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El Patron posted:I was bored tonight and ended up watching the Big Show's and Batista's WWE documentaries on netflix. I had always heard it was weight issues that sent him back to OVW, and the WWF was so mad at him, they left him out of the No Mercy game. That ruined the story in the game, because he was replaced by loving Steven Richards  and it made no sense as a result. They left in all of the dialog as if they were talking about Show, they just did a Find & Replace for "SHOW" with "RICHARDS". That, along with the save wipe bug pretty much ruined No Mercy's story mode for me.So yeah, I blame No Mercy's story mode sucking on Big Show being sent to OVW.
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El Patron posted:Secondly, during Batista's documentary he mentioned how awkward it was to work with Booker T at one point as both of them had serious heat with each other backstage. Again they never focused on this much during the film but I wanted to know what caused the bad blood between the two ? IIRC, when Batista was starting to get big on Raw he made some comments in an interview about the guys on Smackdown being lazy or lovely or something (I can't remember exactly, but I think it was in relation to SD being taped). Booker, and others, took offense to Batista talking poo poo when he was still green/lousy in ring. When Batista got moved to Smackdown, he and Booker got into a fist fight over it at a photo shoot.
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Jul 18, 2012 03:14
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Jack Krauser posted:So yeah, I blame No Mercy's story mode sucking on Big Show being sent to OVW. I would always just edit Stevie Richards into The Big Show and ignore the fact Big Show never used a superkick. I think I once also turned him into Shawn Michaels so the superkick made more sense. Then I finally got to see The Rock vs. Shawn Michaels in a feud.
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Lone Rogue posted:I would always just edit Stevie Richards into The Big Show and ignore the fact Big Show never used a superkick. Yes, but No Mercy wouldn't let you edit Titantrons or Music so you'd still have Big Show coming out to "REEREE  REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE REEREE ". gently caress Steven Richards.
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Jack Krauser posted:I had always heard it was weight issues that sent him back to OVW, and the WWF was so mad at him, they left him out of the No Mercy game. That ruined the story in the game, because he was replaced by loving Steven Richards I genuinely don't remember this.  Can someone give me cliffnotes because it sounds surreal and I'm baffled because I played the gently caress out of No Mercy.
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Jul 18, 2012 03:32
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Perry Normal posted:IIRC, when Batista was starting to get big on Raw he made some comments in an interview about the guys on Smackdown being lazy or lovely or something (I can't remember exactly, but I think it was in relation to SD being taped). Booker, and others, took offense to Batista talking poo poo when he was still green/lousy in ring. I enjoy stories that involve Batista trying to be a dick but always failing. It's like a dog that thinks he's people. 
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Jul 18, 2012 03:52
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Bocc Kob posted:I enjoy stories that involve Batista trying to be a dick but always failing. It's like a dog that thinks he's people. You'll eat those words when he beats "Rashid" Evans in his MMA debut.
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Jul 18, 2012 03:55
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I genuinely don't remember this. This video shows it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKsyy30cbk&t=9s Just ignore the spergy guy talking over the video. Daniel Bryan fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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Jul 18, 2012 04:15
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Perry Normal posted:IIRC, when Batista was starting to get big on Raw he made some comments in an interview about the guys on Smackdown being lazy or lovely or something (I can't remember exactly, but I think it was in relation to SD being taped). Booker, and others, took offense to Batista talking poo poo when he was still green/lousy in ring. Iirc they fought when they were shooting the Summerslam poster/video. Batista said Smackdown guys don't get to main event interbrand PPVs because they were used to being taped. Maybe Smackdown-brand PPV's and house shows were always running late and total botchfests. Ironically Batista would spend pretty much the rest of his career on Smackdown and barely got to main event any interbrand PPVs.
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Actually, when Big Show was thinner in WCW, he DID use a Superkick, and still busts it out now and again, I distinctly remember him hitting it on Mark Henry at one point. It's a lot slower than Stevie's or HBK's, but he can do one. This isn't like the legend of the never-seen Moonsault he could supposedly do.
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Yeah it's almost astonishing how quickly Big Show got fat in WWF. When he came in, he was pretty drat impressive looking, but by the time Mania 2000 rolled around he was flabby. Not sure if he had health problems, I assume not if he was sent down to OVW as punishment.
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Yuriy posted:You'll eat those words when he beats "Rashid" Evans in his MMA debut. 
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triplexpac posted:Yeah it's almost astonishing how quickly Big Show got fat in WWF. When he came in, he was pretty drat impressive looking, but by the time Mania 2000 rolled around he was flabby. Not sure if he had health problems, I assume not if he was sent down to OVW as punishment. WWF did/does a lot more house shows than WCW did. It's harder to get workouts in/eat properly when on the road.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Actually, when Big Show was thinner in WCW, he DID use a Superkick, and still busts it out now and again
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Orgophlax posted:He just did it at MitB or one of the RAWs just before it, didn't he? Yeah, to Kane on either the go-home show or the show before.
