Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
Which lifepath will you take?
NOMAD (I like freedom)
STREET KID (I like the city)
CORPO (I like money)
I don't like labels
View Results
 
  • Post
  • Reply
wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
I rushed to finish my play through before the patch breaks everything.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

_____!
May 2, 2004


350 hours and just finished my first playthrough over the weekend. :v: chose :suicide: because I'm a :gonk:. Of course I went back in for another and decided to try Rogue. Arasaka assault was fun but man not a huge fan of the epilogue. Steve wasn't a great voice actor.

I do look forward to more patches coming out to do a second playthrough since I had Berserk installed most of my run and frying people with net wizardy would be fun. This game rules.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




_____! posted:

350 hours and just finished my first playthrough over the weekend

How?

I did all of everything in ~60 hours. Fully cleared the map.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

History Comes Inside! posted:

How?

I did all of everything in ~60 hours. Fully cleared the map.

I'm not at 350 hrs or anywhere close but I spend a lot of time motorcycling around and poking around non-marked areas trying to see cool stuff because the world design is exceptionally pretty.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
I hope they use the city again and make like a detective story. Like a grizzled old private detective trying to solve a Jig-Jig Street murder. A lot of synthy slow horn music and DLC fedoras.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




How will it be a mystery when you automatically teleport in behind the murderer as soon as they kill their victim?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Solice Kirsk posted:

I hope they use the city again and make like a detective story. Like a grizzled old private detective trying to solve a Jig-Jig Street murder. A lot of synthy slow horn music and DLC fedoras.

Yeah more video game plots need to be smaller scale stuff that isn't mega world altering. Plus that kind of situation could be used to pull in some of the tabletop roles that don't really work with V.

You got your solo with a tiny bit of netrunner and that's pretty much all V has going on, even though there's ten drat classes. Having a different sort of plot could mean having a different kind of player.

But that'd mean way different gameplay mechanics and the ones out now aren't really working.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

History Comes Inside! posted:

How will it be a mystery when you automatically teleport in behind the murderer as soon as they kill their victim?

*brrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkk!!!

"You! In the edgerunner jacket, cargo shorts with four slots, and purple snow boots double jumping over the street! Stop right there!"

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
It'd be neat to fit an entire story into one neighborhood, there's enough locked doors and unimplemented floors to fit whatever amount of story you want into even one building.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

History Comes Inside! posted:

How will it be a mystery when you automatically teleport in behind the murderer as soon as they kill their victim?

Now I'm picturing your average NCPD officer just getting ready to punch out, or get a cup of coffee, or writing a report, or sitting down on the can getting ready to drop a deuce, only to be instantly teleported somewhere because someone just beat a pervert ripperdoc to death in his private office a few seconds before.

_____!
May 2, 2004


History Comes Inside! posted:

How?

I did all of everything in ~60 hours. Fully cleared the map.

Mainly a normal days playing would be setting a waypoint to a mission, bumping into a wall or roof that wasn't solid then exploring out of bounds for the rest of the day.:q: Also partially poking and platforming around the map, partially photo mode until it stopped working.

Well also the first week or so of playing there were still enough bugs that forced reloading/softlocking and setting back progress. The game has issues but good God the parts that work are incredible. I unabashedly love this game. 350 hours I will be the first to admit is absurd though.

_____! fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Feb 16, 2021

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender

History Comes Inside! posted:

How will it be a mystery when you automatically teleport in behind the murderer as soon as they kill their victim?

At least the speedrunning scene will be easy to break into.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Shumagorath posted:

Ignore him - guy had at least two sock puppets and one was a PRC Stan. A rendering and streaming engine like Cyberpunk's is worth tens of millions of dollars and I can definitely see a real game company with state protection from IP suits buying it.

Absolutely not, an engine by a different developer without support is worth absolutely nothing. And there are tons of better engines available to anyone.

Unreal Engine and Unity both exist, no one wants Cd Project's terrible engine, and stolen source code of a game isn't worth "tens of millions of dollars", lmao. It's worthless.

