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Soooooo... In addition to Xenoverse, seems there's a new 3DS Dragon Ball game coming.  Looks like it's pulling a Jump Super/Ultimate Stars. Roster already looks pretty interesting.
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Feb 19, 2015 16:47
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I like that Yamcha is down there in the assists with Dende, Bulma, and Hercule. He's not a fighter but he can dang sure support one!
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Feb 19, 2015 16:54
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Chichi's Support attacking is yelling about where Gohan is because of course it is.
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Feb 19, 2015 16:57
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I wonder if this is going to get brought to the U.S.? I'd certainly like to play it. It's a sequel/same series as Supersonic Warriors on the DS which had all those cool fusion supers, right? Also the location based supers are a neat idea.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:00
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Webbeh posted:The guy drawing the manga for the movie is... he's also the writer/artist of the Dragonball Heroes manga and pretty much Toei's Dragonball continuity guy
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Feb 19, 2015 17:02
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Darko posted:You need special ki attacks that take years and years to develop to do something like that. Every ki attack is not the same thing. It always seemed to me that the type of ki manipulation the earthlings used were derived from the Namekian school - things like attacks that boost your power level temporarily, power suppression without the use of transformations, and ki sensing are virtually unknown outside of those two places, and probably only exist on Earth due to Kami bringing them over. This also highlights how much of a genius Vegeta was - he thought the Galick Gun (which is pretty much a reskinned Kamehameha) was a unique thing he came up with himself until he saw all the earthlings using his "secret" technique like it was nothing. He as the only one in Freeza's army who wasn't fooled by their ki manipulation because he was no stranger to it himself. This also explains why he was able to pick up ki sensing so easily. This means he pretty much came up with the exact same type of advanced ki techniques unique to Namek/Earth independently prior to any contact with Earthlings/Namekians, something nobody else in Freeza's army managed.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:41
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Blockhouse posted:it makes sense that being brought back to life would give him back his normal body. It's effectively a brand new one, after all. But, but his 4th form is actually original and also 
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Feb 19, 2015 17:46
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Made an effort post thread in games for XV: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3701823&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post441762264
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Feb 19, 2015 17:47
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mmkay posted:Even with Kaioken he lost against Vegeta pretty badly, so he was the strongest from around mid-Namek saga (when he was training) until the Androids show up. Then he's surpassed by SSJ Vegeta, USSJ Vegeta and Gohan. Then he's the strongest for a short amount of time when he's back on Earth with his SSJ3 form, only to be surpassed again by Gohan. This is frequently forgotten and is part of why Vegeta's need to FINALLY DEFEAT KAKKAROT is the funniest thing to me. Dude, you already did that. You rather decisively and unambiguously handed him his rear end on Earth. It took literally everyone on Earth to fight you to a draw.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:53
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Captain Oblivious posted:This is frequently forgotten and is part of why Vegeta's need to FINALLY DEFEAT KAKKAROT is the funniest thing to me. Dude, you already did that. You rather decisively and unambiguously handed him his rear end on Earth. It took literally everyone on Earth to fight you to a draw. I stopped liking Vegeta as a character in the cell arc. He was much better as the scrappy underdog in the Freeza arc - one man going rogue against an army full of guys he knows might outclass him. Yeah, he's arrogant on earth, but he kind of is right to be seeing as he almost took everyone out. I guess becoming a super saiyan really went to his head or something. I blame Toriyama since I bet by the time he was doing the cell story he couldn't even remember what the hell even happened on Namek.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:02
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Captain Oblivious posted:This is frequently forgotten and is part of why Vegeta's need to FINALLY DEFEAT KAKKAROT is the funniest thing to me. Dude, you already did that. You rather decisively and unambiguously handed him his rear end on Earth. It took literally everyone on Earth to fight you to a draw. He was pissed because he had to go ape to win. Goku beat him in the beam battle, and he felt he had to "cheat" to win from that point on and hated it.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:02
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Darko posted:He was pissed because he had to go ape to win. Goku beat him in the beam battle, and he felt he had to "cheat" to win from that point on and hated it. Vegeta didn't know that Goku was overclocking his body to keep up with him. Frankly if Vegeta had just kept fighting it's far more likely Goku would have keeled over first.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:04
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Zonekeeper posted:It always seemed to me that the type of ki manipulation the earthlings used were derived from the Namekian school - things like attacks that boost your power level temporarily, power suppression without the use of transformations, and ki sensing are virtually unknown outside of those two places, and probably only exist on Earth due to Kami bringing them over. quote:This also highlights how much of a genius Vegeta was - he thought the Galick Gun (which is pretty much a reskinned Kamehameha) was a unique thing he came up with himself until he saw all the earthlings using his "secret" technique like it was nothing. He as the only one in Freeza's army who wasn't fooled by their ki manipulation because he was no stranger to it himself. This also explains why he was able to pick up ki sensing so easily. This means he pretty much came up with the exact same type of advanced ki techniques unique to Namek/Earth independently prior to any contact with Earthlings/Namekians, something nobody else in Freeza's army managed.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:22
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A couple pages back, but I feel like if Frieza uses 'strong enough to beat Majin Buu' as his benchmark he's gonna have an unpleasant surprise.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:04
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Some Numbers posted:He was a stranger to ki manipulation, he just calculated for it because Raditz got destroyed by two people who shouldn't have been able to touch him. Ki sensing was also new to him, but yeah, he basically taught it to himself. Honestly, even if he did figure out how to suppress his power when he learned to sense ki he's not exactly the type that would hide it.  (See: the punching machine in the pre-Buu world tournament.)
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Feb 19, 2015 19:11
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Justin_Brett posted:A couple pages back, but I feel like if Frieza uses 'strong enough to beat Majin Buu' as his benchmark he's gonna have an unpleasant surprise. Oh it's not that bad there are probably only like 5 or 6 beings throwing that kind of juice around! But they are all in one place, and all but a couple of them have very specific personal grudges against him. E: for the sake of discussion I'll say I'm thinking of Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, Gotenks, Uub, and Beerus. projecthalaxy fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 19:11
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Blockhouse posted:it makes sense that being brought back to life would give him back his normal body. It's effectively a brand new one, after all. Actually he's brought back to life as the pieces Trunks cut him into, his minions have to use a machine to regrow his body 
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Feb 19, 2015 19:31
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Trunks blew him u-... aw you know what, i dont care.  Horrifying image tho. 
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Feb 19, 2015 19:38
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Hahahahahaha that's great!
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Feb 19, 2015 19:40
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Thyrork posted:Trunks blew him u-... aw you know what, i dont care. I think it's the idea of "that's what your body was like before it was destroyed." I guess the two must have misworded their wish or something.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:43
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Shenron is just being spiteful since he knows who Frieza is, but is obligated to fulfill the wish.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:46
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projecthalaxy posted:Oh it's not that bad there are probably only like 5 or 6 beings throwing that kind of juice around! But they are all in one place, and all but a couple of them have very specific personal grudges against him. I think Uub is still a toddler at this point. Not that that stopped Gohan I guess.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:49
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Frieza's goal in this movie should be to find a time machine so he can go get revenge on Future Trunks.Schubalts posted:Shenron is just being spiteful since he knows who Frieza is, but is obligated to fulfill the wish. When you bring someone back with the Dragon Balls, their body is returned to where it was when they died(except when it isn't) and Frieza's body was in a few places when it got blown up.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:59
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And he'll have to jump through like six timelines to get to the right one. "Excuse me strange green thing, I'm here to kill someone named Trunks." "Sorry, just killed him." "drat it!"
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Feb 19, 2015 20:01
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BlitzBlast posted:And he'll have to jump through like six timelines to get to the right one. "You're Frieza, right?" "...yes?" "You're inside me right now."