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Jul 18, 2012 16:05
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triplexpac posted:Yeah it's almost astonishing how quickly Big Show got fat in WWF. When he came in, he was pretty drat impressive looking, but by the time Mania 2000 rolled around he was flabby. Not sure if he had health problems, I assume not if he was sent down to OVW as punishment.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:14
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A big dude's gonna have a big appetite. Show is taller than Andre was, isn't he? And Andre was a legendary eater(And drinker). Dude just doesn't have the time or motivation to try to work that weight off.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:17
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LividLiquid posted:Vince got him liposuction when he came in, actually, and he just put the weight back on very quickly. He was hugely fat in WCW at the end. Show also just quit or was quitting smoking. Towards the end of WCW he did not give a flying gently caress.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:19
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Perry Normal posted:WWF did/does a lot more house shows than WCW did. It's harder to get workouts in/eat properly when on the road. He also just sucks at keeping up with his conditioning. He's followed the same pattern for years, really: He gets fat, disappears for a while, comes back looking thinner than ever (his return for Mayweather comes to mind), but slowly puts the weight back on until he gets to the point that he's gassed by the time he walks to the ring.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:23
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rotinaj posted:A big dude's gonna have a big appetite. Show is taller than Andre was, isn't he? And Andre was a legendary eater(And drinker). Dude just doesn't have the time or motivation to try to work that weight off. Yeah, but only by a couple inches. Andre the Giant was really 6'11" and billed at 7'4", whereas Big Show is actually 7"1' but billed at an even 7".
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Jul 18, 2012 20:28
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According to his DVD, Show's keeping a relatively strict diet nowadays, IIRC. At least he did at the time. He might have relapsed, who knows.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:31
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Suleman posted:According to his DVD, Show's keeping a relatively strict diet nowadays, IIRC. At least he did at the time. He might have relapsed, who knows. Strictly pizzas.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:33
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I remember Big Show being billed at 7'4" in WCW, but they changed it to 7'0" in WWE. Did they just want Andre to be the biggest guy ever or something?
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Jul 18, 2012 20:34
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Suleman posted:According to his DVD, Show's keeping a relatively strict diet nowadays, IIRC. At least he did at the time. He might have relapsed, who knows. That was released in early 2011, though, and filmed in 2010. He's back up to being pretty huge (though he's dropped a little bit of weight since WrestleMania, when he was just fat as all hell).
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This conversation has reminded me of when Giant used his smoking as part of his gimmick for awhile in WCW. I actually enjoyed that whole bit.
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Bocc Kob posted:I remember Big Show being billed at 7'4" in WCW, but they changed it to 7'0" in WWE. Did they just want Andre to be the biggest guy ever or something? There was some adjustments over time to account for previous 7 footers. I'm fairly certain they used to say Undertaker was 7', so when Kane came in they made him 7'2". But then they dropped Undertaker to 6'10" and Kane to 7'0", then Big Show came in and they both dropped down again. There was fairly liberal use of the term "near 7 footer" during that period, from memory.
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I don't think Taker was ever billed as being that tall. He and Kane are both around 6'8" in reality. Big Show might have been 7'1" at his peak but he's no more than 7' now, which is how he's billed.
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The Duck of Death posted:I don't think Taker was ever billed as being that tall. He and Kane are both around 6'8" in reality. Big Show might have been 7'1" at his peak but he's no more than 7' now, which is how he's billed. They called Taker 7 feet tall like all the time, especially in his younger days.
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Jul 19, 2012 02:48
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Why are wrestlers obsessed with poo poo? In no other sport or industry have I heard hazing rituals or scummy stories about people making GBS threads in each others bags.
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budreck posted:Why are wrestlers obsessed with poo poo? In no other sport or industry have I heard hazing rituals or scummy stories about people making GBS threads in each others bags. The bag making GBS threads thing isn't true.
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There has to be some truth if numerous wrestlers have been accused of it for the past 20 years. Didn't Sean Waltman admit to it once?
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budreck posted:There has to be some truth if numerous wrestlers have been accused of it for the past 20 years. Didn't Sean Waltman admit to it once? Oddly enough just two days ago I saw clips of both Nash and Waltman's shoots and they referenced lots of poo poo stories. Waltman put Nash's poo poo in Sunny's sandwich. Nash and "a bunch of the boys" all poo poo into a pie tin and put it in Medusa's bag and did a "shake and bake." She didn't react to it so they never bothered her again. Waltman put "somebody's" poo poo in Sable's bag on her last night.
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budreck posted:There has to be some truth if numerous wrestlers have been accused of it for the past 20 years. Didn't Sean Waltman admit to it once? Oh, I assumed we were talking about the Orton iteration. I honestly have no idea.
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budreck posted:Why are wrestlers obsessed with poo poo? In no other sport or industry have I heard hazing rituals or scummy stories about people making GBS threads in each others bags. Because poop is funny
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Oatgan posted:Because poop is funny Your posts beg to differ.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Oh, I assumed we were talking about the Orton iteration. I honestly have no idea. Even Orton had limits. Who knew?
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Didn't someone (I'd like to say it was Shawn?) poo poo in Lawler's crown too?
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VogeGandire posted:Didn't someone (I'd like to say it was Shawn?) poo poo in Lawler's crown too? According to legend when Lawler came in around 93 every worker in the back who worked for him in Memphis took a dump in it and filled it to the brim. Steve Keirn, the rockers, everybody.
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Supposedly when Sunny had the Godwinn's slop bucket dumped on her a lot of guys jerked off in it beforehand.
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What is it with wrestlers and bodily fluids? Normal workplace, y'know, whoopie cushion or something. Wrestlers, poo poo on other people's belongings.
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