The idea that Russia or China stole the Cyberpunk source to release an asset flip is even more absurd.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Feb 16, 2021

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

also if this was about a nation stealing the code in order to copy it for one of their own companies to make poo poo, why would they bother writing a ransom note and attracting all this attention?

yes there are plenty of cases of china stealing ip from other countries, i've worked at a company where it happened. there were certainly no announcements or notes about it beforehand. i dont think there almost ever are?

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Feb 16, 2021

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

Avatar brought to you by the TG Sanity fund

Solice Kirsk posted:

I hope they use the city again and make like a detective story. Like a grizzled old private detective trying to solve a Jig-Jig Street murder. A lot of synthy slow horn music and DLC fedoras.

Have you played >OBSERVER_ ?

Because it's that. Also it's really good and the Director's Cut just dropped.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

In an ironic twist it'll be revealed that Google bought the code for Stadia in the hopes of using "the ultimate FIXED version" to boost Stadia+ subs, and just completely forgot that they already had CP2077 on their platform :v:

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Fuzz posted:

Have you played >OBSERVER_ ?

Because it's that. Also it's really good and the Director's Cut just dropped.

Also it's by Bloober Team who don't have a single creative bone in their collective bodies and they make nothing but schlock "horror" out of recycled mainstream ideas.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Sydney Bottocks posted:

In an ironic twist it'll be revealed that Google bought the code for Stadia in the hopes of using "the ultimate FIXED version" to boost Stadia+ subs, and just completely forgot that they already had CP2077 on their platform :v:

Google CEO: "What is Stadia?"

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
I get having the ability to talk to Hanako ASAP and scoop Johnny out for a truly horrible ending if that's how you want to roleplay, but now I'm level 50 and being drip-fed a bunch of really good quests with all the side jobs cleared save racing. I can't seem to get Skippy to prompt me for a return either, and I'd really like to complete the stash wall for a hot second.

Oh well, game still good.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Yeah more video game plots need to be smaller scale stuff that isn't mega world altering. Plus that kind of situation could be used to pull in some of the tabletop roles that don't really work with V.

You got your solo with a tiny bit of netrunner and that's pretty much all V has going on, even though there's ten drat classes. Having a different sort of plot could mean having a different kind of player.

But that'd mean way different gameplay mechanics and the ones out now aren't really working.

Definitely. One of my biggest problems with 2077's plot is how insanely powerful V becomes without really any in game explanation as to why. Like, why the gently caress aren't there other solos who get Sandevistan implants as good as V's (hell, just giving some top enemies a thing that makes it so they Sandevistan whenever you do so everything stays full speed), or netrunners who hack you into suicide or death or...whatever. In a lower stakes game the answer is cost and of course some top-tier Corp is going to have someone as borged out as V can get, or as good at netrunning, or whatever, but you just won't see them because you're in a low-stakes game. But when you're regularly storming some of the most powerful places in the world and you're somehow a one-person army and nobody else can challenge you it stretches my imagination when a month before you were some gutter trash with a pair of loaned Kiroshi eyes and a washed up fixer with a gig. The Witcher gives you that out because it flat out tells you why Geralt is special. V explicitly isn't, and they also somehow avoid making the Relic a reason for that specialness. I like having the narrative match the game and a lower-stakes game would do that better, imo.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Fuzz posted:

Have you played >OBSERVER_ ?

Because it's that. Also it's really good and the Director's Cut just dropped.

It looks awesome, but seems to have spooky monsters in it so not quite what I was looking for. I was think something more like LA Noire, but with robots.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Ravenfood posted:

Definitely. One of my biggest problems with 2077's plot is how insanely powerful V becomes without really any in game explanation as to why. Like, why the gently caress aren't there other solos who get Sandevistan implants as good as V's (hell, just giving some top enemies a thing that makes it so they Sandevistan whenever you do so everything stays full speed), or netrunners who hack you into suicide or death or...whatever. In a lower stakes game the answer is cost and of course some top-tier Corp is going to have someone as borged out as V can get, or as good at netrunning, or whatever, but you just won't see them because you're in a low-stakes game. But when you're regularly storming some of the most powerful places in the world and you're somehow a one-person army and nobody else can challenge you it stretches my imagination when a month before you were some gutter trash with a pair of loaned Kiroshi eyes and a washed up fixer with a gig. The Witcher gives you that out because it flat out tells you why Geralt is special. V explicitly isn't, and they also somehow avoid making the Relic a reason for that specialness. I like having the narrative match the game and a lower-stakes game would do that better, imo.

