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readingatwork posted:Did the show ever deal with the fact that Amon was absolutely right in every conceivable way? He even came up with a non-violent solution to the country's crippling inequality problem. Yes, they have a scene where Toph explicitly tells Korra that all of her enemies had legitimate points and she could learn from them even if they ultimately were Bad Guys.
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uncleKitchener posted:Anyone remember SWAT Kats? I remember it being a fun show, but haven't watched it in more than a decade, so I don't know if it has aged well or not, considering it's been more than 10 years since it last aired. I never watched the whole show since I was too distracted with HBO Spawn. If you can get past the general premise it's ok but it's one of those shows where they set up a lot of stuff and then they get cancelled before they follow up on any of it.
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Jun 8, 2015 14:31
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uncleKitchener posted:Has there been any reveal as to why LOK ended up half good half bad throughout the years? Some people blame Nick while others say the creators also didn't press all the right buttons the whole time. The only real issue with Season 1 is the flub of the last ~5 minutes or so (post Amon reveal), but that could have easily been executed better. Everything else was nerd projection of the same variety as the Cthulu stuff in True Detective. Season 2 was again people being mad that the bad guy was clearly the bad guy, and sub-par animation for the first half didn't help. Also, as (sorta) mentioned above Season 3 of the original series was also flubbed about as badly. Really I think the only parts people liked about the original series were Zuko, and without a similar sort of "Bad guy who turns good but not really(?)" character then fans' expectations would never be met.
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mycot posted:
Iroh is basically Zuko as an old man/after his turn to good. I'm actually very glad that they managed to differentiate him in Korra.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:20
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ElCondemn posted:I don't agree, nobody could metal bend, few could use lighting, even healing with bending was novel. Sure bending is part of the universe, but there is a big difference between normal every day benders having god powers and just a few special people having them. Bending is god powers, even if it's just the ability to lift a rock.
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Jun 24, 2015 01:23
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SlothfulCobra posted:There was also the weird thing where the ability to use advanced bending techniques turns from the product of extensive training and enlightenment into this weird thing where it's predestined whether or not you have the innate ability? It's exactly the same logic behind Combustion Man.
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Jun 24, 2015 02:08
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achillesforever6 posted:This is probably one of the best episodes of Hey Arnold, I mean hell its amazing to see a kids show discuss the Vietnam War. We're pretty close to the point right now where someone like Grandpa Simpson would be a Vietnam vet at his original age.
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Jun 25, 2015 06:15
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Sleeveless posted:IIRC a lot of the goodwill that the beginning of the first season got was based on the fact that it seemed to be building up to something meaningful with the way that the conflict seemed to be based around class struggle and ableism and they seemed to be building some degree of ambiguity if not outright empathy around the villain and Korra seemed like an interesting protagonist. But then they wound up throwing it all away and having the villain just be unambiguously evil because reasons and somehow being less complex than a show aimed at a younger audience made a decade ago and Korra wound up being such a dull protagonist that the most memorable part of the entire series is the part where she's in a coma and completely absent. You remembered wrong. The overarching plot of Season 1 is a simple revenge plan that has fancy set dressings. It's more or less the exact same structure as The Dark Knight Rises, though people do seem to lose their poo poo about that in ways I can't understand.
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Jun 27, 2015 16:22
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MrAristocrates posted:Because the twist makes both of those stores fundamentally less interesting. It's not hard to grasp. The level of bile directed against both properties suggests a fundamentally deeper reason then just "oh this is less interesting now". In the case of Batman I honestly don't think most people understand the movie because they spend most of their time nitpicking at stuff like "how did Bruce get back from the Middle East so quickly".
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Jun 27, 2015 16:33
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icantfindaname posted:The problem is the message of "well social injustice sucks, but the commie-fascist lefties are worse" or "political extremism is bad kids, the truth is in the middle". Uh, if anything the message of Season 1 is that violent protests and attempted revolutions are required to achieve social progress. The non benders get exactly what they want at the end of S1.
