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Sagebrush posted:I'd expect that unless the jackstands are clearly stamped MADE IN USA OUT OF BATTLESHIP STEEL they all come from the same three factories regardless of the manufacturer, and are all equally susceptible to the same types of manufacturing error. The fact that one model number hasn't been recalled doesn't necessarily mean that it hasn't got any hidden problems. Take the extra second to stuff the wheels under the lowest point it'll fit under so if it drops the wheels will catch the car or, at the very least, give you enough lung room to scream for help.
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BigPaddy posted:Assembled in the USA from globally sourced parts. The fully assembled product was shipped to the US where a teenager placed it in the final box and put the "made in USA" sticker on.
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BigPaddy posted:Assembled in the USA from globally sourced parts. I feel attacked.
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xzzy posted:Seems like the only solution you can trust right now is those car stands made out of 2x4's. Have you tried using cinder blocks oriented with the holes facing sideways?
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So do we still trust other brands stands that are basically the same construction? I have these and they look pretty much the same   Weld penetration on the seam of the base is not exactly great
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Sagebrush posted:I'd expect that unless the jackstands are clearly stamped MADE IN USA OUT OF BATTLESHIP STEEL they all come from the same three factories regardless of the manufacturer, and are all equally susceptible to the same types of manufacturing error. The fact that one model number hasn't been recalled doesn't necessarily mean that it hasn't got any hidden problems. I think the manufacturing error was in the ratchet/pawl mechanism, so therefore just buy ones with pins.
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It looks like Grumman LLVs will catch on fire when you run them for 30 years and stop maintaining them because of a manufactured budget crisis. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3ezx4/post-office-delivery-trucks-keep-catching-on-fire
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Safety Dance posted:It looks like Grumman LLVs will catch on fire when you run them for 30 years and stop maintaining them because of a manufactured budget crisis. There's a hotmail joke in there somewhere.
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Safety Dance posted:It looks like Grumman LLVs will catch on fire when you run them for 30 years and stop maintaining them because of a manufactured budget crisis. I'm sure this information will be used to revitalize and overhaul our Postal system before election season... quote:The USPS' Board of Governors appoints the postmaster general, which is supposed to insulate the position a bit from politics. However, the board's members are appointed by the president and approved by the Senate. All current board members are Trump appointees.
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Lol I can think of few better ways to alienate your base than to keep their mail from going through properly. Of course His Orange Majesty will just blame it on "Liberal Progressive Subversive elements." How loving stupid do you have to be to think maintenance is more expensive than a new goddamn unit*, not to mention if there aren't replacement or backup vehicles to be had now you have to redo the route scheme to distribute the load or have a carrier double up on routes. *(I fully recognize there are exceptions to every rule) Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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Beach Bum posted:Lol I can think of few better ways to alienate your base than to keep their mail from going through properly. Destroying the post office means you can’t vote by mail.
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The Grumman LLV is an astonishingly good product made to last 25 years and have routinely lasted beyond 30. This could be used as an argument that it should have been upgraded years ago, but like the B52, the fuckin' things keep on truckin' because American contractors haven't had a loving original design in decades, and it still works. I've been very mad about how much billionaires are ripping apart our government services, and getting away with it. I'm certain the USPS will be gutted before November and I'm being called a chicken little for it.
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Midjack posted:Destroying the post office means you can’t vote by mail. And to replace the post office, we have fully privatized mail delivery run by a company that is in no way connected to Jared Kushner!
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Sagebrush posted:And to replace the post office, we have fully privatized mail delivery run by a company that is in no way connected to Jared Kushner! I love when it costs 18 dollars to send grandma a birthday card.
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Cojawfee posted:I love when it costs 18 dollars to send grandma a birthday card. FedEx will do it for $16.75.
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BigPaddy posted:Assembled in the USA from globally sourced parts. Painted and labeled in the USA.
