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SirDippingSauce posted:And Lemmy himself has a large collection of Nazi memerobillia :S Who himself has voiced a preference for black women. People are complicated. 
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I checked out some episodes of the Legends of Wrestling Roundtable and each episode turns into a countdown of how long it'll be before Michael Hayes causes me to grind my teeth. I only vaguely remember the Fabulous Freebirds from when I was a kid, but with they way they're brought up (well, when Hayes brings them up) I can't help but to wonder if they were more influential that my dislike of Hayes will allow me to realize. Where they anymore than a footnote or is there any weight to what he's claiming? He also seems to have quite a bit of clout within the WWE. How the heck did that happen?
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Jul 8, 2013 02:28
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I was checking out some OSW Reviews and they reminded me of several wrestlers from when I was a kid that were pretty visible but either consistently unremarkable (Tito Santana) or that I outright loathed (the Bushwhackers, the Nasty Boys). Did any of them have a good match? Edit: I should specify a good match on their own merits, not being carried by someone else.
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drat Maxx, you could get to the ring with a little more urgency when your buddy is being beaten to a pulp with a hockey stick. It's interesting to see the Bushwhackers (née Sheepherders) without the comedy. I think it could've been a hell of a thing to see had they come over to the States with their original gimmick intact. My opinion of the Nasty Boys really hasn't changed much; you could drag anyone off the street to do what they do. Not to mention that they were gassed 2 minutes into the match. It was great seeing that side of Tito, though -- shades of what would become Eddie Guerrero's persona. It's a real shame to see that he wasn't handled better because he could've been a great mid-carder. Instead of, well... 
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Jul 17, 2013 01:40
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DeathChicken posted:That bit in the Tito/Perfect match above where Perfect drops, Tito hops over him, then Perfect raises just enough to trip him has always stuck with me. Just a hilarious dick move. That part really stuck out for me as well.  I'm surprised you don't see things like that more often.sticklefifer posted:YOU TAKE THAT BACK
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Jul 17, 2013 03:54
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I didn't appreciate him enough when I was a kid, but goddamn Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig was amazing.
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Jul 18, 2013 06:18
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Die Laughing posted:Probably. Would be great to see video of though. Apparently Andre had a reputation for being an enforcer of sorts and checking the egos of other wrestlers. There're many stories of wrestlers being legitimately scared of running afoul of Andre.
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Jul 21, 2013 01:02
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Thauros posted:He was apparently pretty good in the '80s, and of course the WWE HOF is basically just a nice way to recognize wrestlers that had a career of a decent length and are on good terms with the WWE. Lots of guys arguably less notable than him like Koko B Ware are in it. In Coco's defense, he at least had charisma, could work and had crowds pop for him.
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Jul 25, 2013 16:25
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Speaking of AA and Spinebuster chat, here are a few gifs: (Click for video.)  And have a spinebuster variant: here are a couple by Ron Simmons (aka Farooq).  
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Jul 26, 2013 05:42
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Is there a move countered more often than the back body drop? I was watching one of the OSW reviews (maybe one of the Wrestlemanias) and I think it was countered virtually every time it was attempted.
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Jul 30, 2013 05:55
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sportsgenius86 posted:Run is too strong of a word but Papa Shango? From what I remember from one of the recent OSW reviews, he was brought in via his buddy the Undertaker and was primed to face...Hogan, I think. But Hogan had left by then and they didn't know what to do with him, so he wound up being fed to the Ultimate Warrior instead.
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Aug 8, 2013 02:48
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Supreme Allah posted:Earthquake killed Damien. He will live in infamy until the sun burns out. Actually what happened here (again from OSW Reviews) was that they had panty hose filled with hamburger meat with a small motor to simulate movement. Afterwards, Earthquake served-up "Damien Burgers" in the back.
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Aug 8, 2013 18:51
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Frankenstein Dad posted:Aside from Benoit's German suplexes and Eddie's Los Tres Amigos, who else has/had a cool multiple suplex, or multiple anything else without breaking the hold move? I don't think he ever employed it in the WWF, but Dan Severn used a nasty double suplex in his UFC fight vs Anthony Macias (skip to the 2:22 mark). Oh yeah, and then there was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0wzIGXUk38&t=44s
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Aug 26, 2013 13:42
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From the OSW review of Wrestlemania 9 it was revealed that Ed Leslie (Brutus Beefcake) had 18 gimmicks over the course of his career. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3SIkVrhQWk&t=3273s Was there any wrestler that had more? And has there been a wrestler that has managed have a long career off of their first gimmick? Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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Sep 4, 2013 15:06
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Bad Wolf posted:Yeah, I remember a promo where all of a sudden, Paul Ellering introduced Animal to Crush as his new partner. I was confused and pissed at the time. I was looking it up, and I thought Hawk got fired for doing all of the drugs, but wikipedia is telling me he left because of the puppet thing. Because at the time, LOD had a ventrilloquist's dummy as a mascott. Because of course they did. Whoever thought that what the freaking Road Warriors really needed at that point in their careers was a freaking dummy must have been high on something, so drugs were involved in one way or another in getting Crush into LOD. Fortunately this is covered in great detail by OSW Review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivhCf3IUw30&t=1175s Also, earlier in that particular match (maybe some 5 minutes before the timestamp) they talk about how Hawk was off his rear end on sedatives during his final match at Summerslam '92. Booking was really a mess back then, geez.
