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ass cobra: May 28, 2004; by Azathoth

Erdogan is pretty much Ted Cruz only turkish instead of canadian and without that face

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:27

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 08:03

AugmentedVision: Feb 17, 2011; by exmarx

idk maybe more like Trump since he is clearly trying to Make Ottoman Great Again

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:28

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

rear end cobra posted:

Erdogan is pretty much Ted Cruz only turkish instead of canadian and without that face

lets ask him how he refers to a basketball hoop and then tanzania

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:29

ass cobra: May 28, 2004; by Azathoth

AugmentedVision posted:

idk maybe more like Trump since he is clearly trying to Make Ottoman Great Again

But Trump has real charisma, Erdogan is just a smart scheming pos who tries super hard

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:30

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3: Nov 15, 2003

Quote this if the last time you heard the word Iskenderun was Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:30

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

USSAr posted:

once again obama supports islam over secularism

If he hands over Gulen, lol

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:38

ass cobra: May 28, 2004; by Azathoth

If obama hands over gulen trump should be president. but he wont hand him over

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:40

AugmentedVision: Feb 17, 2011; by exmarx

Remember the penis game in school? You tried to say it as loud as possible without getting in trouble

US politicians do the same thing except "Armenian genocide"

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:48

Kainser: Apr 27, 2010; O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

Young Freud posted:

The coup leaders didn't have much of a choice. Apparently Erdogan was going to drop the hammer on them this weekend and it turned into a "do or die" moment.

South Korea. That was '79-'80. They were a military dictatorship until about 1988.

South Korea was very much a pretty lovely country back then.

e; I would it put it slightly below Erdogan's Turkey.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:52

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

absolutely shameful all who oppose islamism face utter defeat and humiliation in that region. it's a lost cause

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:55

Young Freud: Nov 26, 2006

Kainser posted:

South Korea was very much a pretty lovely country back then.

e; I would it put it slightly below Erdogan's Turkey.

This may be true, but, in the here and now, it's light-years beyond Erdogan's Turkey today.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:56

AugmentedVision: Feb 17, 2011; by exmarx

Young Freud posted:

This may be true, but, in the here and now, it's light-years beyond Erdogan's Turkey today.

wow racist

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:57

Lodin: Jul 31, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

But could we get another proper coup? If Ehrmagahd decides to gently caress with higher up officers then the rest might go, gently caress it. Then it's on.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:59

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Raw_Beef posted:

Lmao is this what theyre teaching in school these days?

Best Korea do nothing wrong! South Korea attack first! Defensive invasion with massed armor donated by soviet union! Completely justified!

North and South Korea had both attacked each other before the Korean War kicked off, if you don't believe that then read a fuckin book my friend.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 19:59

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Lodin posted:

But could we get another proper coup? If Ehrmagahd decides to gently caress with higher up officers then the rest might go, gently caress it. Then it's on.

turkey is a caliphate now. they behead and smile and gather for them.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:00

Kainser: Apr 27, 2010; O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

It's funny to consider now but North Korea was genuinely a better place to live in than South Korea for a very long time

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:00

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Islamism train ain't got no brakes.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:01

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Kainser posted:

It's funny to consider now but North Korea was genuinely a better place to live in than South Korea for a very long time

Almost all of the material wealth of the peninsula is in the North and it is a shame that a lot of it has been squandered on developing the military rather than benefiting the general population, imo.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:03

wide stance: Jan 28, 2011; If there's more than one way to do a job, and one of those ways will result in disaster, then he will do it that way.

jBrereton posted:

Almost all of the material wealth of the peninsula is in the North and it is a shame that a lot of it has been squandered on developing the military rather than benefiting the general population, imo.

Uh what? Do you mean natural resources?

South Korea is massively more wealthy than the north and also has like four times the defense spending.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:09

Lucy Heartfilia: May 31, 2012

Wikkheiser posted:

Islamism train ain't got no brakes.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:12

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

WRT grunts and civilians: I've been on a few Aid to the Civil Power things, mostly floods and snow storms, but also for G8/G20, and the amount of briefings on what to do is intense. Mostly "even if there is a riot, let the police do their thing. A state that uses military force on civilians has no legitimacy and you should just return to barracks."

However, my country has not been taken over by Islamists (yet). :canada:

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:13

Shanghaied: Oct 12, 2004; BIG PAD

Kainser posted:

It's funny to consider now but North Korea was genuinely a better place to live in than South Korea for a very long time

Between 1980 and 1988 these are your choices when it comes to Korean leaders:

Both unelected dictators backed by a military backed by a superpower, both have killed dissidents in droves.

wide stance posted:

Uh what? Do you mean natural resources?

South Korea is massively more wealthy than the north and also has like four times the defense spending.

Back in the 1970s and early 1980s, before the "Korean Miracle" happened, DPRK was widely considered to be the better Korea - it was more industrialised, with more natural resources and getting massive amounts of aid from PRC and USSR.

Shanghaied fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jul 16, 2016

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:13

Young Freud: Nov 26, 2006

wide stance posted:

Uh what? Do you mean natural resources?

South Korea is massively more wealthy than the north and also has like four times the defense spending.

North Korea has a poo poo-ton of mineral deposits, but the DPRK choose to concentrate heavily into agriculture, which screwed them up super bad. South Korea has to import almost everything, but built up their economy by processing those imported materials into ships, cars, and military equipment and then exporting them.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:16

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Shanghaied posted:

Between 1980 and 1988 these are your choices when it comes to Korean leaders:

or

Both unelected dictators backed by a military backed by a superpower, both have killed dissidents in droves.

If those are the choices, I'll take the one that lets me have a fuckton of giant-rear end medals on my uniform.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:17

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

i wish i was a dictator

i'd do it right

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:23

Shanghaied: Oct 12, 2004; BIG PAD

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

If those are the choices, I'll take the one that lets me have a fuckton of giant-rear end medals on my uniform.

Speaking of failed coup attempts and Korean dictators, here's a friendly reminder that President Park Chung-Hee was shot and killed at point-blank range by the director of the KCIA, at the loving presidential palace. It's as if George Bush Sr just had enough of Gerald Ford and killed him with his own hands at the White House.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:25

Jst0rm: Sep 16, 2012; Grimey Drawer

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

If those are the choices, I'll take the one that lets me have a fuckton of giant-rear end medals on my uniform.

a logical choice.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:26

Riot Bimbo: Dec 28, 2006

Shanghaied posted:

Between 1980 and 1988 these are your choices when it comes to Korean leaders:

Barton fink

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:27

YouTuber: Jul 31, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Shanghaied posted:

This is like the one question I would like to ask someone who was in the Iraqi/Syrian army circa. 2013.

I knew Russia and Turkey didn't get along and has fought each other, but boy was I unprepared for the extent of this. So wikipedia tells me Russia and Turkey has been at war 12 times in the last 500 years, 10 times in the last 300 years. From 1768 to 1918 they basically fought once every generation.

For the first quarter of the 20th century everyone was myopic about getting Constantinople out of Islamic hands. The last attempt was the Greco-Turk war which hilariously enough was botched because a monkey bit the King and caused sepsis. The replacement purged the military high command which let Ataturk fight courtiers rather than military people.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 20:28