I mean, they do mention that you and Johnny's personalities are slowly merging over the course of the game, and he's shown to be an absolute juggernaut when you play as him. It's not specifically spelled out that the Relic is making you more powerful, but they do suggest the possibility.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Ravenfood posted:

Definitely. One of my biggest problems with 2077's plot is how insanely powerful V becomes without really any in game explanation as to why. Like, why the gently caress aren't there other solos who get Sandevistan implants as good as V's (hell, just giving some top enemies a thing that makes it so they Sandevistan whenever you do so everything stays full speed)

Reminds me of Dishonored (Trying time stop while Daud is talking in his room for the first time :aaa:). Game good.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

History Comes Inside! posted:

How?

I did all of everything in ~60 hours. Fully cleared the map.
You know, when you were a small kid, and making up poo poo all day to pass the time? With some fantasy, you can do so in an open world game, too.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Sydney Bottocks posted:

In an ironic twist it'll be revealed that Google bought the code for Stadia in the hopes of using "the ultimate FIXED version" to boost Stadia+ subs, and just completely forgot that they already had CP2077 on their platform :v:

The ultimate masterstroke

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get

Ravenfood posted:

Definitely. One of my biggest problems with 2077's plot is how insanely powerful V becomes without really any in game explanation as to why. Like, why the gently caress aren't there other solos who get Sandevistan implants as good as V's (hell, just giving some top enemies a thing that makes it so they Sandevistan whenever you do so everything stays full speed), or netrunners who hack you into suicide or death or...whatever. In a lower stakes game the answer is cost and of course some top-tier Corp is going to have someone as borged out as V can get, or as good at netrunning, or whatever, but you just won't see them because you're in a low-stakes game. But when you're regularly storming some of the most powerful places in the world and you're somehow a one-person army and nobody else can challenge you it stretches my imagination when a month before you were some gutter trash with a pair of loaned Kiroshi eyes and a washed up fixer with a gig. The Witcher gives you that out because it flat out tells you why Geralt is special. V explicitly isn't, and they also somehow avoid making the Relic a reason for that specialness. I like having the narrative match the game and a lower-stakes game would do that better, imo.

The game definitely feels like it should have capped at 30 instead of 50. Once you hit 30 (or really once you hit 20 in any stat and start equipping legendaries) the power level dramatically tips in V's favor. On my first playthrough I had 2 stats at 15 and spread the rest of my points around and it felt sufficiently difficult until the end. On my second playthrough when I actually knew what I was doing I went straight for 20 in hacking and I was oneshotting the game by the time I finished the prologue.

If CDPR fixes it so the endgame is balanced, or releases DLC that actually needs over level 30, it will probably make sense.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


They'd need to do more than a little number tweaking to reset the power curve. One little love tap from my katana does like 20 million damage in a game where the endboss has maybe twice that much HP.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender
I'm pretty sure fixing hacker man from destroying the entire game is completely out of scope for this game or DLC.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Tenzarin posted:

I'm pretty sure fixing hacker man from destroying the entire game is completely out of scope for this game or DLC.

It's not just hackerman. The AI has absolutely no answer to Sandevistan either. And the scaling in no way keeps up with stacking crit (and headshot if you want) modifiers for damage, so every attack basically turns into a single shot kill anyway. Hackerman just breaks it a bit faster and sooner.

E: and the Relic/Johnny as a reason for V's power is maybe reasonable except Johnny 's deal is pistols as well as having tons of connections. Yeah he's a powerhouse, but he knows Rogue and a ton of other kickass people to help out, and is enough of a name to kickstart riots whenever he wants. V's got none of that, except maybe pistols if you specc'd that way.

