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Mr. Humalong posted:Oh? How so? As I said, scum can actually scumhunt, which means there's less empty cases and you have to watch more for the scum mentality behind their cases/posts. It's more subtle.
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Byers2142 posted:Column B. But I'm right. like, the logical deduction here feels like you're on a scum team and that's why you know this
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Byers2142 posted:As I said, scum can actually scumhunt, which means there's less empty cases and you have to watch more for the scum mentality behind their cases/posts. It's more subtle. this is just a bonker's thing to presume with NO reasoning whatsoever
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Sep 1, 2020 23:34
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Rarity posted:I find it curious how you called out Dick for this when I did the exact same thing Dick was first to jump on Sal, you were much later. There's a difference in timing, tone, and situation. Your Sal case was lazy, but he felt like he was posting to change the dialogue.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:36
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Sandwolf posted:this is just a bonker's thing to presume with NO reasoning whatsoever That part isn't presumption, it's my experience of the difference between the two types of games.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:40
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Byers2142 posted:Dick was first to jump on Sal, you were much later. There's a difference in timing, tone, and situation. Your Sal case was lazy, but he felt like he was posting to change the dialogue. Excuse me.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:40
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Sandwolf posted:who would you like to lunch instead? i'm still on sal it was just a general statement on my thought process, but i guess i'll not do that anymore since y'all are super aggro 100% of the time about everything Amnistar posted:There is a distinct difference between, "before we lunch sal we should talk about X" and "weave time left, wait on the lunch." yes this is my bad i should've been more clear for the people in the back of the room i'm outta here for a while. you guys are making me really loving mad
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Sep 1, 2020 23:40
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Byers2142 posted:The gently caress is this logic? sal has poisoned the well can u not swear ples
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Sep 1, 2020 23:42
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also ##unvote i'm not gonna be involved. i don't need a voice in the matter. i don't care anymore. y'all're making this extremely unfun imo i'll see you later if i calm down
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Sep 1, 2020 23:44
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you can make general statements of your thought processes, you're encouraged to, but people need to be allowed to disagree with that and for those of us who have been playing for a while we have seen this argument hash out a dozen times, and even when we do agree to give it more time, it invariably ends up one hour before deadline as we're desperate to pull together enough votes to lunch if we all agree Sal is the guy for today, we can't even analyze people's votes on him until he flips, what can we talk about? other people who are scummy? but those people's actions may immediately need to be reanalyzed after Sal flips, so we can't even come to some sort of conclusions about where to focus attention D2 so really, if we all more or less agree it should be Sal, let's do the business
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Sep 1, 2020 23:44
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Amnistar posted:Excuse me. Sal asked him about before you voted him.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:46
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Mr. Steak posted:as for why i think sal's town despite the awful awful awful posts so far... This is a good point, I hadn't considered that a scum player could just have his buddies explain everything to him in their chat. ##unvote
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Sep 1, 2020 23:48
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Tommunist posted:sal has poisoned the well "Let's lynch him even if he is town" is a bad case; it comes from an anti-town mentality. Right now, my scum list is Steak, you, and toal barring an explanation of the Rarity discrepancy in his posts.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:49
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Byers2142 posted:"Let's lynch him even if he is town" is a bad case; it comes from an anti-town mentality. lmao
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Sandwolf posted:you can make general statements of your thought processes, you're encouraged to, but people need to be allowed to disagree with that I happen to agree with the mentality behind this post, I just disagree on Sal as the lynch. I don't like the deadline play, am sad it's still here.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:51
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The more times I read Sal's posts the more I'm convinced it's just a massive fuckup from trying to Mafia at Work and the ensuing frustration and confusion all fits in that framework to me. My biggest scum read right now is Toalpaz, there's a few wandering votes and not a lot else. I'm also really suspicious of Mr. Steak based primarily on the whole influence transfer/interactions with Byers. My strong town right now are: Byers2142 soscannonballs Anyone else is somewhere in the between. I want to re-read, at some point: Sandwolf (the watch-tapping thing rubbed me the wrong way) Rarity (generally braggadocios about previous plays as a tool to gain authority) Tommunist (Sal lunch collateral damage plan seems weird) Amnistar (honestly think I missed a bunch of their posts reading between doing work stuff today and just am not familiar with their body of work)
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Sep 2, 2020 00:16
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Folks, its scum along after all. :pensive: ##vote humalong if someone asks me why I'm voting someone day one I encourage you to read the person I'm voting because the answer is always going to be 'gut read of their day one content'. I voted rarity and then read more and decided rarity was town. She was also my second vote, so what the hell DKG. Why don't you ask rarity why she voted 5 people in the first five minutes of this game. JJ just read whoever I voted for I don't need to explain myself its day one.
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Sep 2, 2020 00:26
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Toalpaz posted:Folks, its scum along after all. :pensive: And when I say I don't need to explain myself, really what I mean is asking people to expand on empty day one votes is fake content at worst. IMO. It can be low effort town play but like, is there really a point?
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Toalpaz posted:And when I say I don't need to explain myself, really what I mean is asking people to expand on empty day one votes is fake content at worst. IMO. It can be low effort town play but like, is there really a point? I don't think asking people to expand on day 1 votes is bad, people just need to be ready for "that one post rubbed me the wrong way" answers.
