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Khorne
May 1, 2002

Goonstone Champ x2

Leon Einstein posted:

Yeah forcibly fondling genitals is the same as touching a boob.

You are a dumbfuck. Read the police report. He molested his sisters over a long period of time. He molested a 6 year old as a teen. How is that playing doctor?

Edit: I guess you'd rather not read the bad parts because it conflicts with your worldview.
My world view is he did dumb poo poo as a minor, is now an adult, and has not done it since doing it as a minor. Minors should not be held to the same standard as adults, and holding something against someone that they did when they were a minor is a foolish, emotionally charged response to a situation.

edit: I didn't even know who the Duggars were before this thread.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 22, 2015

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Casimir Radon
Aug 1, 2008



If you're that sexually confused at age 14 perhaps your parent's child rearing model is a little hosed up.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005

[A]sk me about OS/2 WARP


Khorne posted:

My world view is he did dumb poo poo as a minor, is now an adult, and has not done it since doing it as a minor. Minors should not be held to the same standard as adults, and holding something against someone that they did when they were a minor is a foolish, emotionally charged response to a situation.

looooll their tactic worked 100%
child rape is now legal if you are a christian and can keep it under wraps till your 18th

Ruddha
Jan 21, 2006

when you realize how cool and retarded everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky

after this and the lena dunham thing and the support they get im beginning to think theres something wrong with me for only kissing ppl who consented to it and who weren't related to me. im so hosed up

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

Khorne posted:

My world view is he did dumb poo poo as a minor, is now an adult, and has not done it since doing it as a minor. Minors should not be held to the same standard as adults, and holding something against someone that they did when they were a minor is a foolish, emotionally charged response to a situation.

edit: I didn't even know who the Duggars were before this thread.
Guess what 14 year old child molesters grow up to be? Child molesters.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006

Was ist das problem fraulein?


Jonny 290 posted:

looooll their tactic worked 100%
child rape is now legal if you are a christian and can keep it under wraps till your 18th

we probably shouldn't be treating children like fully capable adults. that said, every duggar should die. we canstart with the rape man if it makes you happy, but they all must die.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

hemophilia posted:

we probably shouldn't be treating children like fully capable adults. that said, every duggar should die. we canstart with the rape man if it makes you happy, but they all must die.

Fyi, he got caught molesting again at 17.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012


Ruddha posted:

after this and the lena dunham thing and the support they get im beginning to think theres something wrong with me for only kissing ppl who consented to it and who weren't related to me. im so hosed up

true

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless


rape is bad

rapists are bad

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008
VAGINA AVOIDER; LEADER OF THE BIBLE STUDY GROUP; WETTEST BLANKET


why didn't he just gently caress his mattress like a normal 14 year old boi

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

There is no route out of the maze. The maze shifts as you move through it, because it is alive.




Casimir Radon posted:

If you're that sexually confused at age 14 perhaps your parent's child rearing model is a little hosed up.

As has been said, the Duggars subscribe to "blanket training" for their children. Google that and try to hold back tears.

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.


Ruddha posted:

after this and the lena dunham thing and the support they get im beginning to think theres something wrong with me for only kissing ppl who consented to it and who weren't related to me. im so hosed up

at least you kissed people a little, you're halfway there basically. if you have siblings i guess just hope that they have cool children.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

Goonstone Champ x2

Leon Einstein posted:

Guess what 14 year old child molesters grow up to be? Child molesters.
Much like 14 year old murders, thieves, and rapists.

It's a hyperbole fueled view of the situation that assumes the reason he did it was because he is attracted to children or molesting children. If he molests a child then lock him up forever, but to hold the actions of a minor in a bad situation against them ignores that we all did dumb poo poo or held dumb thoughts/views as minors that have no relation to how we think or behave as adults. Maybe I had a hosed up childhood, but my behavior prior to when I was 15,16 was almost entirely driven by an antagonistic environment I was forced to be in and had no control over. None of it had anything to do with molesting or sexual anything in my case, but it's not much of a stretch to see how it could for someone else.

Leon Einstein posted:

Fyi, he got caught molesting again at 17.
Then I hope he goes to jail.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:14 on May 22, 2015

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005

[A]sk me about OS/2 WARP


hemophilia posted:

we probably shouldn't be treating children like fully capable adults.

Ah. So, jim bob and michelle can treat their kids like mini-parents for the younger children (a 100% proven and documented phenomenon) and they're treated like adults then. But if they molest their sibling, they're supposed to be treated like a kid until they're nearly 30 with four children, at which time they should be treated like an adult who did something as a kid and should be treated as such. But if the girls were to go out and meet a guy and want to have _consensual_ sex they're just a little innocent kid and can't make those decision. But when they're forgiving their brother for molesting them, they're acting like an adult.

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.


The Fattest PI posted:

why didn't he just gently caress his mattress like a normal 14 year old boi

that's what he was doing while getting his grope on if my own life experience is anything to go by

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

There is no route out of the maze. The maze shifts as you move through it, because it is alive.




Jonny 290 posted:

Ah. So, jim bob and michelle can treat their kids like mini-parents for the younger children (a 100% proven and documented phenomenon) and they're treated like adults then. But if they molest their sibling, they're supposed to be treated like a kid until they're nearly 30 with four children, at which time they should be treated like an adult who did something as a kid and should be treated as such. But if the girls were to go out and meet a guy and want to have _consensual_ sex they're just a little innocent kid and can't make those decision. But when they're forgiving their brother for molesting them, they're acting like an adult.

I say, you're catching on.

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Oct 15, 2014



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Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

Khorne posted:

Much like 14 year old murders, thieves, and rapists.

