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Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.



Okay, I remember reading about that awhile ago and wondering, "drat what is up with the Brits loosing all that stuff?" At first I thought it was really lax attitude or incompetence coupled with a strong dose of espionage.

So now the insinuation is that the press paid off law enforcement to steal documents so they could spy on government institutions, who would then turn around and bully government officials into submission over policy. Wow.

Moses, is Levenson at a definite end, or could this start a WHOLE other round of hearings?

Also, your work in these threads has been outstanding.

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Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Cao Ni Ma posted:

What are the chances that he fucks up Foxnews in a way that leads to destruction of the american side of the business?

As long as Aisles is in charge and given autonomy, that won't happen. But, Aisles is apparently retiring soon, irc...

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.



Why is he or anyone buying newspapers now? Print is dying. Broadcast TV is dying. Unless he's figured out how to port those properties to online-on demand subscribership (which no one else has figured out yet), he's going to end up loosing lots of money in a dead end industry.
It's his cable properties are the things that are keeping him afloat.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Brown Moses posted:

I've put my name in for "The Golden Twit" awards for best political Tweeter, and you can vote for me here, let's totally fix this thing!



Mr Cuddles posted:

You're up against an ex glamour model called vix pix whose avatar has her topless.

Challenge accepted. If you Brits can make Rage Against The Machine top the pop charts during Christmas, you can manage this.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


It's okay for him to say that. His mother is jewish.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


So who is given then chance for leniency more, the police or the reporters, or is the sentencing equally harsh?
Is the prosecution going after the press and giving the charged police officers a chance to cooperate or vice versa?
I wold expect an institutional bias in favor of the corrupt police, unless there is a concerted effort that they be 'made an example'.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


TinTower posted:



How about you gently caress off, Murdoch?



I had to google this reference. Wow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsb...saster#Findings

Sales of The Sun are still down in Liverpool because the The Sun editor blamed the fans/victims in the Hillsborough incident over the police incompetence.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Rodatose posted:

As someone in the states, I hadn't heard about that and it's pretty infuriating.


As always, blame the poor rabble so that members of a different poor rabble can be mad at them.

After reading the wiki, I came away with the feeling it wasn't the looters that urinated on the bodies of the victims.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Reporters didn't become 'personalities' until the first Gulf War. Sure, you had star reporters, but it was usually some guy with microphone giving some dry description of the what went down.

For the past 20+ years, the news has gradually inserted that 'drama' like Stalin was talking about.

I recently watched some old news clips from the 60's and even though it was pretty dry like HortonNash said, I felt like I learned something instead of being told something.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Brown Moses posted:

Peter Jukes and Emily Bell on CNN talking about the phone hacking trials


Peter Jukes will be doing a second edition of his book, The Fall Of The House Of Murdoch, after the trials, and he plans to have a chapter about me in it.

That's, in it's way, very fitting. By the title, I would infer it isn't just about the hacking scandal, but also about how the media giants are faltering and there's a search for a new model, like the Brown Moses' of the world. Congratulations.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


The picture for that article is perfect.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


To my perception, the Levenson Inquiry was very thorough, professional, and had a refreshing lack of political bias. It seems that any absence of evidence is due to time and administrative constraints, not fear of controversy. Any reason this assessment could be wrong?

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


I don't know which looks worse for Charlie Brooks, that he paid for porn or that paid for really lovely porn?

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Mr Cuddles posted:

The enthusiasm over these minor details feels like the sort of thing you would criticize the tabloids for in the first place. It feels like everybody watching this case is probably doing so because we despise the UK press for this sort of thing yet is still indulging in it when it suits us.

So I'm trying not to find it funny. Except it is.

marktheando posted:

Having the public giggle at their embarrassing personal effects is probably the closest thing the Brooks' will get to punishment for their crimes, we have to take what we can get.


Sauce for the goose. Schadenfreude. Karma. Justice. Call it what you will. After dispensing the same kind of
humiliations great and small, completely truthful and possibly less so, these minor humiliations dropped at Rebekah Brooks' feet are righteous and good.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


The Entire Universe posted:

Considering they only found 25 images he's actually coming off as rather prudish.

We haven't found out if those are pictures of his wife yet.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Plavski posted:

Most of today's examination has involved going into the minutiae of the Daniel Craig/Sienna Miller call. Pinpointing the exact time and date, who heard, what was played. Coulson's QC, Timothy Langdale, is laying into him constantly:

I thought Evans was warned not to get combative with QC. I'm glad they're giving him more leeway. I love this kind of back and forth.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Sir Rabia Tirnova posted:



Also in case anyone wasn't aware, Lachlan Murdoch is now the heir apparent.

For now. The heir to Rupes empire seems to see saw between Lauchlan & James. Rupert better make up his mind soon before he no longer can.

I thought Lachlan "wasn't interested".

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Byolante posted:

I thought the onetel wanker was blackballed for being a massive embarassment to the family.


wikipedia posted:

On 23 November 2011, British newspapers reported James Murdoch resigned as chairman of News Group Newspapers (NGN), the holding company above the Sun, News of the World and Times Newspapers Ltd, itself owner of The Times and The Sunday Times. NGN is the company subject to a series of lawsuits all related to the phone hacking scandal. James Murdoch's resignation is also said to be related to the 12-10-2011 resignation[clarification needed] of another Dow Jones Executive, Andrew Langhoff, after a company whistleblower revealed an editorial scam and questionable circulation dealings at The Wall Street Journal Europe.[18][19]

On 29 February 2012, News Corp. announced that James Murdoch would be stepping down as Executive Chairman of its British newspaper arm. The company said he would remain deputy chief operating officer of News Corp and focus on the company's international TV business,[20] including continued responsibility for BSkyB.[21] He stepped down also from the GlaxoSmithKline board.[22]

On 3 April 2012 he stood down as chairman of BSkyB, but remained on the board.[23] He was replaced as chairman by Nicholas Ferguson.

Looks like Lachlan might have another chance. If he wants it now.

I found this quote interesting:

wikipedia posted:

In April 2010, Murdoch and his associate Rebekah Brooks stormed into the offices of The Independent to complain about an advertisement campaign by the newspaper. The advertisement read, “Rupert Murdoch won’t decide this election—you will.”

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


Better make sure those scapegoats don't rat out the ones you're trying cover.

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Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

At the Union Hall since 1990.


What ever your standard, it's about the powerful abusing the powerless and then using that power to hide that it ever happened.

e: ^^^^^ What he said.

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