|
Lampsacus posted:Why? Because the lynch is the town's only tool to catch scum and by no lynching you undermine the town's ability to win.
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:22
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 18, 2024 12:24 |
|
|
QuoProQuid posted:Because the lynch is the town's only tool to catch scum and by no lynching you undermine the town's ability to win. Even though you technically correct here
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:23
|
|
|
QuoProQuid posted:Because the lynch is the town's only tool to catch scum and by no lynching you undermine the town's ability to win.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:23
|
|
|
Pander's been asking for a replacement for about 24 hours, i can give you guys an extension though? A rolling deadline thing where i'll not call it end of day while there's still discussion ongoing.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:23
|
|
|
I'm OK without an extension but I think most of the others might want it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:27
|
|
|
busb posted:Pander's been asking for a replacement for about 24 hours, i can give you guys an extension though? A rolling deadline thing where i'll not call it end of day while there's still discussion ongoing. Don't really care either way. Unless you say plurality lynch because I don't know why we don't use them more.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:28
|
|
bowmore posted:Other option is Meinberg but I don't know what the case is on him The case on me is that I'm not very good at being funny. busb posted:Pander's been asking for a replacement for about 24 hours, i can give you guys an extension though? A rolling deadline thing where i'll not call it end of day while there's still discussion ongoing. A rolling deadline would probably be for the best. I know I hadn't realized that the deadline was tonight, and I suspect there are others who are the same.
|
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:28
|
|
|
I won't be around past 9, but I'm alright with it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:29
|
|
|
yuming posted:This is a p big misrepresentation of my posts, Scrappy Doo. <3 Did not see your post until I made mine, but your reasoning smells like an OMGUS that you tried to justify after the fact I made a mistake in that regard but you've been posting regularly throughout the day and have had more than opportunities than necessary to contribute, My memory tells me otherwise! In most games that we have been in together, players have mentioned that you loathe being scum. Lampsacus posted:But we can also invade each other and also there are like 25 players so one no lynch won't hurt that much. I would still rather avoid a no lynch by any means necessary. It's a stupid decision and does nothing to help our situation.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:29
|
|
|
HEY SO TOM TUCKER.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:30
|
|
|
Feeling very comfortable with my Yuming vote, I strictly set out that it was a gut read and my only one, but I would stand by it, then Yuming makes a case on me based on having... one gut read and voting for it. That's terrible logic, I stated voluntarily that it was a gut read and on day 1 of a large game I don't think that's unreasonable, and certainly not scummy. Her defense reads like she was just waiting for the nth person to vote for her, knowing that there's little if anything to go off of, and make that point. The problem is that she's trying to defend herself that there's little to go off of, and that's an incredibly scummy defense.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:32
|
|
|
yuming posted:HEY SO TOM TUCKER. But I just elected him for being a chill bro who doesn't play much who came with Grandi's recommendation.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:33
|
|
|
##vote TT 
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:39
|
|
|
tearshed posted:##vote TT There's two of those now.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:40
|
|
|
Rolling deadline starts in 20 minutes woo!
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:40
|
|
|
Asiina posted:There's two of those now. ##vote Tremendous Taste
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:40
|
|
|
Sorry yuming, but I'm not really seeing anything against Tom Tucker. It's a vote with a flimsy gut reason but it's end of Day 1 and that's just going to happen with a lot of people. I personally still think Meinberg is the best choice, but I don't know if I can get 10 people to agree with me. I'm going to reread Pander.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:43
|
|
|
Hey DBK gonna defend yourself against my argument or na bro?
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:43
|
|
|
Lampsacus posted:Hey DBK gonna defend yourself against my argument or na bro? Okay seriously man, it's DGK. With a G.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:44
|
|
|
It's a rolling deadline. Let's discuss. I don't want to lynch Yuming through my catchup. She's genuine. I also feel good about Ixt.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:45
|
|
|
Whatup everyone now I'm here to save the day and am slowly catching up now that I don't have to freak out with a rolling deadline  .
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:47
|
|
|
Lampsacus posted:Hey DBK gonna defend yourself against my argument or na bro? Um, not really because the bulk of my argument is gut and yours is dumb?
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:47
|
|
|
Asiina posted:Okay seriously man, it's DGK.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:48
|
|
|
It is dumb? Seriously? Is that the best you've got?
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:49
|
|
|
busb posted:Rolling deadline starts in 20 minutes woo! what does this mean?