It's a hyperbole fueled view of the situation that assumes the reason he did it was because he is attracted to children or molesting children. If he molests a child then lock him up forever, but to hold the actions of a minor in a bad situation against them ignores that we all did dumb poo poo or held dumb thoughts/views as minors that have no relation to how we think or behave as adults. Maybe I had a hosed up childhood, but my behavior prior to when I was 15,16 was almost entirely driven by an antagonistic environment I was forced to be in and had no control over.
Then I hope he goes to jail.

You can't blame fingerbanging toddlers on your environment bro

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It's really shaping up that way because of the water types.


imagine if it was touching another boy

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006

Was ist das problem fraulein?


Jonny 290 posted:

Ah. So, jim bob and michelle can treat their kids like mini-parents for the younger children (a 100% proven and documented phenomenon) and they're treated like adults then. But if they molest their sibling, they're supposed to be treated like a kid until they're nearly 30 with four children, at which time they should be treated like an adult who did something as a kid and should be treated as such. But if the girls were to go out and meet a guy and want to have _consensual_ sex they're just a little innocent kid and can't make those decision. But when they're forgiving their brother for molesting them, they're acting like an adult.

I'm actually okay with following the law on this one, where you're generally accountable for things at 18.

Older kids raising younger kids in large families is something that happens. My mother raised her two youngest brothers and that was just her and four other kids. And yes, taking care of the needs of children is something you're capable of before you're a fully grown adult. Not that you should have to, but feeding, changing, putting them to bed, helping the older ones with tutoring. Did you never babysit for family members?

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It's really shaping up that way because of the water types.


I wonder how the duggars told the little girls who were molested it was her fault

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

There should still be consequences for things done before you're an adult though. This guy had to go hang out with a cop that is now in prison for child porn. Seriously.

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001



Khorne posted:

And the report also states he also didn't do it after he told his parents

i mean, i know you said you didn't read the report, which makes sense because it is upsetting to read about an incestuous molestation, but that's not what the report states. but don't let that get in the way of defending incestuous molestation

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005

[A]sk me about OS/2 WARP


lol no, because my mom got her tubes tied after two kids because that's what she could reasonably raise herself and she is not a literally mentally ill delusional prairie woman attempting to raise an army of god warriors because <INSERT UNSPECIFIED DECADENT SECULAR BADTHING HERE> no i never helped raise my younger brother. we played together. i was never responsible for his well-being

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001



Mel Mudkiper posted:

imagine if it was touching another boy

gross!

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014



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Khorne
May 1, 2002

Goonstone Champ x2

Mr. Pumroy posted:

i mean, i know you said you didn't read the report, which makes sense because it is upsetting to read about an incestuous molestation, but that's not what the report states. but don't let that get in the way of defending incestuous molestation
No one is defending his actions, just that people are going to label him as something as an adult over a report of something that happened when he was a minor.

It's all pointless debate if he did that poo poo again when he was 17 as one poster claimed.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012


having two first names is equal to rape imo

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It's really shaping up that way because of the water types.


over/under on many duggar children could the fat mom from Honey Boo fight at once before she was overwhelmed by their sheer numbers

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.



Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

Khorne posted:

No one is defending his actions, just that people are going to label him as something as an adult over a report of something that happened when he was a minor.

It's all pointless debate if he did that poo poo again when he was 17 as one poster claimed.
Being sexually attracted to a 6 year old makes you a pedophile, even if you are only 15.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012


Mel Mudkiper posted:

over/under on many duggar children could the fat mom from Honey Boo fight at once before she was overwhelmed by their sheer numbers
mama june could take them all

Khorne
May 1, 2002

Goonstone Champ x2

Leon Einstein posted:

Being sexually attracted to a 6 year old makes you a pedophile, even if you are only 15.
Thanks for the statement of facts that no one is contesting.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

Khorne posted:

Thanks for the statement of facts that no one is contesting.

I'm pretty sure you said nobody should be labeled for something they did as a minor.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee



Why would he post this? What's the upside of 'supporting' a dysfunctional family? I mean he wrote ALOT of words, and could've said "Sorry to hear about the Duggar situation. Deeply sadned." or some poo poo.

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001



Darth123123 posted:

Why would he post this? What's the upside of 'supporting' a dysfunctional family? I mean he wrote ALOT of words, and could've said "Sorry to hear about the Duggar situation. Deeply sadned." or some poo poo.

when you're on the internet all you do is

Khorne
May 1, 2002

Goonstone Champ x2

Leon Einstein posted:

I'm pretty sure you said nobody should be labeled for something they did as a minor.
Calling someone a child molester when they themselves were a child is pretty dishonest.

Calling someone a pedo because they are attracted to children when they are not in a similar age group is accurate.

Anyhow, I didn't know the girl was 6. The police report and media coverage made it sound like 11-14 year old boy touches sisters in similar age group. Which is messed up, I had sisters and never touched them or looked at them like that, but it's still very different from what actually happened.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 22, 2015

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It's really shaping up that way because of the water types.


Darth123123 posted:

Why would he post this? What's the upside of 'supporting' a dysfunctional family? I mean he wrote ALOT of words, and could've said "Sorry to hear about the Duggar situation. Deeply sadned." or some poo poo.

the duggars have been the poster family of making insane rightwing christian poo poo palatable to middle america so expect a lot of circled wagons over this

Bethamphetamine
Oct 29, 2012




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I'm glad the Duggers immediately forced their teenage sexual predator son into counseling with an accredited professional, in the hope that he would not grow into an adult sexual predator. I'm glad the son didn't have a vast support network of people hiding his abuse and excusing his actions.

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Apr 22, 2007
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