That said it could be cool to steal Apex's Wraith's Voices from the Void ability and have him yell warnings to you.

Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 16, 2021

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get
There's a certain amount of power implied by the additional endings a low level solo wouldn't waltz through the front door of arasaka and go to murdertown but yeah this is definitely one of those Issues that CDPR would need to address if they want the game to be "complete."

I've been out of the loop - has there been any word on whether or not they are fixing the larger design games problems or are they still in "oh poo poo we need to get it running on PS4" mode?

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender
Nothing is happening until cyberpunk is relisted on playstation store.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
The arasaka mikoshi ending is still stuck in my head. The tests and the calls to friends back on Earth who are too busy for you and then the transition to third-person and then your character staring into the camera as the lights go out. And then the voicemails in the credits. I knew it wasn't going to be happy but drat, that's some existential sadness.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Lechtansi posted:

There's a certain amount of power implied by the additional endings a low level solo wouldn't waltz through the front door of arasaka and go to murdertown but yeah this is definitely one of those Issues that CDPR would need to address if they want the game to be "complete."

I've been out of the loop - has there been any word on whether or not they are fixing the larger design games problems or are they still in "oh poo poo we need to get it running on PS4" mode?

Yeah I guess the easiest thing is that V shouldn't be a nobody at the start of the game. Not a legend, no, but not a nobody either. It'd make the catapulting to the levels that they do make a bit more sense to me.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I can accept that it's not V or Johnny but rather the combination of the engram with a person that might supercharge things. I was also level 50 when I took the final plunge so I kind of expected to murderize everything in my path with my 2.6k DPS katana, 200% crit, and +100 movement speed and poo poo. I think I took out Adam in like five hits.

Also, is Yorinobou's long, trailing robe a reference to something? I feel like that style/aesthetic seems really familiar for some reason.

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get

Ravenfood posted:

Yeah I guess the easiest thing is that V shouldn't be a nobody at the start of the game. Not a legend, no, but not a nobody either. It'd make the catapulting to the levels that they do make a bit more sense to me.

The other endings make more sense from where V started - the Arasaka ending V just gives up and lets Arasaka do their thing and in the alternate endings needs either Aldecado's army or Rogues army to get inside. Only the Johnny really matches the Level 30+ power level that you can achieve.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I can accept that it's not V or Johnny but rather the combination of the engram with a person that might supercharge things. I was also level 50 when I took the final plunge so I kind of expected to murderize everything in my path with my 2.6k DPS katana, 200% crit, and +100 movement speed and poo poo. I think I took out Adam in like five hits.

Also, is Yorinobou's long, trailing robe a reference to something? I feel like that style/aesthetic seems really familiar for some reason.

i am guessing its something from japanese cinema or some poo poo. i think its supposed to be like his dads emperor robe or some poo poo.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i am guessing its something from japanese cinema or some poo poo. i think its supposed to be like his dads emperor robe or some poo poo.

Oh - bingo. It's like a sokutai or something. His dad was called "the Emperor".

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Lechtansi posted:

I've been out of the loop - has there been any word on whether or not they are fixing the larger design games problems or are they still in "oh poo poo we need to get it running on PS4" mode?

Ha Ha

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Tenzarin posted:

Nothing is happening until cyberpunk is relisted on playstation store.
It is quite literally insane that it was delisted in the first place, absolutely mind-boggling. That it is still in that state is the one fact which brings me back to thinking that catastrophizing about the state of the game and / or the future of the company might be warranted. PS Digital is such a massive revenue stream to be cut off from, it transcends "PR fiasco". That is an actual crisis that can be quantified in $, probably in the tens of millions at least. Right now you can only get secondhand physical PS4 copies on Amazon (which, why) and no PS5 copies of any kind.

This when it was so clearly angling to be the Oblivion of this generation, something that both moved console units and turned the devs into superstars. What a disaster.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender

Basic Chunnel posted:

This when it was so clearly angling to be the Oblivion of this generation, something that both moved console units and turned the devs into superstars. What a disaster.

Like no one played oblivion, 98% of elder scroll players didn't even know it was called elder scrolls skrim when they started playing it.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply