quick_eli5_on_why_the_boe_intervened_today_and/
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 00:46 |
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i was on the korean air flight thst clipped the other plane ask me anything
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bump_fn posted:i was on the korean air flight thst clipped the other plane ask me anything Was it scary? Did you know what happened before you got off?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Was it scary? Did you know what happened before you got off? i didn’t notice anything at collision so i assume it was on the other side of the plane it was scary once the plane was surrounded by fire trucks and cops and poo poo and we were still on. at first they told us to leave with just our passports but i was enough in the back that we were told to go back and get all our stuff so i didn’t have to wait for them to unload all my carry one also i’m flying with my cat which made it extra insane
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bump_fn posted:i didn’t notice anything at collision so i assume it was on the other side of the plane Was puss in the hold or in the cabin?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Was puss in the hold or in the cabin? cabin thank god otherwise i would have for sure lost it
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bump_fn posted:cabin thank god otherwise i would have for sure lost it christ
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 01:58 |
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6th, which is why you can't afford it anymore.
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Lady Demelza posted:JackChat: they once promised to send me a recipe book for my local food bank and it never arrived. I never mentioned it before because it may not have been Jack's fault. But I wonder if it's a pattern of not following through. I'm afraid that you are not alone in that, at least it was only a gift? She got quite aggressive with her Kickstarter backers when they complained about not receiving theirs. https://twitter.com/saxena_puru/status/1575309586453536768?s=20
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Lady Demelza posted:JackChat: they once promised to send me a recipe book for my local food bank and it never arrived. I never mentioned it before because it may not have been Jack's fault. But I wonder if it's a pattern of not following through. Anecdotal, but we have a couple of their books and never had a problem other than delays on the first one due to miscalculation of just how much effort was involved. Could be just bad luck on your part.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 06:44 |
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Not at this rate.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 07:27 |
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Presumably rumblings will start about a rebellion on the “mini” Budget itself? When will it be voted on? Obviously it will pass, but how many Tory rebels would be enough to have some ramifications on the rest of Truss’s agenda?
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 08:22 |
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Truss sounded like her normal, robot lunatic self in the interviews. Refused to admit any mistakes, nothing will be reversed, complete lack of audible empathy for those suffering etc. Can't say as I expected anything else. Bond markets taking it 'well'. If I was a Tory MP I'd be lining up my next do-nothing directorship ASAP. Like I said, I genuinely think she'll be out by Christmas if nothing changes.
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https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1575387454034640896
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 08:33 |
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https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1575087200882102274?s=19 Jesus Christ
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 08:36 |
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Uttering the phrase 'radical centre' should be punishable by death. Much as I hate, hate, hate what Keith is doing in terms of styling himself The Real, Actual Heir To Blair, I'd still take a Labour government in a loving *heartbeat* over the current band of deranged ideologues. Listening to Truss this morning it is very clear that a *lot* of people are going to properly needlessly suffer until she and her fellow cultists are removed from power.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 08:44 |
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Yeah I was debating internally who I would vote for or if I would bother in the next GE but jesus loving christ
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 08:58 |
Nothing will ever make me vote for Keir Starmer's Labour.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 09:10 |
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Yeah I obviously won't be voting tory, but I've no positive reason to vote labour. The next Labour government will complete the privatisation of the NHS and the 'soft left' will defend it.
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# ? Sep 29, 2022 09:17 |
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I keep trying to look for positive reasons and they keep expending effort to make sure that any of those reasons are snuffed out.
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josh04 posted:This should be pretty funny because Truss clearly thinks these will be podunk nowhere journalists bowled over by getting to talk to the PM, when it's even odds that they're decent journalists frozen out of the london clique whose rear end-kissing she apparently considers insufficient. lol. lmao. https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1575395660018368514
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