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Jun 28, 2015 06:28
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ElCondemn posted:I don't think there was an underlying political message, I think it was overt. What else could it be about? The main storyline featured a bunch of revolutionaries attempting to overthrow the government. Then the following seasons had more political stuff too, ATLA was all eastern philosophy and LoK was all western politics and religion. Everything in LoK was featured in Chinese history to one degree or another (obviously minus the overtly magic stuff).
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Jun 29, 2015 05:03
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icantfindaname posted:Republic City is doing absolutely fine by itself. It's literally just "radical politics bad". That's it. Actually it's "radical politics get you what you want".
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Jun 29, 2015 06:09
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ElCondemn posted:That may be what happened but I don't think that was the intended message. Authors' intentions are not very interesting.
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Jun 29, 2015 06:42
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ElCondemn posted:I'm not talking about the author, I'm talking about the work. The work did not indicate that revolution was good for republic city, just because it happened in the story doesn't make it a good thing for the story. The lesson the story is telling us wasn't "radical politics get you what you want", it was probably something to do with the fact that a bunch of racists were committing violent attacks against benders. Maybe something like "hating people for being different is bad" or something, it's a kids show. When I say radical politics get what you want, I mean in the MLK vs Malcolm X sense of "violent politics allows concessions to be wrung out of the ruling class". And that is exactly what happened.
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Jun 29, 2015 07:29
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ElCondemn posted:That wasn't the message of the show. If the message was "radical politics bad" then the side that primarily supported the radical politics wouldn't have been pandered to at the end.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:11
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Crabtree posted:Did you not see the link to a new Danger Mouse show several posts above you? Doesn't matter if one of them is more culturally relevant, if people still like Scooby Doo, Danger Mouse, Tom and Jerry, Mickey, Tintin and Popeye, despite how many decades old they admit they are in their own ads, people will successfully sell them off to a new crowd or at least to a new crowd of investors. Everything old is new, etc. The thing about really old stuff is that it kinda loops back into being novel again. Like the Tin-Tin film was in a 1920s aesthetic but anyone under 100 wouldn't remember that so it's almost a fantasy aesthetic. On the other hand, you don't see stuff for (eg) He-Man except in those car commercials.
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Jul 16, 2015 04:19
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drrockso20 posted:apparently there's a Kickstarter to bring back SWAT KATS, kinda hope it succeeds cause we need more more Action focused cartoons right now These days it should probably be DRONE KATS.
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raditts posted:*click link* I did exactly the same thing.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:35
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BioEnchanted posted:Anyone else really looking forward to the Netflix Series of Unfortunate Events? I love the books and am looking forward to seeing some of the later locations in Live Action, especially the Heimlich Hospital and Hotel Denouement. It's the sort of series that would work with the minimal CGI we're used to in TV today.
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Aug 28, 2015 14:24
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Jsor posted:Yes, thank you. One of the reasons I kept watching Steven Universe was it kept being positive and characters in the show were actually nice and supportive to each other. I had gotten exhausted of cartoons for a while around the mid 2000s because everything was a constant barrage of assholes and cynicism. To some degree it started in the Cartoon Cartoon era; Dexter and Ed Edd n Eddy were definitely like this, but for a while it felt like every show had to be about bad things happening to assholes and I got tired of it. I'm a sucker for Hero's Adventure stuff so my main issue with that era (other than literally growing out of the demographic) was that there wasn't really any of that except Ben 10. I won't say it's the serial aspect that appealed to me either because I think I only ever caught Ben 10 on reruns.
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Aug 30, 2015 23:53
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mycot posted:I definitely noticed that period of overwhelmingly jerk based comedy (and the deliberate rejection of it that seems to be going on these days), but I still have no clue what was the cause or reason of it. Was it just the general zeitgeist? Did Mascots with Tude end up turning into mascots that are giant assholes? Is there some massively popular character/show in that time period that I'm forgetting? I don't know. I mean it was fairly common even during the 90s. Looking at the Cartoon Cartoon shows, you have:
and then a bunch of random stuff. Not the best track record if you're trying to avoid assholes.
