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Oh man this other company that gave me an offer is not taking the turn-down well. They wanted me to jump on a call to tell me they reworked the role to better suit what I'm looking for, they know I'm going to excel, the contract is just temporary and then they want to bring me on full time, I'm the answer to their problems, so on. Sorry guys, a lot of people want me to work for them, it's not going to happen though.
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Darchangel posted:As a tech worker who is now 48, this scares the ever living poo poo out of me. It basically says that no matter what I learn or how current I keep my skills, simply being old is reason to not hire. Now imagine being old, not white and not male as well. I am also glad that by the time we go commercial, I will no longer be in a position where I have to deal with the field sales reps tickets. Never met a sales person that wasn't a dickhead when it came to interactions with IT. Even at the business systems analysis level on projects, always been jerks.
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I have an interview! First one in probably three years or so. I am very excited - I have a couple friends in HR at this place and they always speak highly of the IT group there. The HR guy seemed really nice on the phone, we already talked salary and it's well within my expectations, and it's even closer to home - my commute is about 12 minutes right now, this will drop it to like, 6. The only issue is that it's got a heavier networking component than what I'm used to. So I've decided to cram my way to a CCENT in the next few months, using Lynda.com (free with my library card!) and then aim for a CCNA by the end of the year. How hard is the CCENT/CCNA for a guy that's done MCITP, CEH (lol), and has 8 years of SysAdmin experience in Windows? I'm dogshit at subnetting and I can only remember the OSI model with a mnemonic, so that's a start.
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Mar 23, 2018 22:06
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Antioch posted:my commute is about 12 minutes right now, this will drop it to like, 6. I don't think you get to call either of these a commute
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Darchangel posted:As a tech worker who is now 48, this scares the ever living poo poo out of me. It basically says that no matter what I learn or how current I keep my skills, simply being old is reason to not hire. I was just having this conversation with my manager a few weeks ago. I was saying how I didn’t ever want to go into management because I’d rather not be responsible for other people. She’s probably 15 years older than me and she got really serious and was like “I don’t want to manage people either but it’s basically insurance against being phased out for someone younger”. This is a smart lady who has a ton of technical experience and is now heading up a cloud architecture team. She still gets her hands dirty and is always learning new things. But it put it in perspective because I’ve never viewed management in that way.
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It’s mistakenly assumed that everyone who’s experienced is good fit for management.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Oh man this other company that gave me an offer is not taking the turn-down well. They wanted me to jump on a call to tell me they reworked the role to better suit what I'm looking for, they know I'm going to excel, the contract is just temporary and then they want to bring me on full time, I'm the answer to their problems, so on. If they wanted you they would have brought you on full time from the start. That is exactly one of the things I would have told them.
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Between all of us who switched jobs this year I wonder who will have a major gripe first. Probably me because I'm a queen. This place has crazy security standards due to client requirements - it's actually amazing seeing a large IT infrastructure actually adhere to this amount of red tape. Haven't even heard a whisper of someone using backdoor access. Most interesting thing so far is an air gapped offsite backup that uses a random timer to turn up a p2p link and kick off incremental backups. Never seen that before.
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Sickening posted:If they wanted you they would have brought you on full time from the start. That is exactly one of the things I would have told them. I was brokered into the interview by a recruiter. The company is now held to the 6 month initial contract because they can't go around the recruiter. It's still 6 months of hour+ commute with benefits coming out of my hourly, which no thanks for three kids at home.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I was brokered into the interview by a recruiter. The company is now held to the 6 month initial contract because they can't go around the recruiter. That's not true there are clauses in their contract to pay them a finders fee of X of your salary
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Sepist posted:Between all of us who switched jobs this year I wonder who will have a major gripe first. Standards, procedures... people following them!?! What mad world have you stepped into? That backup process sounds interesting. Never heard of that either. As far as  goes, I am trying to do my part. I really wanted to get into DevOps but I think it will take my too long to get my skillset up to speed. I'm still playing with the idea of starting a branch of an existing MSP where a bunch of friends and old co-workers work. Waiting for a few things to unfold before I make a final decision, but one way or another I'm getting a new job this year. This place is killing my will to live.
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Darchangel posted:As a tech worker who is now 48, this scares the ever living poo poo out of me. It basically says that no matter what I learn or how current I keep my skills, simply being old is reason to not hire.
