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LibCrusher posted:Does your country not have freeway onramps? I can do a pretty good pull on anything with a 55 or higher speed limit in the M3. Doesn't even have to be an onramp.
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On ramps are like the one thing that keeps power from getting boring
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Sep 24, 2020 18:40
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LibCrusher posted:Does your country not have freeway onramps? are you frequently entering an onramp at 0 mph
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Sep 24, 2020 19:23
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:are you frequently entering an onramp at 0 mph Counterpoint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramp_meter
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Sep 24, 2020 19:33
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There's a traffic light at both on-ramps when I'm going to work & coming home, and it's almost always red for me. If I'm lucky I'll get to it with no one in front of me 
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Sep 24, 2020 19:38
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Just lol at anyone not using a ramp meter as a makeshift drag racing tree.
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Sep 24, 2020 19:39
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We don't have those here, but I find empty onramps to come to a complete stop at so I can use launch control.
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Sep 24, 2020 19:44
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Inner Light posted:Counterpoint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramp_meter forgot about those things, i've never lived anywhere that has them. we used to have toll booths though
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Sep 24, 2020 19:52
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Inner Light posted:Counterpoint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramp_meter When I’ve seen those on you won’t need to accelerate much to keep up.
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Sep 24, 2020 19:56
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Virgil Vox posted:When I’ve seen those on you won’t need to accelerate much to keep up. Yeah, that's the obvious rebuttal. Will be pretty heavy traffic at that point.
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Sep 24, 2020 20:02
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Inner Light posted:Yeah, that's the obvious rebuttal. Will be pretty heavy traffic at that point. Not always, many of them are on dumb timers or are metering due to conditions a few miles ahead so I’ve had plenty of times where it meters onto a largely clear freeway.
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Sep 24, 2020 20:06
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Midjack posted:Not always, many of them are on dumb timers or are metering due to conditions a few miles ahead so I’ve had plenty of times where it meters onto a largely clear freeway. Absolutely true too. Maybe these sedans and suvs have power so non car people can merge safely without having to even approach redline, cause when needle at top it’s scary.
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Sep 24, 2020 20:23
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Virgil Vox posted:Absolutely true too. Maybe these sedans and suvs have power so non car people can merge safely without having to even approach redline, cause when needle at top it’s scary. My car made a scary noise 
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Sep 24, 2020 20:25
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Virgil Vox posted:Absolutely true too. Maybe these sedans and suvs have power so non car people can merge safely without having to even approach redline, cause when needle at top it’s scary. "You're hurting it!" - my mom if I rev past 3K
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Sep 24, 2020 20:41
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LibCrusher posted:Does your country not have freeway onramps? KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:are you frequently entering an onramp at 0 mph Get him guys. We found the driver who creeps to the end of the on-ramp, stops, and then tries to accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in 5 feet.
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Sep 24, 2020 20:50
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Anyone that's ever gotten on the old section of the 110 in Highland Park just north of downtown LA knows the importance of 0-60. Every onramp is like this in that section.
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Sep 25, 2020 00:14
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It's been years since I've driven through this intersection in Worcester, MA but acceleration helps in this traffic light-free intersection: Maybe they've installed lights since I was a youngin', but it was hell and a source of tons of accidents.
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Sep 25, 2020 00:20
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Sab669 posted:"You're hurting it!" - my mom if I rev past 3K Well you see if you rev it too high then you'll break up the carbon buildup, which is filling in space in the cylinder and therefore increasing your compression ratio. So really you are decreasing the performance by using the engine as intended and oh dear I've gone cross-eyed.
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Sep 25, 2020 00:44
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Italian Tuneups are cool and good.
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Sep 25, 2020 02:46
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I like it when the car makes the pushy feeling.
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Sep 25, 2020 03:08
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LeeMajors posted:Italian Tuneups are cool and good. That and German brake jobs.
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Sep 25, 2020 05:19
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Sab669 posted:"You're hurting it!" - my mom if I rev past 3K We have an Opel Corsa rental car right now, and I'm seriously impressed by the little 85hp 1.4L 4-banger in it. It'll happily tick along at 50kph at like 1200rpm, smooth as can be and still accelerate just fine from there. Not exactly blistering acceleration of course, but it'll do it smoothly and untroubled. My 2.2L Peugeot 406 couldn't even do that without getting the shakes. It'll also rev to 6.5K very eagerly if that's what you want. Modern engines, man. Maybe it's just the ridiculous contrast from the Mitsubishi Mirage/Space Star I just drove for 1½ weeks in Germancy, but that little Corsa is just a pleasure to drive. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 12:31
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Ultimate Mango posted:That and German brake jobs. Wait until you hear about the French and the Greek
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Sep 25, 2020 13:56
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KozmoNaut posted:We have an Opel Corsa rental car right now, and I'm seriously impressed by the little 85hp 1.4L 4-banger in it. It'll happily tick along at 50kph at like 1200rpm, smooth as can be and still accelerate just fine from there. Not exactly blistering acceleration of course, but it'll do it smoothly and untroubled. My 2.2L Peugeot 406 couldn't even do that without getting the shakes. It'll also rev to 6.5K very eagerly if that's what you want. Modern engines, man. At this point I'm not sure if you're just trolling us. Any car that can't smoothly drive at and accelerate from 30 mph that isn't more than 50 years old should probably be crushed.