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Feb 19, 2015 20:04
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Rhonne posted:Frieza's goal in this movie should be to find a time machine so he can go get revenge on Future Trunks. Oh yeah wasn't this the reason why Goku couldn't be revived at Namek? (When they thought he was dead) I think King Kai said that bringing back Goku from the dead would put him back at Namek, aka no where to breathe.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:28
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Yeah, but then Vegeta immediately suggested wishing their souls return to Earth, so it was a problem solved before it ever made a difference. Krillin's body was also blown up and came back just fine, I think the dragon is just being a dick.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:30
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I think the dragon just brings you back alive Goku couldn't live with a hole in his chest, so the dragon healed that, lucky for Freeza he's incredibly resilient and can live just fine in a hundred pieces. Wait, that example doesn't work, since Goku got to keep his body, fully restored in the afterlife (and he had to run back to the check in station). Imagine I used Vegeta in that example instead. Rohan Kishibe fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 21:07
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Prison Warden posted:I think the dragon just brings you back alive Goku couldn't live with a hole in his chest, so the dragon healed that, lucky for Freeza he's incredibly resilient and can live just fine in a hundred pieces. Yeah he was alive until the pieces were disintegrated. This is also the reason why Cell was so durable and his regeneration much better then Piccolo's. Freeza's cells allowed him to survive pretty much any injuries and Piccolo's regeneration allowed him to regrow his body from that. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 22:11
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Prison Warden posted:I think the dragon just brings you back alive Goku couldn't live with a hole in his chest, so the dragon healed that, lucky for Freeza he's incredibly resilient and can live just fine in a hundred pieces. Hey is he like a starfish? Does that mean that he could grow a twin brother by cutting off his tail (if given enough time?) Incidentally, cell's cell babies annoyed me for not obeying the laws of conservation of mass (nerdy, I know) but in my headcanon when cell teleported back from kaiō's planet, he used the particles from the planet and the blown up dead bodies to reform himself.
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Feb 19, 2015 22:30
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Cell absorbs a whole city and doesn't get fat so assume Cell can turn organic matter into energy. The Cell juniors are the reverse of that process. Give me my no-prize.
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Feb 19, 2015 22:46
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Momomo posted:Yeah, but then Vegeta immediately suggested wishing their souls return to Earth, so it was a problem solved before it ever made a difference. Krillin's body was also blown up and came back just fine, I think the dragon is just being a dick. Porunga explicitly says he put Krillin's body and clothes back together as a bonus.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:05
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Horrible Taste posted:Porunga explicitly says he put Krillin's body and clothes back together as a bonus. Which means, that as stated, Shenron is just being a dick.
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Feb 20, 2015 00:34
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How can Frieza be revived? I thought there was a rule that they had to be revived within a year of death? Also wonder if they'll remember that you get two wishes from Shenron
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Feb 20, 2015 00:56
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Ekusukariba posted:How can Frieza be revived? I thought there was a rule that they had to be revived within a year of death? Also wonder if they'll remember that you get two wishes from Shenron Shenron is just a dick. Thats not even a rule. Goku was revived after 14 months at King Kai's.
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Feb 20, 2015 01:05
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Ekusukariba posted:How can Frieza be revived? I thought there was a rule that they had to be revived within a year of death? Also wonder if they'll remember that you get two wishes from Shenron They tossed Frieza into the logarithmic time chamber. Its only been e seconds since his death.
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Ekusukariba posted:How can Frieza be revived? I thought there was a rule that they had to be revived within a year of death? Also wonder if they'll remember that you get two wishes from Shenron To be fair, all of that was said before Dende upgraded Shenron. And they can probably upgrade as they go as well.
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Feb 20, 2015 01:08
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Ekusukariba posted:How can Frieza be revived? I thought there was a rule that they had to be revived within a year of death? Also wonder if they'll remember that you get two wishes from Shenron The one year rule applies to groups of people. An individual can be wished back whenever.
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Feb 20, 2015 01:09
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Shenron can wish back more than one person per wish provided that: (1) they died less than a year before the summoning, (2) died under the same circumstance (e.g. killed by a certain villain), and (3) have not already been wished back before.
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If Freeza is revived in several pieces, how do they make him 100% organic again?
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