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Sepist posted:Between all of us who switched jobs this year I wonder who will have a major gripe first. That’s awesome but I wonder if something happened where they had to back from the offsite could it be done fast enough that the business would survive. I’ve heard of a few companies that lost SANs or got hit by BitLocker. By the time they restored too many of their customers took their business elsewhere.
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Sepist, I thought you were going back out as a solo consultant? If you don't mind sharing what I missed, what are you actually doing now? You keep talking about your employer so obviously you aren't totally independent.
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Docjowles posted:Sepist, I thought you were going back out as a solo consultant? If you don't mind sharing what I missed, what are you actually doing now? You keep talking about your employer so obviously you aren't totally independent. He's a contractor for his old employer if I remember correctly. I'm sure it's just a habit to call them his boss.
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Vargatron posted:I like how the prevailing IT business practice is basically mass hiring a bunch of cheap college grads and them burning them out with 60+ hour work weeks.
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Sepist posted:Between all of us who switched jobs this year I wonder who will have a major gripe first. Sounds like the same setup as the client I just left. Is everything dual acess / dual control as well? Adhering to the red tape is indeed admirable in a large company but the red tape itself became the issue for me. There is never a quick fix and there is always a lot of paperwork involved.
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Docjowles posted:Sepist, I thought you were going back out as a solo consultant? If you don't mind sharing what I missed, what are you actually doing now? You keep talking about your employer so obviously you aren't totally independent. I have a 6 month staff aug contract with a huge law firm that I invoice through my LLC, and I have an independent consultant contract with my old company and another integrator. It sounds like they are my employer only because I'm at the law firm for 40+ hours a week LochNessMonster posted:Sounds like the same setup as the client I just left. Is everything dual acess / dual control as well? Not sure what you mean sorry. There's a few ways to manage the data but only one path to the data
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Sepist posted:Not sure what you mean sorry. There's a few ways to manage the data but only one path to the data The place I used to work had a large airgapped environment which requires two people to enter (mantrap with biometric checks) and 2 different roles to access specific environments or data.
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Antioch posted:I have an interview! First one in probably three years or so. I am very excited - I have a couple friends in HR at this place and they always speak highly of the IT group there. I'm sure you have at least conceptual experience of how networking works. Subnetting will eventually click. If you go heavy on PacketTracer you could finish in under four months.
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Antioch posted:The only issue is that it's got a heavier networking component than what I'm used to. So I've decided to cram my way to a CCENT in the next few months, using Lynda.com (free with my library card!) and then aim for a CCNA by the end of the year. How hard is the CCENT/CCNA for a guy that's done MCITP, CEH (lol), and has 8 years of SysAdmin experience in Windows? I'm dogshit at subnetting and I can only remember the OSI model with a mnemonic, so that's a start. you are way more experienced than I am and I've been studying for the CCENT for 3 weeks and have it pretty much down. You will be fine.
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LochNessMonster posted:The place I used to work had a large airgapped environment which requires two people to enter (mantrap with biometric checks) and 2 different roles to access specific environments or data. Oh. I'm not sure of the physical presence. It's hosted at sungard.
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The NOC sent out an alert to the app ops team, these servers are showing very high memory utilization can you advise? The entire reply from the app ops on call sys admin: "Stop the java" I think that's going to be my answer to everything. Hey Stripe how do we fix X? Stop the java. e: I should add, part of why it was an amazing reply to me is that, with only "stop the java", the NOC wrote back saying "that fixed it, thank you!" MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Mar 24, 2018 |
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"Please, for the love of god, just stop the Java" - me, a noob windows server admin getting requests for app servers from the business
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Hay! Is this the startup koolaid megathread? Does I'm basically entertaining joining a startup in the Bay Area. I've only ever worked at big established companies in my own city, so the idea of having to consider equity, relocation, etc. is a bit much to grasp all at once. There's a headhunting agency acting as middleman for the actual negotiations but I'm wondering if what they're going for is reasonable or if they're just looking to make a quick commission off me. I have like a million questions but it'd be be a boring long post -- I'm basically looking for a neutral resource to consult, compare and get information for myself. All I've been finding so far is sponsored garbage trying to push out their own services.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Seek.com.au's actually pretty good for browsing through IT jobs, it's how I found my previous and current ones. Can't help you on the resume-building though, sorry fellow Melbourne Goon. Thanks mate. Found my current job through a Seek posting and it's been a good 4 years, I'll go through there again.
