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Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

MURALI



Head Over Heels is great too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3R3yysXq4I

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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

That new No Joy was quite the trip ... no song quite the same. It was very jarring at first, especially track 2, Dream Rats was perhaps the most aggressive-sounding thing they've done.

The final track, Kidder, really stands out for me and is really evocative of Curve. It's almost like every song is inspired by a different band. Got a sense of like Stars, M83 on other tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxe-SajjSjI

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

Heaven or Las Vegas is 30 years old!

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

Vichan posted:

Heaven or Las Vegas is 30 years old!

huh, so it is! hbd to the best record ever released by 4AD.

https://twitter.com/4AD_Official/st...0580043776?s=20

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG!!!




Bleak Gremlin

Vichan posted:

Heaven or Las Vegas is 30 years old!

was similarly taken back by when Massive Attack's Mezzanine first dropped

Happy Birthday

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

I can't remember
what she came here for

I can't remember
much of anything
anymore




Vichan posted:

Heaven or Las Vegas is 30 years old!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

That album is a masterpiece

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG!!!




Bleak Gremlin

If you don't know the Cocteaus or this album, consider what is probably my favourite song of theirs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Mqftd6h-E
This is just a masterwork of building and releasing tension.

In the first bit, listen to Elizabeth and the piano. Note how the piano is just *a smidge* behind her. Her voice here is right on beat, but because the piano is a little off it creates a little discordance, and starts the tension in the listener. Then, as she builds towards the chorus, she abruptly stops and loops back. That lack of resolution amps up the tension.

Then the beat drops after a second time through, around 1:50, and releases all that pent up tension. It literally takes my breath away. You feel swept forward as if by a strong breeze.

Next verse with the full instrumentation note now the piano and her voice are on beat. This serves to my ear to really drive the song forward with greater pace even though the tempo hasn't changed. (There also seems to be a shift from minor to major keys but I do not have perfect pitch and am probably wrong on that.)

It's just magnificent.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


The Clientele have released a cover of Closer by Shack which is well worth listening to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigoAEb9yNI

If you like it, hop over to their Bandcamp page and make a donation - all money raised for the next 9 months will be going to support Black Lives Matter.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



After watching the recent linked Cocteaus stuff on YT, and the resulting suggestion algorithm, I got sent down a pretty deep Lush rabbit hole. The music video for Sweetness And Light appeared in the sidebar and I was intrigued by the thumbnail (Emma's somber-looking head on a glowing white background) so I clicked and I loved it. That tune is absolutely narcotic. I already had their Split album in my library, probably from someone linking Desire Lines in this thread, but I hadn't listened to it much, and I hadn't heard any of their other stuff (except Lovelife a long time ago, and I didn't care for it). 5 days later, and I've watched like, all of their live footage, interviews, read all the wikipedia articles, and bought Gala and Spooky. Also discovered Starlust off of Split as a 2nd favorite. This is really good stuff, I'm thoroughly enjoying the guitars and vocals. It makes me want to pick up a guitar and a chorus pedal and learn how to play in this style. They do use some distortion here and there but I think the real treat is the clean guitar, it is heavenly. Welp that's my trip report.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

Ofecks posted:

After watching the recent linked Cocteaus stuff on YT, and the resulting suggestion algorithm, I got sent down a pretty deep Lush rabbit hole. The music video for Sweetness And Light appeared in the sidebar and I was intrigued by the thumbnail (Emma's somber-looking head on a glowing white background) so I clicked and I loved it. That tune is absolutely narcotic. I already had their Split album in my library, probably from someone linking Desire Lines in this thread, but I hadn't listened to it much, and I hadn't heard any of their other stuff (except Lovelife a long time ago, and I didn't care for it). 5 days later, and I've watched like, all of their live footage, interviews, read all the wikipedia articles, and bought Gala and Spooky. Also discovered Starlust off of Split as a 2nd favorite. This is really good stuff, I'm thoroughly enjoying the guitars and vocals. It makes me want to pick up a guitar and a chorus pedal and learn how to play in this style. They do use some distortion here and there but I think the real treat is the clean guitar, it is heavenly. Welp that's my trip report.

lush was one of my absolute favs when i was a kiddo (still is i suppose), i had a vhs(!) tape with a bunch of early 90s music videos on it, had the video for Nothing Natural. played the poo poo out of that thing.

that video makes me laugh now because I read an interview with Emma and Miki and they were like "they were blowing this giant fan in our faces for an hour, it really hosed up our eyes" and now it's the only thing i can think about when i see the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUuCXE6nnNs

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



uber_stoat posted:

that video makes me laugh now because I read an interview with Emma and Miki and they were like "they were blowing this giant fan in our faces for an hour, it really hosed up our eyes" and now it's the only thing i can think about when i see the video.

