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Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

oohhboy posted:

Holy fresh hell 3 Body Problem Netflix production is going to be a dumpster fire if it goes through. David Benioff and D.B. Weiss and Rian Johnson. For once, these hack frauds will do unintentional good.

Benioff and Weiss had to dump their previous project because it was an alternative history modern Confederacy “Man in the High Castle” theme.

Are people dumping on them because their next projects are “problematic” or because they haven’t been forgiven for GoT Season 8?

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Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Automatic Slim posted:

Benioff and Weiss had to dump their previous project because it was an alternative history modern Confederacy “Man in the High Castle” theme.

they had success and infamy from game of thrones--good or bad, they could've had their pick to direct any serialized project they liked. so... why that :catstare:

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Automatic Slim posted:


Are people dumping on them because their next projects are “problematic” or because they haven’t been forgiven for GoT Season 8?

They are never going to live down GoT season 8, them and Rian "the undertaker of starwars" Johnson are forever going to be poo poo directors who ruin everything.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Rian Johnson


D&D got exposed the grifting hack frauds that they are. They rushed S8 to bail for Star Wars (:lol:) where they got fired before making anything partly due to GoT while getting a Netflix deal as that happened. They absolutely did not need to make S8 if they wanted out, they could have simply handed it off to another team. HBO was willing to give nigh unlimited resources for GoT to continue. While I never watched GoT just about everyone said there was a noticeable slip in quality before 8 as they had outrun the books. Additional laughs with their after action reports "I forgot" massive key characters and plot points. It also turned out they got the job because they knew someone as they had absolutely no qualifications. It's an omni shambles, even the spin-offs got killed.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Last Jedi was the best Star Wars since Empire. This isn't even debatable since Rise of Skywalker came out and was orders of magnitude worse.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Last Jedi is polarizing as gently caress IMO. The Rey/Kylo Ren/Luke stuff was IMO some of the best star wars we got in a long time, but everything else was just noise at best.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
og star wars cribbed from the hidden fortress, last jedi cribbed from roshomon

roshomon has been cribbed from a lot more tho so it feels less original

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Fojar38 posted:

Last Jedi is polarizing as gently caress IMO. The Rey/Kylo Ren/Luke stuff was IMO some of the best star wars we got in a long time, but everything else was just noise at best.

There have been like 2.5 good Star Wars movies ever made so being the best since Empire is also not a very high bar to clear.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
The only new SW stuff I've seen was Rise of Skywalker, and holy poo poo that was hot garbage.

Like, I honestly thought you couldn't get worse than the prequels. Naive, pitiful child that I was.

WarpedNaba fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Sep 27, 2020

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
rise of skywalker didnt crib from any kurosawa films and therefore sucks balls

basically star wars is kurosawa films for fools who dont watch foreign film. empire strikes back cribbed from dersu uzala

i mean, lucas did have the decency to unfuck kurosawas career after he got lots of clout w peeps so i guess kurosawa was paid back

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Sep 27, 2020

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Caravan of Courage is the best Star Wars.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
which kurosawa film is a very star wars christmas special

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

The White Dragon posted:

which kurosawa film is a very star wars christmas special

Drunken Angel

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

The White Dragon posted:

which kurosawa film is a very star wars christmas special

That one time he used a super 8 to film a hobo trying to remedy an impacted bowel with a rusty fork. The hobo was obviously on something, because he horribly ruptured his intestine and bled to death in a puddle of putrid reddish-brown ooze.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
I played hooky from work and saw Deadpool and the force awakens as a double feature. It was a great day.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Knives Out redeems all of the hooky poo poo in Last Jedi, perfect film.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Would you rather catch coronavirus or watch Game of Thrones season 8 again?

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
I love how /r/freefolk never runs out of lovely bad details that I never noticed before.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

bob dobbs is dead posted:

og star wars cribbed from the hidden fortress, last jedi cribbed from roshomon

That'd be a pretty hard diss to Roshomon if it made any sense at all

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
i'd like to get back to talking about mooncakes but while we're at it

fast and furious movies are clearly the better version of star wars

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Would you rather catch coronavirus or watch Game of Thrones season 8 again?