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Mr Interweb posted:Wait, Shrek? I'm not a fan of that franchise, but Shrek wasn't a jerk. He just wanted to be left alone. The cartoons I mentioned predate it pretty significantly too. I dunno, it's also possible there was just an extreme culture shift away from that sort of stuff. Like I don't think Johnny Bravo would be approved today even though he's (mostly) a well meaning moron.
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Y-Hat posted:It used to be that cable networks appealed to niche audiences and did it well. Nah, they never did. Very few cable channels made a profit, that's why bundling was and is so rampant. What you're seeing right now is a collapse of the traditional cable market (where channels = $$$) and reorganizing so that content is what gets revenue. The ability (and expectation ) to play things on demand is also a major game changer
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Jack Gladney posted:Why are AV Club adults giving serious reviews to children's cartoons? Their demographic wants it.
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So are there any other nerd favorite animated shows that got cancelled early that we can expect a reboot of in the next few years?
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Oh yeah I guess Time Squad would be cool too.
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frank.club posted:ST was still cool but I was a kid when Clone Wars and SJ were released. So either way they're gonna edge it out for me That's why you won't see Symbionic Titan for another decade, because the people with money want to relive their childhood with Samurai Jack .
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Dec 13, 2015 21:07
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Babe Magnet posted:my favorite dexter's lab episode is a tie between the opera episode and every single Justice Friends episode There's also the child's submission episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAT9nkGZa08
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Dec 15, 2015 06:45
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Saying "tumblr is full of anime porn" is like saying "Google is full of anime porn": only if you go looking for it.
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Dec 19, 2015 15:45
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raditts posted:Ben 10, didn't the last one of those just die off 2-3 years ago? Last year actually. I'm surprised at this franchise's longevity - the show was on pretty much consistently for a decade, and then they had five movies, of which two were live action for reasons unknown. This isn't even getting into all of the video games and other merchandise.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:54
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Lady Naga posted:When did Adventure Time start sucking? Flame Princess?
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PenguinKnight posted:Pelswick? Yes, yes I do remember that show. Good god that was a really bad one. Oh yeah, I remember that one just because of that episode where he wanted a Magic the Gathering card but his bully had it.
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Jan 11, 2016 06:50
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So has anyone seen the 1992 pilot/student film for the Powerpuff Girls, because it's insane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APnZCdiStKI
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Applewhite posted:Yeah but back then they were all copying PPG. Assuming we mean the "Cartoon Cartoons", PPG was actually one of the last ones released then. The only other major one was Ed, Edd n Eddy. (There was Courage the Cowardly Dog too but he's a little more distinct from the PPG art style).
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Feb 12, 2016 18:50
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mycot posted:Yeah I was going to say I always got an Animaniacs vibe from the Collector episode. Lest we forget, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQyuNpzp29E
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Feb 16, 2016 02:42
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The Silver Snail posted:A guy who has opinions about cartoons whose blog I read thought it was bad. It was decent, had a pretty fair message too. If there's any criticism I would give it it's that Bubbles had about three sentences worth of dialogue. Note: I am blissfully ignorant of most of the backstage drama.
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Mar 16, 2016 20:06
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Animaniacs is on Netflix now.
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raditts posted:They rebranded sometime last year as well and threw out all the retro-60s aesthetic and all those short animations they used to have between shows in favor of giving the channel a younger focus. They made a Boomerang 2 that has all the original Boomerang stuff on it now. Or maybe I'm just thinking of their VOD service.
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Pakled posted:I liked all the really bad crossover shows where they just mashed together every Hanna-Barbera character in what I can only assume began as repeated attempts to recapture the popularity of Wacky Races. Laff-a-lympics (featuring renamed, recolored versions of Dastardly and Muttley because I guess they somehow lost the license to their own characters?), Yogi's Space Race, Yogi's Gang, Yogi's Treasure Hunt, and loving Yo Yogi. After Scooby Doo became a hit, they had literally a dozen different shows where the premise was "group of teenagers plus wacky sidekick/titular character". Pretty much all of them were bad and never seen again. I think my favorite one was this one with a werewolf who could change by looking at photographs of the sun or moon.
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