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Wasabi the J posted:The Grumman LLV is an astonishingly good product made to last 25 years and have routinely lasted beyond 30. by what metric is it an "astonishingly good product" they did let some rural mail delivery people buy RHD subaru outback wagons...just having a normal civilian vehicle that gets replaced every 12 years would most likely have been better
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I'm sorry, but if the mailman doesn't drive the mailman truck my image of America is ruined.
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USPS has their own fleet of tow trucks too!
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BraveUlysses posted:by what metric is it an "astonishingly good product" It is a giant steel box powered by an Iron Duke, apparently they are painful to drive.
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Well I mean, i was going by "doing what it was supposed to out of the box", which is last forever with little maintenance, and after you reminded me of the other shortcomings, I remembered they also just spontaneously combust. But they only catch fire years past their initial due date!
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it's one of my  side-dreams to buy a decommissioned LLV and have it shipped to Japan, where I drive it around in full USPS livery
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NoWake posted:it's one of my Every so often I go searching for foreign scale model communities and the like that specialize in American stuff. I usually have to resort to google translate because I only speak English, but I've found Eastern European tank forums with slavs who stan for the Abrams. I have/want to believe there are Japanese USPS nerds.
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Elviscat posted:It is a giant steel box powered by an Iron Duke, apparently they are painful to drive. they are aluminum, like all other products of the Grumman corporation. such as  or  or 
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Heh, my HF jack stands are 20 years old, the recall doesn't effect me.... Hmmmm........
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It is my understanding that the little triangular front quarter window on the USPS trucks was an intentional design nod to the Apollo capsules' little triangular windows.
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the LLV is poo poo and I believe there were plans in the works to replace them with Transit Connects but that got axed because they are made in Turkey or whatever
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Elviscat posted:It is a giant steel box powered by an Iron Duke, apparently they are painful to drive.  Since they're basically a GM S-truck underneath I've always had the idea in the back of my head to buy one and swap in a full Syclone/Typhoon drivetrain. Imagine sitting at a light and hearing the mail truck next to you power-braking as a turbo spools before taking off. Definitely on the "if I ever win powerball" list.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I'm sorry, but if the mailman doesn't drive the mailman truck my image of America is ruined. My maternal granddad did rural route mail for many years, '60s & '70s, and never once had a government issued delivery vehicle. He drove an early '60s Rambler American 440 sedan, when I became aware of what he did for a living some time in the '70s. HE finally wore it out, but that thing kept trucking for a long time. wolrah posted:Giant aluminum box powered by an Iron Duke. They're not even giant, really. Minivan-sized. The USPS has bigger trucks, of course, but the LLV is pretty small. What always amuses me about the LLV is that the rear track is significantly wider than the front track. It's just weird. edit: I'm not sure the 4.3 will fit in them, but I've not seen under the hood. They may be designed around the iron duke. Of course, *anything* can fit if you want it bad enough... edit 2: according to Wikipedia, the LLV got the 2.2L aluminum head I-4 (it doesn't specify which particular engine designation) later, presumably when the 2.5L Iron Dukes ran out. And the track variation is because it uses 2WD S-10 front suspension, and a 4WD rear axle, which was wider to match the wider front track on the 4x4 S-trucks. Also, LOL, the Wikipedia article already has the info from Vice cited in it. Darchangel fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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I was looking it up on wikipedia. Apparently the front half is from the two wheel drive s-10 blazer, and the back half is from the four wheel drive s-10 blazer. I guess Grumman just wandered into the GM parts bin and started slapping things together. Also, it's really funny to me that Grumman built the lunar lander and the mail truck.