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:49
|
|
|
Ernie. posted:It's a rolling deadline. Let's discuss. Good as in "I think this person is a good lynch candidate" or good as in, "I think this person is a good townie?" He's a little awkward but I'm leaning town.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:50
|
|
|
Well what else am I supposed to do, people want me to make a case I don't have a great read but I'm not scum. I'm stuck in a bad place that's stressed me out and there's nothing I can do to make myself look better because I'm trapped in a lovely meta logic argument with players like QPQ and DGK. I am trying to force an alternative but I know I don't have a good read because the nature of this game doesn't lend to scum having to stick their necks out in the thread. Wires are going to get crossed in a game like this where it's hard to tell if someone is acting the way they do out of interest for their empire, or for scum motivations. So where I'm at is upset me and on the edge of trying to replace out, but I've been all worked up about it for so long and it's so close to deadline that it seems like a waste. I do want to play but I don't want to deal with this.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:50
|
|
|
RE: Pander and what I talked about before:Pander posted:So it's your second game, but you're eager to dig into meta? These look like pressure pushes to see how people would react. If Pander was scum he could just ever so slightly misrepresent their stances and throw a vote down. So clearly his motivation here isn't to create some made-up case for himself. Pander posted:If you're fake-congratulating a dude on scumslipping, why leave yourself such a blatant out to unvote? This looks like the exact kind of 'catch' that he plays with. It reminds me of his play in A Confederacy of Dunces. Pander posted:So you're arguing what, that me pushing people is inherently scummy? Cause me pushing townies seems scummy, and you're saying if I'm pushing scum it's scummy cause I've bussed in the past. This defence against Hal and the escalation feel genuine to me as well.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:51
|
|
|
VivaNova posted:what does this mean? Once the deadline hits, the day ends when discussion dies off, or when someone is lynched.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:52
|
|
|
Hey Yuming, let's play together. I'm busy and angry at myself for not being able to play mafia too. I'll read Tom Tucker if you read Hal!
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:52
|
|
|
QuoProQuid posted:Good as in "I think this person is a good lynch candidate" or good as in, "I think this person is a good townie?" Good as in good guy. I don't want to reference it because that requires effort but there was some time in the past couple of pages where he just dropped a joke in the middle of a serious conversation. He's not playing like he's stressed or anything.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:53
|
|
|
I'm not even that sure about Tom I'm just trying to be sure about something because I know I'm town and idk idk idk what to do.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:54
|
|
|
Ernie. posted:These look like pressure pushes to see how people would react. If Pander was scum he could just ever so slightly misrepresent their stances and throw a vote down. At the point he was pushing me he'd already thrown a vote down on me. I'm not sure if that backs up your argument or goes against it, but I wanted to make it clear.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:55
|
|
|
Hal Incandenza posted:I am getting very strong scum vibes from Pander's recent posting. I haven't full caught up on the thread yet but everything I've seen so far tells me to ##vote Pander Hal votes Pander when the push is happening. Hal Incandenza posted:That's what I am seeing too. He's being overly aggressive even by his standards and his cases don't feel like they are developed from a town mind looking for scum, they read more like "let me write some harassing stuff about someone and maybe I can get them to slip up trying to counter my bluster" which I don't find very genuine at all. Hal agreeing that Pander pressuring people is scum-motivated. Hal Incandenza posted:I'll consider what you are saying. Hal responding to me saying that's not logical unless Hal also thinks that everyone Pander pushed is a townie. Hal Incandenza posted:50 is in this game? I don't think he's posted since I replaced in and I barely remember him from reading earlier. I am suddenly on Hal's scum list. This isn't consistent or how mafia works. If Hal said something like 'If Pander flips scum I'd consider Ernie' that would make sense, but he's just putting people he has light interactions with or about on his scum list (he'd previously said YPM was a flippant poster). This is posting motivated by being seen as consistent rather than opinions that change/develop over the course of the game.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:57
|
|
|
Ernie. posted:Pander read goes here. What you said about Pander is how I felt.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 01:58
|
|
|
Ernie. posted:Hey Yuming, let's play together. I'm busy and angry at myself for not being able to play mafia too. I'll read Tom Tucker if you read Hal! Especially when he was trying to explain that difference to someone in thread about it. I'm not sure on Pander and wish I could've gotten him specifically to follow up on his read of me. Because without that I don't know how to parse it. The comment that I said I didn't understand, Pander posted:I don't like Yuming trying to frame something that may be 'classically scummy' as something that a scum would say. Her vote on fiddy is real bad.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 02:00
|
|
|
Rarity posted:At the point he was pushing me he'd already thrown a vote down on me. I'm not sure if that backs up your argument or goes against it, but I wanted to make it clear. I really don't think: Pander posted:##vote Rarity Was a very serious vote. Especially when it's in response to you making a joke about Poque shooting Capps.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 02:01
|
|
|
yuming posted:Well what else am I supposed to do, people want me to make a case I don't have a great read but I'm not scum.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 02:02
|
|
|
yuming posted:Was kinda nonsense so I wanted to know where he was going with it. I explained it in a couple of my posts that start here. 50 holding that opinion is a null-tell in this game.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 02:03
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 18, 2024 12:24 |
|
|
Ernie. posted:I really don't think: I wasn't really sure cause he'd already had a go at one of my posts 
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2014 02:04
|
|