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TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009



Pollyanna posted:

For some reason I got it into my head that adobo was a sweet, thick sauce with caramel or chocolate or something. Maybe I should give it a try.

are you confusing adobo for mole?

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Hauki
May 11, 2010



or maybe like cajeta? Keep caramel the gently caress away from my mole thanks. Also it shouldn't be sweet.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Joke's on them.


TheParadigm posted:

are you confusing adobo for mole?

Possibly. Wouldnít be surprised to see some gringo confuse the two and then serve it to me.

Maybe Iíll try making some in my instant pot. Would be a good use of all that chicken thigh.

Pollyanna fucked around with this message at May 10, 2018 around 18:04

Capri Sun Tzu
Oct 24, 2017



empty sea posted:

I recently discovered that chicken adobo is cheap, easy and tasty as gently caress. Pretty much all the ingredients are pantry items that will last a long time-- vinegar, soy sauce, bay leaves, garlic, sugar and black peppercorns. I just threw some drumsticks in a pot with the marinade and cooked it until tender, then shredded the meat, reduced the sauce a little and ate it over rice.

Why is this not a bigger thing? It's so delicious and cheap as hell! I'm gonna do chicken leg quarters next time, I'm not a drumstick person, they were just on sale.
This sounds like my poo poo, got a recipe or at least a rough guide of ratios for those ingredients?

Capri Sun Tzu
Oct 24, 2017



My girlfriend makes a similar dish by boiling chicken drumsticks in a broth of water, gochujang, chili flakes, garlic, onions and soy sauce and it freaking rules with white rice.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

TheParadigm posted:

are you confusing adobo for mole?

Mole isn't sweet unless you hosed up though. It is also the best thing ever.

Ron Jeremy
Apr 4, 2008

D&D FUCKING SUCKS, SIGNED WEEPING WOUND



Pollyanna posted:

For some reason I got it into my head that adobo was a sweet, thick sauce with caramel or chocolate or something. Maybe I should give it a try.

Where I see it In Mexican food is canned chipotles in adobo sauce, which is a pepper sauce.

ibntumart
Mar 18, 2007

Good, bad. I'm the one with the power of Shu, Heru, Amon, Zehuti, Aton, and Mehen.


College Slice

Pollyanna posted:

Possibly. Wouldnít be surprised to see some gringo confuse the two and then serve it to me.

Maybe Iíll try making some in my instant pot. Would be a good use of all that chicken thigh.

Here's a recipe for the Filipino version if you need one:

https://youtu.be/f5XSrsnLNKs

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing, you say? But I'm not even moving!



I have reduced adobo to the point where it's molť-esque. It's still not that sweet though.

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset

Capri Sun Tzu posted:

This sounds like my poo poo, got a recipe or at least a rough guide of ratios for those ingredients?

I just made another batch for this week because holy gently caress this food is cheap and delicious! I seared a big pack of chicken thighs, then rough chopped and tossed them into a slow boil pot of roughly 1 cup soy sauce and 1 cup of mixed rice vinegar and apple cider vinegar (I ran out of rice wine vinegar), 5 mashed cloves of garlic, a couple bay leaves, a chopped up chunk of ginger, a fat pinch of brown sugar and a can of coconut milk. I really just eyeballed the vinegar/soy sauce ratio, just tried to make it even and not to make it too much liquid to meat ratio.

Then I sauteed a chopped red onion and a pack of sliced mushrooms in the same pan I seared the chicken, deglazed with some apple cider vinegar, then added to to the pot.

I really like the coconut milk, it makes the gravy really creamy and kind of smooths out the flavors. Served chicken and gravy over white rice. I think it would go with some sauteed bok choy or other light green but ugh trying to find bok choy right now is impossible.