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Sep 25, 2020 14:11
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:At this point I'm not sure if you're just trolling us. Any car that can't smoothly drive at and accelerate from 30 mph that isn't more than 50 years old should probably be crushed. The Mitsubishi sure as hell couldn't accelerate from 50kph in top gear. It could barely accelerate in 4th from that speed, and just forget about it on any kind of incline. The Renault Captur I had before that would do it, but only very reluctantly and very much lugging the engine. It's been a common characteristic of every small car I've ever driven. Neither have the 3-cylinder Corsa, the Opel Grandland X, the Hyundai i20, the Peugeot 208 nor the Citroën C3 I've had as rental cars recently. I've driven diesels that lugged at 1000rpm in top gear, so I dunno, maybe you've only driven torque monsters? KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 14:19
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Assuming a little tolerance for hyperbole, this matches my recollection. My first couple cars would have been pretty pathetic in top gear at 30mph. They might have accelerated but they'd have done it in a slow, groaning, unpleasant way.
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Sep 25, 2020 15:16
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why are you accelerating in high gear  KozmoNaut posted:The Mitsubishi sure as hell couldn't accelerate from 50kph in top gear. It could barely accelerate in 4th from that speed, and just forget about it on any kind of incline. The Renault Captur I had before that would do it, but only very reluctantly and very much lugging the engine. It's been a common characteristic of every small car I've ever driven. Neither have the 3-cylinder Corsa, the Opel Grandland X, the Hyundai i20, the Peugeot 208 nor the Citroën C3 I've had as rental cars recently.
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Sep 25, 2020 15:17
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Skipopatomus posted:why are you accelerating in high gear This. Top gear in cars is generally for fuel efficient highway cruising, not accelerating out of a school zone. Even at 400+ horsepower, my Mustang struggles to accelerate under 45mph in 6th.
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Sep 25, 2020 15:21
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Skipopatomus posted:why are you accelerating in high gear "Accelerating" as in "lightly increasing pressure on the accelerator to sedately go from 50 to 70kph". The economy indicator arrows suggest 5th gear at 50kph, and I was merely surprised at how butter smooth it was.
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Sep 25, 2020 15:26
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KozmoNaut posted:The Mitsubishi sure as hell couldn't accelerate from 50kph in top gear. It could barely accelerate in 4th from that speed, and just forget about it on any kind of incline.  You know this can cause a small turbo engine to go boom, right? KozmoNaut posted:"Accelerating" as in "lightly increasing pressure on the accelerator to sedately go from 50 to 70kph". So you're saying it doesn't accelerate when you don't press the pedal hard? Really? Also, the economy indicators are for maintaining speed. You need to downshift when you accelerate. You should be in second or third depending on your gearing.
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Sep 25, 2020 15:28
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small displacement small turbocharger engines are pretty cool but you should take care not to lug them too much
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:At this point I'm not sure if you're just trolling us. Any car that can't smoothly drive at and accelerate from 30 mph that isn't more than 50 years old should probably be crushed. Rental Versas should be crushed 
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Sep 25, 2020 18:03
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KillHour posted:
I've been driving small-displacement manual cars for 17 years, you know  Heavy throttle at low revs is especially bad for small displacement turbo engines, and I never do that on any engine anyway. These are all naturally-aspirated engines (85hp from a 1.4L turbo four would be kinda sad), plus I use quite light throttle inputs at low revs, especially in higher gears. Even in lower gears I feed in the throttle instead of treating it like an on/off switch. All y'all seem hell-bent on passing judgment on my driving skills from a few misunderstood sentences. quote:So you're saying it doesn't accelerate when you don't press the pedal hard? Really? Also, the economy indicators are for maintaining speed. You need to downshift when you accelerate. You should be in second or third depending on your gearing. It's perfectly fine to use a small bit of extra throttle input to slightly increase speed as you're tootling along from a 50kph zone to a 60 or 70kph zone, as long as you're not bogging the engine. Obviously you downshift if you need to accelerate sharply, but not every acceleration needs to be full-tilt. There's no need to downshift into 3rd or 2nd to sedately add a bit of speed when <5% additional throttle input will do it just fine. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:small displacement small turbocharger engines are pretty cool but you should take care not to lug them too much It's just basic mechanical sympathy, you can feel when an engine isn't happy and struggles to do what you ask it. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 18:17
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KozmoNaut posted:but not every acceleration needs to be full-tilt. Uhh 
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Sep 25, 2020 18:37
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borkencode posted:Rental Versas should be crushed Yes. With the engineers responsible for them inside.
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Sep 25, 2020 19:03
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KozmoNaut posted:but not every acceleration needs to be full-tilt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZrRkD9Roms
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Sep 25, 2020 19:27
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The only acceptable light use of the go pedal is like me this morning babying the car with the tank on empty so I can get to work before filling the tank because lazy.
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Sep 25, 2020 19:59
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Olympic Mathlete posted:The only acceptable light use of the go pedal is like me this morning babying the car with the tank on empty so I can get to work before filling the tank because lazy. Or to avoid braking as much as possible because one of the pads is gone
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Sep 25, 2020 20:47
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KozmoNaut posted:The Mitsubishi... Disgruntled Bovine posted:...should probably be crushed. I rest my case.
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Cars are going to be so much cooler and better once there's an energy storage solution that's at least an order of magnitude more energy dense and/or faster to recharge than current battery technology, too bad we'll all be either dead or just plain old as poo poo by then
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