Ha, Emma rolls her eyes at one point in the video. At least it kinda looks like that. Now I know why! I appreciate the work and effort musicians put into their music vids, doesn't sound particularly fun to make them. Although the videos from Lovelife are amusingly goofy, they look a lot happier in those. My story with that album is that I got it when it was current, probably from Columbia House or BMG. I hadn't had a CD player long so I was trying out a lot of stuff. Not sure why I picked Lovelife... whatever description they had in the catalog probably piqued my interest. But I didn't like it at all. Guess I was in a phase where if it wasn't excessively loud and lacked massive amounts of fuzz I wasn't interested. These days I can appreciate the BritPop stuff much more but Lovelife is just so flat and rigid compared to their marvelous earlier works.

Is there a fansite or similar online location that has a curated collection of interviews and live footage and whatnot? Took me hours to fall asleep last night because certain passages from Sweetness, De-luxe, and Starlust would not stop in my head.

Also, anyone know if the 2015 CD box set are re-issues or re-masters? 4AD's site is sold out, otherwise I would have bought that instead of digital. Noticed right away that Gala and Spooky are very quiet recordings. They will be joining my pile of "turn this one up" albums along with Pretty Hate Machine, You'd Prefer An Astronaut, and Siamese Dream (and probably others which escape current memory).

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

Miki's Twitter account is worth a follow ... full of old photos and trivia https://twitter.com/berenyi_miki

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

Ofecks posted:


Is there a fansite or similar online location that has a curated collection of interviews and live footage and whatnot? Took me hours to fall asleep last night because certain passages from Sweetness, De-luxe, and Starlust would not stop in my head.

Also, anyone know if the 2015 CD box set are re-issues or re-masters? 4AD's site is sold out, otherwise I would have bought that instead of digital. Noticed right away that Gala and Spooky are very quiet recordings. They will be joining my pile of "turn this one up" albums along with Pretty Hate Machine, You'd Prefer An Astronaut, and Siamese Dream (and probably others which escape current memory).

Light From a Dead Star is the big Lush fansite.

https://www.lightfromadeadstar.org/

I have that cd set and if it wasn't in storage i'd check, but i'm pretty sure the cds were just reissues. like 5 years later and I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing one of the vinyl box sets. I still don't have Split on vinyl. I do have a really cool double 10inch copy of Spooky, has that beautiful 4AD sleeve design as per usual.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


uber_stoat posted:

Light From a Dead Star is the big Lush fansite.

https://www.lightfromadeadstar.org/

I have that cd set and if it wasn't in storage i'd check, but i'm pretty sure the cds were just reissues.

They do appear to be reissues. All five albums come with B-sides and remixes, though - it's the Complete Lush excluding only the EP from the brief reformation.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG!!!




Bleak Gremlin

Ofecks posted:

After watching the recent linked Cocteaus stuff on YT, and the resulting suggestion algorithm, I got sent down a pretty deep Lush rabbit hole. The music video for Sweetness And Light appeared in the sidebar and I was intrigued by the thumbnail (Emma's somber-looking head on a glowing white background) so I clicked and I loved it. That tune is absolutely narcotic. I already had their Split album in my library, probably from someone linking Desire Lines in this thread, but I hadn't listened to it much, and I hadn't heard any of their other stuff (except Lovelife a long time ago, and I didn't care for it). 5 days later, and I've watched like, all of their live footage, interviews, read all the wikipedia articles, and bought Gala and Spooky. Also discovered Starlust off of Split as a 2nd favorite. This is really good stuff, I'm thoroughly enjoying the guitars and vocals. It makes me want to pick up a guitar and a chorus pedal and learn how to play in this style. They do use some distortion here and there but I think the real treat is the clean guitar, it is heavenly. Welp that's my trip report.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

uber_stoat posted:

that video makes me laugh now because I read an interview with Emma and Miki and they were like "they were blowing this giant fan in our faces for an hour, it really hosed up our eyes" and now it's the only thing i can think about when i see the video.

LMAO I always wondered why they looked so uncomfortable.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



uber_stoat posted:

Light From a Dead Star is the big Lush fansite.

https://www.lightfromadeadstar.org/

This is quite the gold mine. Thank you for the link. Especially cool is the complete lyric collection, verified by the songwriters. I was previously reading them from some site called Genius-something, which apparently has a lot of them incorrect. Now I need to hunt around for some guitar tabs, and I guess a Telecaster and a 12-string and a bunch of other stuff to play them on (*gulp*).

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG!!!




Bleak Gremlin

Your post had me listen to Spooky while working this afternoon. They are really good.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



Monochrome is amazing. Much like Desire Lines, though, Emma put in a striking passage (the chorus) that shines right through the darkness. Brilliant songwriting. On the whole, I think I like her songs a lot better than Miki's. Although I said "holy poo poo" out loud the first time I heard Baby Talk.

e: apparently De-Luxe was on Rock Band 2?!? I had that game like 11 years ago but don't remember playing that particular song on it. Pretty sure I tried all of them. Maybe the odd time signature of the verse turned me off. Back then, I wasn't big into shoegaze yet, anyway.

Ofecks fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Sep 24, 2020

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood


Bilirubin posted:

If you don't know the Cocteaus or this album, consider what is probably my favourite song of theirs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Mqftd6h-E
This is just a masterwork of building and releasing tension.

In the first bit, listen to Elizabeth and the piano. Note how the piano is just *a smidge* behind her. Her voice here is right on beat, but because the piano is a little off it creates a little discordance, and starts the tension in the listener. Then, as she builds towards the chorus, she abruptly stops and loops back. That lack of resolution amps up the tension.

Then the beat drops after a second time through, around 1:50, and releases all that pent up tension. It literally takes my breath away. You feel swept forward as if by a strong breeze.

Next verse with the full instrumentation note now the piano and her voice are on beat. This serves to my ear to really drive the song forward with greater pace even though the tempo hasn't changed. (There also seems to be a shift from minor to major keys but I do not have perfect pitch and am probably wrong on that.)

It's just magnificent.

man that is a good description. My fav song of theirs

Nothing has a new song out. I do like this new faster and darker direction! I was kinda disappointed with the previous album for being too mellow (though it really grew on me), so this seems like a good change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezc-BxML-ZM

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



Nothing has a second video for that album, just released yesterday. It's kinda gory (even the thumbnail) so I won't post it here but it's called "Bernie Sanders".

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

MEAN MUGGIN'



https://twitter.com/foryrlungsonly/...107594545602561

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals

Fun Shoe

I'm not sure why I'm attempting to post right after that masterpiece of a tweet, but, Andy Bell of Ride and Oasis has a new solo record out, its very psychedelic and shoegazey and quite solid on the whole.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004



I have been trying to find people who will appreciate just how incredible this recording is, and I think this may be the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M3rs6Vm5c#t=12s

I've been a big fan of New Order for too long and this is really the best recording of one of their shows I've found in terms of both sound/video quality and the quality of the performance. Just doesn't get much better than this IMO, this was right after they had just written Hurt and Temptation (early version of which close out the show) and just... yeah, this is my fave era of New Order by far. Stephen Morris is so tremendous, especially in the first song.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB7iPiFExN4

Shoegaze keeps pulling me back in. What a great song.

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004



kaworu posted:

I have been trying to find people who will appreciate just how incredible this recording is, and I think this may be the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M3rs6Vm5c#t=12s

I've been a big fan of New Order for too long and this is really the best recording of one of their shows I've found in terms of both sound/video quality and the quality of the performance. Just doesn't get much better than this IMO, this was right after they had just written Hurt and Temptation (early version of which close out the show) and just... yeah, this is my fave era of New Order by far. Stephen Morris is so tremendous, especially in the first song.

Less than a year after Ian died and Joy Division ended and they were pulling that off.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

Happy 30th anniversary!

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

teethgrinder posted:

Happy 30th anniversary!



1990 was a big year for This Thing of Ours. here's another 30 year old.



November has some too.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



Which Lush EP is that? Going to guess Sweetness and Light. I bought Gala just to be efficient so I'm not familiar with the individual covers.

kaworu posted:

I have been trying to find people who will appreciate just how incredible this recording is, and I think this may be the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M3rs6Vm5c#t=12s

I don't think there is a post-punk thread. I'd lump NO in with Depeche Mode as electronic-leaning post-punk but since This Thing is (directly?) influenced by it, I'd say your decision was correct.

Vichan posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB7iPiFExN4

Shoegaze keeps pulling me back in. What a great song.

This track is indeed good, but I bought the album based off of earlier thread suggestions and found the rest of it rather disagreeable.

teethgrinder posted:

Happy 30th anniversary!



Nice, I have that one too! I'll give it a listen in full later tonight. FWIW, it's the 4th suggested result when you type "nowhere" into wikipedia.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

Ofecks posted:

Which Lush EP is that? Going to guess Sweetness and Light. I bought Gala just to be efficient so I'm not familiar with the individual covers.


yeah, it's Sweetness and Light. Gala's birthday is in November.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

the collision of post punk and shoegaze makes me think of these guys. i imagine getting an entire album like this instead of just the ep and i'm like... oof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtNjSEEsFTc

https://twitter.com/BlushingBand/st...5914406912?s=20

uber_stoat fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 16, 2020

Duck Stab!
Oct 21, 2020

HERE I COME, CONSTANTINOPLE!




This song's been stuck in my head for a couple weeks. I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jtejnvza2U

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

Duck Stab! posted:

This song's been stuck in my head for a couple weeks. I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jtejnvza2U

felt rules. can you guess which huge 80s stadium filling band ripped this song off for one of their best singles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLLqp4qurEE

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



uber_stoat posted:

felt rules. can you guess which huge 80s stadium filling band ripped this song off for one of their best singles?

Hm, The Cars? U2?

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

No Joy's Motherhood is easily in my top 5 for this year.

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Oct 23, 2020

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

Ofecks posted:

Hm, The Cars? U2?

this is based on nothing but my own opinion, not some official thing, but I'd be very surprised if Robert Smith didn't nick a few bits of that Felt song for Just Like Heaven. New Order would then go on to swipe some bits of JLH for themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybgeZRS_iAQ

teethgrinder posted:

No Joy's Motherhood is easily in my top 5 for this year.;

it's amazing. each new thing she puts out is better than the last.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004



Yeah, those two songs are like... comically similar. New Order and The Cure have *always* had a tremendous amount of give and take and similarities. I actually feel like their early careers compare very favorably; up to 1982 or so they charted sonically comparable waters in very different ways. Stack up Unknown Pleasures/Closer/Movement against Seventeen Seconds/Faith/Pornography.

Both bands have a pretty tragic/fraught history, too. I mean, The Cure broke up after Pornography- even Gallup left for a while after that, as I recall. It's interesting, I feel like Robert Smith is a far better singer *and* guitarist than Bernard Sumner; and I don't mean that as a slight to Barnie, I love him but he's never been much of a vocalist and frankly I feel like the pressure and concentration required of him to sing certainly detracted fro his guitar-playing at live shows... I still don't know how Smith was able to play such complicated riffs while singing, back in the day when they were a 3-piece it was even more impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu1eQk2HEqg

This song works so much better with a tempo *at least* 2x faster than the album version, like here. It takes an eerie and ethereal atmospheric song and turns it into this furious, frenetic wail. Different early version of the lyrics. Not as amazingly and impressively and shockingly different as the version of Temptation I posted earlier, though. Nothing on par with hearing Bernard Sumner singing "Three days ago, I heard about a friend of mine" out of nowhere.

void_serfer
Jan 13, 2012




This band owns hard.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.



Cool interview from last week with Rachel Goswell of Slowdive. It's for Portugese-speaking audiences (Brazilians I think?), but the interviewer speaks English and asks some interesting questions. Rachel's cat also makes an appearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89oD6uHlCkw

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Tace Vim
Oct 13, 2005



was this posted earlier, because this compilation is really good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQxdDlNTP7E

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