Anyway, I spent like $5 on chicken thighs and less than $2 on mushrooms and less than $2 on a can of coconut milk. Everything else was pantry staples or long term items and this makes 5-6 delicious meals easy in about an hour.

e: I couldn't get the lid off of my pepper grinder so I just ground a ton of pepper into it. The recipe calls for peppercorns but eh, it's really good with just a bunch of pepper.

empty sea fucked around with this message at May 15, 2018 around 10:08

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004
Interested party

I usually do smaller meals so only use 1/4 to 1/3 cup soy and vinegar (and use water instead of coconut milk - never heard that used in it before - interesting)
Using 1 cup soy and vinegar each sound insane to me but you must be making huge batches I guess.
Mines based on this recipe:
https://www.kawalingpinoy.com/chicken-adobo/

But I don't do potatoes usually, and like I said I have other additions I sometimes use like oyster sauce and sugar, and sometimes I add fish sauce and stirfried veg to serve.

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset

Yeah, I tend to cook once a week for 4-5 days so I make big batches for my after work dinners. I have oyster and fish sauce but I didn't think they'd add something of significant value with all the soy sauce. I did use sesame oil with the searing of the chicken but didn't taste it at all later so it can be omitted.

The coconut milk is like a game changer for me. It's mildly sweet and creamy and while I'm glad I made adobo without it the first time to compare, holy poo poo I'm not going back. It's incredibly better in every way.

This week I'm doing salmon potato spinach patties with lemon rice and frozen green beans. Trying to get more greens in but it's hard with meal prep. I'm not a broccoli person and holy poo poo most meal preps include broccoli.

That Works
Jul 21, 2006



Fun Shoe

empty sea posted:

Yeah, I tend to cook once a week for 4-5 days so I make big batches for my after work dinners. I have oyster and fish sauce but I didn't think they'd add something of significant value with all the soy sauce. I did use sesame oil with the searing of the chicken but didn't taste it at all later so it can be omitted.

The coconut milk is like a game changer for me. It's mildly sweet and creamy and while I'm glad I made adobo without it the first time to compare, holy poo poo I'm not going back. It's incredibly better in every way.

This week I'm doing salmon potato spinach patties with lemon rice and frozen green beans. Trying to get more greens in but it's hard with meal prep. I'm not a broccoli person and holy poo poo most meal preps include broccoli.

Saag is what I've been doing, using about 1 part mustard greens to 3 parts bagged frozen spinach. Only the spices are somewhat expensive and honestly not bad if you buy them in bulk for indian food anyway. You can just add chickpeas to it or even chicken if you wanted meat in there or didn't want to make paneer. Just serve that over jasmine rice, shitloads of greens.

cyberia
Jun 24, 2011

Do not call me that!
Snuffles was my slave name.
You shall now call me Snowball; because my fur is pretty and white.

empty sea posted:

Yeah, I tend to cook once a week for 4-5 days so I make big batches for my after work dinners. I have oyster and fish sauce but I didn't think they'd add something of significant value with all the soy sauce. I did use sesame oil with the searing of the chicken but didn't taste it at all later so it can be omitted.

The coconut milk is like a game changer for me. It's mildly sweet and creamy and while I'm glad I made adobo without it the first time to compare, holy poo poo I'm not going back. It's incredibly better in every way.

This week I'm doing salmon potato spinach patties with lemon rice and frozen green beans. Trying to get more greens in but it's hard with meal prep. I'm not a broccoli person and holy poo poo most meal preps include broccoli.

Using fish sauce and oyster sauce instead of soy sauce will give a more complex savoury flavour to your dishes, in my experience. Sesame oil is good for flavour but is subtle. You can try adding a few drops at the end of the cooking and stirring through rather than adding it at the beginning.

For more greens in your meal prep you can try spinach, green beans, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, zucchini (adds bulk without overpowering dishes if you grate it), or kale. Check out your local greengrocer and see what is in season that isn't broccoli.

huhwhat
Apr 22, 2010


Overcome your stigma of MSG and just use MSG salt instead of the slightly pricier (from my experience) fish sauce and oyster sauce.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004
Interested party

Who has declared a stigma of MSG? I like things with msg like chicken salt, abc brand chilli sauce and vegeta powder. That still isn't going to be the end of the usefulness of fish sauce, worcestershire sauce or oyster sauce for savoury, salty or richer flavours

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BraveUlysses
Aug 7, 2002



Grimey Drawer

Fo3 posted:

Who has declared a stigma of MSG? I like things with msg like chicken salt, abc brand chilli sauce and vegeta powder. That still isn't going to be the end of the usefulness of fish sauce, worcestershire sauce or oyster sauce for savoury, salty or richer flavours

there's a huge stigma against MSG in the US

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004
Interested party

Yeah, it's the same in Australia. Back in the 1990s every restaurant or packaged food had to declare themselves MSG free for the "today tonight" - 'current affairs type "news"' viewer type patronage.
But no one in this thread has made a big deal of it and it's only the baby boomers that remember or care.

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The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT CORTANA WILL BE A CIRCLE AND NOT THE ACTUAL SEXY WOMAN FROM THE GAME.


MSG is a flavour enhancer. Regardless of your opinions of it, It doesnít replicate the flavour profiles of real ingredients like fish sauce - even if you want to use msg you still have to craft a delicate balance of flavours with other things or youíll have a very one dimensional dish.

huhwhat
Apr 22, 2010


Definitely not saying that MSG is a perfect substitute for fish sauce or oyster sauce. I just personally think that it's acceptable replacement when you're trying to min/max tastiness and cost. My opinion is predicated on (1) you not noticing the flavor differences, (2) significant price difference in sauces vs MSG, and (3) the rate at which you use the sauces and MSG are similar.

And yeah I agree that MSG needs to be used carefully. Too much and it ends up tasting like potato chips/packaged umami snacks.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010

Also sexism, religious bias, jingoism, and so on. Don't do it, people!

Dogs, don't do it either, even if the police man really tries to train you to do it.


Every poor person in here should make some motherfucking dal. Thereís a million kinds because dal literally just means lentils, but hereís what I have been making: https://turmericsaffron.blogspot.co...-style-red.html

I cut the red pepper in half because my wife is a wimp, but I cook it with a bit less liquid to make it more of a curry texture than a soup. I use chicken or vegetable broth because itís still pretty cheap that way and it adds more flavor, but thereís no reason you canít use water like that recipe says. You can also use ghee instead of vegetable oil, but thatís more expensive as well.

Lentils are super cheap and filling and donít need to be soaked like beans do, so theyíre more convenient. They could also be argued to be even more nutritious than beans. They frequently have more fiber and protein than beans, although it obviously depends on the particular bean or lentil type and the preparation.

One batch of that recipe served with rice lasts the two of us three days, with me also taking it for lunch two or three days. We bought a 2 pound bag of lentils for $4, which you could probably get cheaper. After three batches we still have about a pound left.

fr0id
Jul 27, 2016

I don't even subscribe to psychodynamic theory.


22 Eargesplitten posted:

One batch of that recipe served with rice lasts the two of us three days, with me also taking it for lunch two or three days. We bought a 2 pound bag of lentils for $4, which you could probably get cheaper. After three batches we still have about a pound left.

That recipe calls for two cups of lentils per batch. How are you get 11-12 cups of lentils out of 2 pounds? I usually get 2-3 cups per pound.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010

Also sexism, religious bias, jingoism, and so on. Don't do it, people!

Dogs, don't do it either, even if the police man really tries to train you to do it.


Theyíre dried lentils, are you using dried? It might be three pounds, but I think itís two. I donít know if red lentils vs green makes a difference.

I guess weíve actually only used 5 cups. The first two times my wife wanted to try mixing some garbanzo beans in for variety but it ended up sucking because the garbanzo beans took forever to cook compared to the lentils. In those two batches we used 1.5 cups of lentils each and .5 cups of garbanzo beans.

So I guess weíre getting roughly 10 cups from 2 pounds?

fr0id
Jul 27, 2016

I don't even subscribe to psychodynamic theory.


22 Eargesplitten posted:

Theyíre dried lentils, are you using dried? It might be three pounds, but I think itís two. I donít know if red lentils vs green makes a difference.

I guess weíve actually only used 5 cups. The first two times my wife wanted to try mixing some garbanzo beans in for variety but it ended up sucking because the garbanzo beans took forever to cook compared to the lentils. In those two batches we used 1.5 cups of lentils each and .5 cups of garbanzo beans.