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Sep 5, 2013 13:28
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I was always a sucker for Masahiro Chono's theme and happened across this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7cFGXHvqo What did Onita do to get that kind of heat?
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Sep 9, 2013 05:23
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Has there been a wrestler that has gone on record about hating a gimmick that has gotten them over?
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Sep 15, 2013 18:07
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Ricky Steamboat. I'm not sure if there's any wrestler as universally loved and respected as Steamboat.
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Rodney the Piper posted:Was Rick Rude ever a face? I think very very early in his career he was, but he was predominately known for being a heel. I may have said it here or elsewhere, but his heel gimmick was absolutely incredible. It managed to be over-the-top ridiculous in the 80's, and that's a hell of an accomplishment. I mean, look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8fBLVnf4bk I think it's a gimmick that would still hold up today, but sadly all the edge would be edited out of it. To think that his career was ended by Sting of all people.  Edit: Huh, I've just encountered some rumors that Rude had a reputation was a legitimate tough guy in the business. Would anybody care to elaborate on that? Edit 2: I never much cared for Hulk Hogan as a kid. He was always treated as a big deal, but none of that ever translated in the ring for me. However, nowadays when I run across shoots or fan commentaries I am fascinated by how he may very well be the most reviled figure in wrestling (with many good examples on why) yet be the bar for which every other wrestler measured success. Does Hogan have any friends in the industry aside from those he carried with him (Brutus, Knobbs) or perhaps Bischoff? Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 04:43
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sticklefifer posted:What's the most bullshit finish you've ever seen to a match? I'm not talking about a perfectly sane decision overturned by heel authority figures or anything like that, I mean in terms of stupidly contrived ways that someone got an actual decision in the first place. An insane one was from Wrestlemania 9, the main event of Yokozuna vs. Bret Hart. Bret loses from manager shenanigans (Mr. Fuji threw keyfabe salt into his eyes). Hogan comes out (because he's going to be in the main event whether he's booked to or not) to escort the blinded Bret to the back. From the ring, Yoko and Fuji challenge Hogan. Hogan accepts, runs to the ring, slams Yoko, does the leg drop and 1-2-3. He literally became champ again before Bret made it to the back.
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Sep 20, 2013 17:09
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It seems that the life for women wrestlers & managers in the wrestling business is comparatively bleak. Have there been any particular success stories of female wrestlers or managers within or after the business (nepotism aside)?
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Sep 22, 2013 05:29
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oatgan posted:David Flair was really bad. Even if he'd completed the full training program at the Power Plant odds are he would have been terrible like 90% of their graduates. Here he is honoring the passing of Owen Hart in one of the worst worked matches ever to grace television. When he walked to the ring, I literally said to myself, "oh...that poor thing.  " He's so obviously in over his head that it's a wonder that they even let him walk out there.Question: Akeem the African Dream -- what the gently caress was up with that gimmick? What was the thought process behind it?
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Edit: ^^^ Wow, those were great!  Ghostpilot posted:Speaking of AA and Spinebuster chat, here are a few gifs: Arn's among the most respected men in the business and on top of everything else, redefined the spinebuster. Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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Sep 29, 2013 17:46
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sticklefifer posted:Maybe someday if Bischoff retires and takes asylum in Switzerland, like the wrestling equivalent of Roman Polanski. Here's an in-depth review of Thy Kingdom Come. Seems that there's quite a bit of revisionist history going on in that doc.
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VogeGandire posted:Him losing his poo poo when Flair wins is still so loving good. You can actually see him when the camera pans out going loving CRAZY. Was it something like Flair was a last minute replacement for someone else as the winner of the Rumble and Heenan wasn't aware of the change?
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I just saw a review of Ultimate Warrior vs Golddust from In Your House 7. Can anyone please explain how that came to be? 
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Oct 11, 2013 19:50
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MassRafTer posted:Yeah, the damage that did to his career is pretty amazing. He went from one of the best in the business to unusable. What prompted him to be so thoroughly hosed like that? That gimmick was legendarily bad.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Let me introduce you to my friend Victory Road 2011. I honestly believe that Ric Flair or Shawn Michaels could've carried the lifeless, confused carcass of Jeff Hardy to a 3-star affair or better. Didn't Bischoff come out and basically call an audible for Sting to just put Hardy away? I could be wrong as I just follow wrestling peripherally via podcasts and such (the culture of wrestling is pretty fascinating).