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Votecount for Day 1  SalTheBard (7): Amnistar, soscannonballs, Tobbs Gnawed, tpink, Rarity (4): Toalpaz, Mr. Steak (2): Tommunist, Mr. Humalong, SalTheBard, merk, Byers2142, Byers2142 (2): Rarity, Dick Bastardly, Sandwolf (1): Tobbs Gnawed, Jon Joe, Mr. Humalong (1): Toalpaz Retro Futurist (0): mikeycp, Toalpaz (0): Mr. Steak, mikeycp (0): b-minus1, Tobbs Gnawed (0): Sandwolf, Gumball Gumption (0): Amnistar, merk, Tommunist (0): Toalpaz, Jon Joe (0): Toalpaz, Tobbs Gnawed, Retro Futurist, tpink (0): Rarity, merk (0): tpink, Dick Bastardly (0): Jon Joe, Not Voting (6): cheese sandwich, Gumball Gumption, Hal Incandenza, mikeycp, ShallNoiseUpon, soscannonballsWith 23 alive, it's 12 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 02nd, 2020 at 11:30 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 2 hours.
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Sep 2, 2020 01:55
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whoa things got really quiet after that failed sal push
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b-minus1 posted:whoa things got really quiet after that failed sal push Yeah, I feel like scum were all on there. The "We're close to hammer don't want to end the day early" thing definitely felt like a "look Im so townie"
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Toalpaz posted:Folks, its scum along after all. :pensive: I've already called out Rarity, again. What about her posting between 9:31AM and 12:35PM changed your mind? Here is Rarity's post history from 9:30am on.
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DGK2000 posted:Yeah, I feel like scum were all on there. The "We're close to hammer don't want to end the day early" thing definitely felt like a "look Im so townie" Without sal flipping I don't know if scum backed off of a town bandwagon or are breathing a sigh of relief while sitting on a scumbus.
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DGK2000 posted:Yeah, I feel like scum were all on there. The "We're close to hammer don't want to end the day early" thing definitely felt like a "look Im so townie" Amnistar posted:Without sal flipping I don't know if scum backed off of a town bandwagon or are breathing a sigh of relief while sitting on a scumbus. With this logic, Sal's flip doesn't matter. You're agreeing that 'all scum' are currently voting Sal. There's seven people. Who is scum in there?
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hello thread, I will probably not read the 700 posts you guys made today. At least not before deadline. Also I am not a sparkle vampire I don't think With the workload that got dropped on me yesterday I don't expect that I'm going to be super engaged before next week. If someone has a coles notes re what's going on that would be super
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How is it that every game seems to get horny about sal right away? I like sal, let him play without raging out for a change
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Sep 2, 2020 03:43
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merk posted:With this logic, Sal's flip doesn't matter. You're agreeing that 'all scum' are currently voting Sal. There's seven people. Who is scum in there? Tobbs.
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cheese sandwich posted:How is it that every game seems to get horny about sal right away? I like sal, let him play without raging out for a change 
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Sep 2, 2020 03:54
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##unvote Might go back to Sal but haven't read the six new pages. Will read tomorrow morning over coffee.
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People would have to listen to me ever for that to be appropriate
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Worked sucked, but I appreciate you guys for slowing down the posting for a bit Sal seems likely town after the eventual claim, glad he didn’t get got already. He’s not 100% out of the water because I don’t love the hedging around being pushed to make reads but the scumslip part seems overblown at this point
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Byers is being very scummy, like overtly so, I can’t figure out how anything he is doing is helpful to town. I’d definitely ##vote Byers I don’t like rarities play around Sal, still haven’t gone back to read the early day stuff, checking that now
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Rarity posted:I sure am! This is probably the one rarity bit that I really don’t like. This vote seems to be serious and comes after a tpink post that doesn’t provide much context for the vote nor does rarity offer one or even really return to this read. The rest of her voting and posting though seems fine and reasoned and I don’t see her being all that different than her last game. I certainly sympathize with the explanation of mafia effort being related to free time available. Sorry people that wanted me to look at rarity, I think the points against her are not compelling at this time
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Sep 2, 2020 04:15
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Amnistar posted:Tobbs. Sal
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Sep 2, 2020 04:30
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Is the scum on the Sal vote? Meh, that’s a humorous answer but also a cop-out response
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I left the game at the point where Sal was looking suss for a weird joke post about being a vamp and 200+ posts I didn't read later and here we are. Is there anything I should go back and look at specifically or should I just go back to where I left off ( ) or neither?? In the mean time of waiting for a consensus, I shall go back to where I left off ()
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merk posted:With this logic, Sal's flip doesn't matter. You're agreeing that 'all scum' are currently voting Sal. There's seven people. Who is scum in there? Sal 
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Sep 2, 2020 05:28
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lot of people coming in here all "i don't wanna read all these posts but what happened???? sal....................bad???" just loving read lmao
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real talk I think Tobbs and Tommu are the most likely scum on the Sal vote could also see merk or mikeycp
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