So I guess weíre getting roughly 10 cups from 2 pounds?

Yeah, Iím using dried. Hereís a picture of a pound of popcorn:

Measured out into a cup measure as about 2 cups.


A cup of popcorn weighs about 225g versus 210g for a cup of lentils. I think at the verrrry start of the thread Dino mentioned something similar about getting several cups out of a pound of rice/beans and i have no idea how people are managing this. A quick google says that that a pound of lentils equals 2.29 cups.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003



perhaps they have small cups

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010

Also sexism, religious bias, jingoism, and so on. Don't do it, people!

Dogs, don't do it either, even if the police man really tries to train you to do it.


I really donít know. I can definitely get a good few cups out of a pound of rice.

Either I got a 4 pound bag for $4 and thought it was 2 or a cup doesnít weigh nearly half a pound.

fr0id
Jul 27, 2016

I don't even subscribe to psychodynamic theory.


Sorry to be pedantic about it. I just remember way back when I was living on a lot less and whether those beans gave me two cups or four cups was a big deal.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010

Also sexism, religious bias, jingoism, and so on. Don't do it, people!

Dogs, don't do it either, even if the police man really tries to train you to do it.


Okay, yeah, mea culpa. The lentils were a 4 pound bag, the garbanzo beans were the 2 pound bag. So it was maybe $5 for the lentils, still a really good deal. That 2 cups expands a ton. Depending on who you ask, they either double or triple in size. Iím leaning more towards triple, maybe a bit less. Roughly one cup is a very filling meal for me when served with a equal or slightly higher amount of rice, sometimes thatís even too much. My wife eats maybe half to 2/3 of a cup with maybe a cup of rice.

I need to go to Sprouts, I think they might be cheaper from their bulk bin section.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013



22 Eargesplitten posted:

Okay, yeah, mea culpa. The lentils were a 4 pound bag, the garbanzo beans were the 2 pound bag. So it was maybe $5 for the lentils, still a really good deal. That 2 cups expands a ton. Depending on who you ask, they either double or triple in size. I’m leaning more towards triple, maybe a bit less. Roughly one cup is a very filling meal for me when served with a equal or slightly higher amount of rice, sometimes that’s even too much. My wife eats maybe half to 2/3 of a cup with maybe a cup of rice.

I need to go to Sprouts, I think they might be cheaper from their bulk bin section.

Hot tip, go to an Asian or Indian (or Middle Eastern or a bunch of other types of) grocer, they always have the best price and quality for bulk lentils, and usually rice too. I go to the Indian market for bulk and frozen goods, like that mawa powder that really is almost as good as homemade, and the Asian market for smaller amounts of things. They also have a ton of non Asian ingredients like limoo omani, so it's one of my usual spots anyway.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010

Also sexism, religious bias, jingoism, and so on. Don't do it, people!

Dogs, don't do it either, even if the police man really tries to train you to do it.


Yeah, the Asian market is where I got this bag, the tamarind, and enough turmeric to last me well past the point it goes stale. I think lentils might be under $1 at Sprouts, though. The Asian markets are also always disappointingly expensive for rice compared to Kroger too.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013



22 Eargesplitten posted:

Yeah, the Asian market is where I got this bag, the tamarind, and enough turmeric to last me well past the point it goes stale. I think lentils might be under $1 at Sprouts, though. The Asian markets are also always disappointingly expensive for rice compared to Kroger too.

I think it depends a lot on where you are. The cheapest rice in town is either winco, in the bulk foods, or a few pennies per pound cheaper at the Indian market. The most expensive rice is at the Asian market, but their cheap rice isn't much more than the absolute cheapest I can find.

This is completely conjecture, but is it possible that yours doesn't stock the cheap stuff because people mainly shop there for specialty ingredients and expect to spend more money anyway? That's definitely the case at the tiny Asian market in the adjoining city.

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Human Tornada
Mar 3, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.


Spices, too. Between the Indian, Halal, and Asian markets I visit I can find just about anything for sometimes literally one tenth of the price of Meijer.

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