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Whenever I think about checking out a roundtable, I remember that Hayes is on 95% of them (for some reason) and quickly find something else to do.
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sticklefifer posted:Meanwhile nobody said a thing when at the same time Shawn Michaels was parading around in the gayest outfit I've ever seen outside of a pride parade, and a lot of the outfits in one too. Speaking as a gay man, you'll be hard-pressed to top Brutus Beefcake without doing so intentionally.   It was funny watching the cutouts of his pants rise higher and wider with each consecutive PPV appearance.
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I remember him being in the ol' Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling cartoon and he's acknowledged as a WWF/E legend, but I hardly remember a thing about Hillbilly Jim and he's rarely ever mentioned. Is there any particular reason for him to have the reverence he has despite being, at least to me, a seemingly non-entity?
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Oct 18, 2013 23:32
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sk posted:When's the last time someone lost after passing out in a rest hold, with the ref dropping their arm three times? Has that ever happened?
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Hogan?! Really? Y'know what: of course it's Hogan. Edit: They didn't do the three arm drops there, but Hogan put DiBiase down with a sleeper. Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Oct 20, 2013 |
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Oct 20, 2013 23:47
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JPrime posted:What happened to Hogan between WM7 and 1993 where he seemingly lost a ton of muscle definition and just looked instantly older in 2 years? I watched a bit of that video of him vs Muta and he looks so much....older. Just age descending like a freight train? The WWF steroid scandal.
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Minidust posted:I sat in on a few sessions of the trial and this exchange was always my favorite: McDevitt: Please, Mr. Nailz, show us on the doll where Mr. McMahon touched you. Edit: It's crazy to think how close to reality that statement is. Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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MassRafTer posted:Booker T is someone who I'd say works to the level of his opponent. His matches with Benoit were really good. His matches with Martel and Saturn were good. But in WWE he only rarely stood out in the ring, his best run was carried more by his charisma than wrestling. He'd have average matches with random mid carders mostly. Some good tags, but in situations you'd expect it. Then he went to TNA and he had no motivation so he stunk up the joint, sort of on purpose. At his peak he was really good, but people kind of saw that, he was always pointed out as someone WCW was wasting. He did have that big angle with Stone Cold in the late 90's (I think)? I wasn't even watching TV then (much less following wrestling) and heard about their brawl in the supermarket. I asked it a week ago or so, but what happened for Terry Taylor to get saddled with the Red Rooster gimmick? Not that I knew much about him, but he seemed talented and charismatic enough to get over. Also, was there any particular reason why Koko B. Ware wasn't given much of a push? He seemed to fill a void left by JYD and was already over. Just seemed to me that they could have done a lot with him but nothing really materialized. I suspect it was just a matter of being lost in the shuffle of the roster they had at the time, but thought I'd inquire.
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Hirams Bitch posted:Is the void you are speaking of "black guy"? Well, babyface, dancing black guy with an animal theme. That's a niche that doesn't get filled everyday. Seriously, though: Koko was just good-natured exuberance and fun. On top of which he was a good worker. Of course this was at a time where everybody that was a minority or foreigner had a "hard head" gimmick and Piper was running around in blackface over half of his body. Never ceases to amaze me what flew back then. Also, thanks for the answers! Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Perhaps I'm misremembering, but I believe that Hogan vs King Kong Bundy follows that template in which Bundy wins clean over Hogan, kayfabe breaks his ribs to where Hogan had to be stretchered out. Then there were vignettes of Hogan's recovery and training (taped ribs and all) before finally overcoming Bundy in a cage match at WM2 and regaining the belt.
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John Cena posted:Hogan never cleanly lost the belt in that era. Nor was he pinned by Bundy Went and refreshed myself on it: The main feud heading into WrestleMania 2 was between Hulk Hogan and King Kong Bundy, with the two battling over the WWF Championship. Although they had wrestled occasionally beforehand, their first nationally televised encounter was on the November 2, 1985, edition of Saturday Night's Main Event where Hogan teamed up with André the Giant against André's rivals Bundy and Big John Studd. Hogan and André won the match. On March 1, Hogan defended his WWF title against The Magnificent Muraco. Just as Hogan was about to pin Muraco, Bundy ran into the ring and—with Muraco's help—initiated a 2-on-1 assault on Hogan, repeatedly crushing him with his body weight (with a move called the "Avalanche") to break his ribs. Hogan had a very serious scripted injury, while Bundy (gloating over his actions) challenged Hogan for the title. With revenge on his mind, Hogan decided not to heed his doctor's advice and accepted the challenge; a match was then booked between the two in a steel cage for the WWF title. Yeah, you're totally right.  I really should've known better than to think that Hogan would lose clean in the mid-80's.
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