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Jan posted:Hay! Is this the startup koolaid megathread? Does Angel or series A or B. I’ve worked for 3 startups but always after their series C when it’s kinda ensured they’ll last a while. I turned down an angel company that was throwing equity at me but I just didn’t believe in what they were doing. Sure enough they never made series A.
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Jan posted:Hay! Is this the startup koolaid megathread? Does For sure it does but you might get more specific stuff from the Oldie or Newbie Programming Career threads. I've only worked for corps in Australia so beyond those links I'm no help to you.
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jaegerx posted:Angel or series A or B. I’ve worked for 3 startups but always after their series C when it’s kinda ensured they’ll last a while. I turned down an angel company that was throwing equity at me but I just didn’t believe in what they were doing. Sure enough they never made series A. I believe they're just about to undergo series A, or have just gone through it, I'm not familiar enough to ask the right questions. They seem to have an idea where they're going, and I think their product has potential in a certain niche, but I don't believe in it enough to take equity over salary. Said salary would be acceptable, mind you, if the headhunting company can get what they say they're going for. Of course, the headhunters probably don't give a poo poo since the company keeling over just means they have someone on the market again for a commission. 
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Jan posted:Hay! Is this the startup koolaid megathread? Does All I'll say is it's super expensive to live here, so they better be paying a fat salary otherwise you're gambling with your own money. Not sure what your quality of life is right now, the kind of apartment/house you live in and what you do in your spare time, but you're going to need a good $100,000+ minimum to make it worthwhile. More if you are used to living the high life and also want to live in the city. The Bay area thread is active and sometimes has useful posters when they're not ranting arseholes https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3032519
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RFC2324 posted:what defines a startup anyway? is it just any new company? It probably could be said that it refers to any company that depends on outside funding for operating funds?
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Take what you think is acceptable as a salary and add 50k for Bay Area tax. You really don’t understand how expensive it is until you live there. Its bad. Expect a long commute but it’s easier thanks to Caltrain.
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Ranter posted:All I'll say is it's super expensive to live here, so they better be paying a fat salary otherwise you're gambling with your own money. Not sure what your quality of life is right now, the kind of apartment/house you live in and what you do in your spare time, but you're going to need a good $100,000+ minimum to make it worthwhile. More if you are used to living the high life and also want to live in the city. Yeah, I did my research, and Montreal being so cheap means I have a great lifestyle. So what I've been telling companies in salary questions is some hokum about "it's not about the salary, it's about the lifestyle, so in order to maintain that I need (insert figure between $110-150k depending on the company's means)". But I have no idea if what I'm asking is actually reasonable. Glassdoor is poo poo for this, Angel.co is slightly better... I've been hanging out in the Bay Area thread (and still wonder why isn't called BART - Bay Area Regional Thread?), I figured the people there were less about startups and more about  . 
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Jan posted:Yeah, I did my research, and Montreal being so cheap means I have a great lifestyle. It has never ceased to blow my mind how cheap the cost of living is in Montreal.
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Inspector_666 posted:It has never ceased to blow my mind how cheap the cost of living is in Montreal. Before or after government mandated French lessons? jaegerx posted:Take what you think is acceptable as a salary and add 50k for Bay Area tax. You really don’t understand how expensive it is until you live there. Its bad. Expect a long commute but it’s easier thanks to Caltrain. Yeah, my partner's there at Stanford already, so I have some idea what to expect. I basically have been budgeting by projecting my current costs and savings rate to Bay Area, adding a fuzzy $2k/month (what if we move to San Mateo instead of San Jose!?) and porting that in terms of salary. Jan fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Mar 25, 2018 |
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Jan posted:Before or after government mandated French lessons? 2k? You looking at a studio? I spent $2700 on a studio in nyc. Granted it was upper west side in manhattan but yeah.
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I assume they mean they're adding 2k to their partners current rent, which hopefully brings them to 3.5k for a 1 BR.
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jaegerx posted:2k? You looking at a studio? I spent $2700 on a studio in nyc. Granted it was upper west side in manhattan but yeah. Oh, no, I mean take my current costs (rent, rental insurance, groceries, bills, etc.), transposing them to Bay Area and then adding 2k on top of that. Which is pessimistic, but since I'm taking my partner's current San Jose rent into account, 2k would cover moving to a more "central" location.
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