I watched Season 8 while I had coronavirus and I would have a hard time telling you which is worse.

I also saw Dark Pheonix and the new Hellboy while I had it, you watch a lot of terrible poo poo when changing Hulu feels like a hurculean task.

Zakrello
Feb 17, 2015

missile imbound
CCP ego are so fragile even hololive BS caused a poo poo storm

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

GotLag posted:

I feel the same way about Avatar. Sure it's pretty, but there's nothing new in it if you're read like, any sci-fi.

You mean the movie?

Yeah, it's white saviour trash. Gorgeous to look at, but trash.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Would you rather catch coronavirus or watch Game of Thrones season 8 again?

game of thrones season 8 didnt break my rib from coughing so i'll vote for that

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Devils Affricate posted:

That'd be a pretty hard diss to Roshomon if it made any sense at all

peeps the repeated points of view on the scene w luke drawing his saber on kylo ren and being angry as poo poo

its not that good but its there

Red Minjo
Oct 20, 2010

Out of the houses, which is the most blue?

The answer might not be be obvious at first.

Gravy Boat 2k

Zakrello posted:

CCP ego are so fragile even hololive BS caused a poo poo storm

For those who don't watch anime girls play videogames and read memes, two virtual YouTubers called Akai Haato and Kiryu Coco read their viewership statistics, which included Taiwan as a separate country, and instantly got harrassed super hard by Chinese nationalists, and their managers threw them under the bus for it by suspending them for 3 weeks. Not even having a stance on Taiwan, just reading the word off of a list.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Red Minjo posted:

For those who don't watch anime girls play videogames and read memes, two virtual YouTubers called Akai Haato and Kiryu Coco read their viewership statistics, which included Taiwan as a separate country, and instantly got harrassed super hard by Chinese nationalists, and their managers threw them under the bus for it by suspending them for 3 weeks. Not even having a stance on Taiwan, just reading the word off of a list.

Wait, why the gently caress would Hololive give a poo poo about One China, they're Japanese.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
It's probably owned by China now.

Edit * You wouldn't understand User, 5000 years of eekum bokum, no why

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Not So Fast posted:

Wait, why the gently caress would Hololive give a poo poo about One China, they're Japanese.

Money. Mainlander netizens are known to be huge simps and will throw mountains of cash at titty streamers and vtubers alike. They make up a huge market segment of vtuber revenue

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

you know how in akihabara there are shops that exist only to sell rice cookers to mainlanders? in denden town there's the same but for japanese porn, the same sort of tour groups that go to paris for buying handbags or whatever also bring groups of dirty old men to to denden town for porn

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Heh, that's pretty hilarious.

I always loved that store in denden town that has the mad Max display, they even have a tin of dog food. Here's a crappy pic I took

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



There's also a branch of vtubers that live in China employed by the same company that could easily be hosed over potentially should the CCP want to.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Red Minjo posted:

For those who don't watch anime girls play videogames and read memes, two virtual YouTubers called Akai Haato and Kiryu Coco read their viewership statistics, which included Taiwan as a separate country, and instantly got harrassed super hard by Chinese nationalists, and their managers threw them under the bus for it by suspending them for 3 weeks. Not even having a stance on Taiwan, just reading the word off of a list.

I've said this before, but it baffles me at the over-reaction to petty minor things like this.

Both the CCP and their online army go nuts about things like this. Two people nobody "normal" has heard of doing nothing major, warrants a full on barrage of hate and invective, so that the company panics and self censors.

Yet the entire rest of the world treating Taiwan like a different country in all but the most superficial of cosmetic ways, doesn't raise an eyebrow. Many countries have Taiwanese "embassies", even if theu aren't officially called that. (Australia has one, coz I had to contact them to see if I was allowed to transit through Taipei on my way home from Korea.) And these are allowed and accepted. Hell even in the mainland, to fly to Taiwan you go to the international part of the airport, and all signs say "International flights, (including HK, Macau and Taiwan.)