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Wolrah - looks like your dream of a Syclone LLV is attainable. Someone stuffed an LSx in one: https://www.thedrive.com/news/29722/this-retired-usps-delivery-truck-with-an-ls-v-8-swap-can-straight-up-haul-the-mail edit: Cojawfee posted:I was looking it up on wikipedia. Apparently the front half is from the two wheel drive s-10 blazer, and the back half is from the four wheel drive s-10 blazer. I guess Grumman just wandered into the GM parts bin and started slapping things together. Also, it's really funny to me that Grumman built the lunar lander and the mail truck. Yeah, I found that after my post, and edited it in. Makes sense - little more room in the cargo area. Grumman also built tons of larger delivery trucks. My Scoutmaster in Boy Scouts had one we used to haul all our gear and putt the canoe trailer.
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Darchangel posted:Someone stuffed an LSx in one: At this point I'd be more surprised to hear that someone hasn't put a LS motor in a *insert literally any vehicle/chassis here*.
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Safety Dance posted:It looks like Grumman LLVs will catch on fire when you run them for 30 years and stop maintaining them because of a manufactured budget crisis. To be fair, their service life was originally designed to be 20 years, then extended to 24 years long after designed, then the USPS said "no they good for 30 years". They're built on an 80s Chevy S-10 platform with the Iron Duke (not exactly the pinnacle of reliability to begin with), they all have fucktons of miles on them, and all repairs are done as cheaply as possible... when they actually get serviced. The newest ones are 26 years old, the oldest are 33 years old. One of my former coworkers was a letter carrier for several years. She told me there was more than one time when she went through 3 different trucks in the same day, a few times 4-5 trucks in the same day, due to them breaking down in the middle of the route, and she frequently went through at least 2 a day. Tow truck would bring a "running" one and grab the dead one.... rinse, repeat again before the end of her shift. She claimed 3 trucks happened at least once every 2-3 months. I've seen flatbeds with two of them on the bed plus one on the hook more than once, all with hazards flashing. And since the entire body is aluminum, unless you catch the fire super fast, it's going to be impossible to figure out how/what/why the fire started aside from a general area - you're gonna have a pool of melted aluminum around everything. Darchangel posted:edit 2: according to Wikipedia, the LLV got the 2.2L aluminum head I-4 (it doesn't specify which particular engine designation) later, presumably when the 2.5L Iron Dukes ran out. It's the LN2, based on the GM 122 randomidiot fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:At this point I'd be more surprised to hear that someone hasn't put a LS motor in a *insert literally any vehicle/chassis here*. I don't think anyone's done an original Mini, yet. The engine's bigger than the car. Someone proving me wrong in: 4, 3, 2... STR posted:To be fair, their service life was originally designed to be 20 years, then extended to 24 years long after designed, then the USPS said "no they good for 30 years". They're built on an 80s Chevy S-10 platform with the Iron Duke (not exactly the pinnacle of reliability to begin with), they all have fucktons of miles on them, and all repairs are done as cheaply as possible... when they actually get serviced. The newest ones are 26 years old, the oldest are 33 years old. Who knew extending the service life of vehicles that are serviced apathetically at best could have consequences. Ah, yep, there it is. Should have guessed it was the direct replacement in all the other models that used the Iron Duke.
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Darchangel posted:I don't think anyone's done an original Mini, yet. The engine's bigger than the car. I found an Mk IV Mini, but not a Mk I. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0JBOLwHtck Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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Is there info on what causes the LLV fires?
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taqueso posted:Is there info on what causes the LLV fires? Republicans.
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Sagebrush posted:they are aluminum, like all other products of the Grumman corporation. such as Well, not quite all.   I'm now amused that the company that made one of the most prolific Aluminum Body vehicles of all time, also literally manufactured things out of 100% real American Submarine Steel!!!
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Safety Dance posted:I found an Mk IV Mini, but not a Mk I. Whelp, I wasn't wrong about the proving wrong. By "original Mini" I meant not a BMW, so that qualifies. That fits better than I thought it would, actually. I'm just going to assume that the radiator is hiding in the boot.
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I gotta admit, I'm out and about quite a bit and I've never seen a postal truck on a flatbed. What was the deal with staggered wheel distance? Turning radius?
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C-Bangin' it 