So it's not that the world knows Taiwan is independent that bothers the CCP, nor that the world treats Taiwan as independent that bothers the CCP, its that ... internet video gamers don't mention Taiwanese fans?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Because it's bully logic. They can't actually change how the rest of the world obviously considers Taiwan a separate country but what they can do is try to hurt individual people for saying so, and they take advantage of anyone with exposure to China as part of their business to do this.

It's the result of weakness.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
It's also real power. They want you to think twice about mocking the party line. And it's scary how effective it's been even here in the states.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Rinkles posted:

It's also real power. They want you to think twice about mocking the party line. And it's scary how effective it's been even here in the states.

I will agree with this. It's sad and scary how often that even the threat of a CCP tantrum has companies/governments self-censoring, without the pissbaby CCP even having to do anything.

All it will take is one company/government standing up to, or better yet ignoring the tantrum, and seeing that the CCP can't practically do much to hurt them, and other companies/governments will follow suit. Thus robbing the CCP of it's only diplomatic tool, the threat of whiny pissbaby tantrums.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
China is petty enough to threaten trade sanctions over "This is killing". Cancelling people/companies/countries for hurt Chinese feelings is their one of the few tool they know. Every time it "Works" it gets worse. It's the modern Kowtow. The sanctioned Australia over "Hey can we send an international team to look at the virus".

Another thing is they never back down, always double down. Never "My bad". They will commit the most heinous of crimes then not only blame the victim but claim victimhood and innocence while gaslighting and accusing everyone of some other thing like racism. The best they will do is shut up and pretend it didn't happen until bringing it up again serves some perceived usefulness. They still bitch about the opium wars, like loving get over it, they won't as they think it somehow gives them the moral high ground.

Imagine Americans still getting steam out of the ears angry over Canada burning down the White House that one time instead of having a laugh today or France still pissed at Germany over both World Wars.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


oohhboy posted:

Imagine Americans still getting steam out of the ears angry over Canada burning down the White House

I can't believe Canadian propaganda has spread so far. Canada didn't exist at the time and the British army that burned DC came straight from Europe.

The US did stay pretty pissed at the Brits for that and uh, other issues until the World Wars finally ended all that though.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

BrigadierSensible posted:

I will agree with this. It's sad and scary how often that even the threat of a CCP tantrum has companies/governments self-censoring, without the pissbaby CCP even having to do anything.

All it will take is one company/government standing up to, or better yet ignoring the tantrum, and seeing that the CCP can't practically do much to hurt them, and other companies/governments will follow suit. Thus robbing the CCP of it's only diplomatic tool, the threat of whiny pissbaby tantrums.

When it comes down to it, it's less about being intimidated by China's tantrums and more about just leaving a shitload of money on the table. Take Blizzard for example. Sure, they could take a stand during their tournaments and label the Taiwanese teams appropriately, or they could just say whatever, call them "Chinese Taipei", and continue to collect their annual billions from the mainland. Governments have less of a reason/excuse for buckling, since it's their responsibility to serve their people's best interests rather than those of foreign nations, but lots of smaller/poorer countries desperately need funding and China has lately been happy to exploit such vulnerability.

Grand Fromage posted:

I can't believe Canadian propaganda has spread so far. Canada didn't exist at the time and the British army that burned DC came straight from Europe.

The US did stay pretty pissed at the Brits for that and uh, other issues until the World Wars finally ended all that though.

Honestly, as an American, I prefer to just go with the Canadian story because it's so hilarious

Devils Affricate fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Sep 28, 2020

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GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

oohhboy posted:

China is petty enough to threaten trade sanctions over "This is killing". Cancelling people/companies/countries for hurt Chinese feelings is their one of the few tool they know. Every time it "Works" it gets worse. It's the modern Kowtow. The sanctioned Australia over "Hey can we send an international team to look at the virus".

lol what happened was the Australian PM falling over himself to try and help the US administration deflect blame for totally loving up their COVID response by attempting to climb aboard the INVESTIGATE CHINA bandwagon

You would have to have suffered an actual brain injury to think that there would have been any other outcome than angering the people who buy our poo poo for no gain whatsoever.

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