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Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

fozzy fosbourne posted:

What type of media sources does "video processing" affect? I've been reading reviews comparing Samsung plasmas to Panasonic plasmas and they mention that Samsung video processing is much better. Would that make a difference with Apple TV? Games? Cable?

All video sources unless you turn it off. Which you should for games.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2013 17:01

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:35

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

What are the measurements of your hole?

At least buy him dinner first, drat.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2013 22:16

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Thinking about getting an M60-C3. I currently have an Apple TV 4, PS4, XBone, and a gaming/DVR PC connected to my TV through an Onkyo TX-NR515 which can apparently upscale to 4K. Does this seem like a good idea? The Rtings review suggested a lot of motion blur, but is it that big a deal? Also, any ideas how best to hook it all up? The receiver has two HDMI out - one that upconverts (and is the ARC port, I guess?) and one that doesn't. Would it make sense to connect the upconverting one to the ARC port on the TV when watching movies and the non-one to HDMI 5 for playing games? Would this even work or would the receiver always send stuff to HDMI 1? This is kinda new to me since it would be my first smart TV.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 22:55

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Thanks for that. Thank god I didn't order that TV yet!

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 17:35

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

veedubfreak posted:

$2398 - Samsung UN75JU641DFXZA (75", 4k, Smart)

Anyone know much about this tv? One of the Best Buy schmucks was saying that TVs from Sams club are often a slightly different model so as to get the lower price. Is there any truth to this?

He's right about the first part, but no idea about the latter. They do this so they don't have to price match.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 20:31

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

HDMI-CEC is really nice except for one thing: cats are more than heavy enough to hit buttons on my Apple TV remote, which is Bluetooth, so I woke up to a completely on entertainment system since I didn't think about that at all.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2015 21:43

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

General E posted:

Ugh. No Amazon is tough. Now I need to find out about Watch Disney Jr and Watch ESPN. Not a huge deal, as I have a Roku, but I was hoping to have one fewer device in my living room if I upgraded to a Smart TV.

How bad is using something like the regular Android Amazon video app "sideloaded" via a remote?

My Sony XBR55X810C came with an Amazon Prime app, so maybe it's not available on the store, but it's already on the TV. I can't imagine the higher Sony models don't come with it, also. WatchESPN does not seem to be available on, which is a bummer, nor does Disney Jr.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2015 21:20

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Coolnezzz posted:

Also any advice for my speaker placement? Rocking some super cheap Ikea tables and the center speaker is currently sitting on top of my HTPC + the box my xbone came in. It looks tacky to say the least.

Get a VESA stand like mentioned in the post above yours and you can just put it on the table below the screen. It'll have the added bonus of probably being way more sturdy than the stock stand.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2016 11:27

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

bull3964 posted:

I actually may not even be able to get a 65" model depending on how they build the base of the TV since my entertainment stand is pretty much exactly as wide as my 55W900a.

This is irrelevant unless you are already using the VESA mounts. There's plenty of tabletop VESA mounts that are narrower than the TV but still way more stable than stock stands. (Stability might not be a big issue for you, but my last TV got knocked over by my cat, and I'd rather not deal with that again. It surprisingly survived with just some added light bleed.) I've posted it before, but this is the one I got and it's really nice. Granted, it requires spending a little more money, if it's the difference between what you really want and what otherwise works, it makes sense to me.

Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jan 7, 2016

# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 16:20

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

bull3964 posted:

Point of note. The EG9600 and its predecessor are not VESA compatible. We don't know if that's true or not for the new models yet, but the trend isn't in favor.

Weird, but I guess that is an issue.

# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 17:20

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

veedubfreak posted:

Most of the high end tvs will let you turn off the synthetic motion blur crap.
My Sony even has a "football" mode which I assume helps, but I've just set mine to game mode and never touched it. Looks fine for games/sportsball/movies.

Football mode is nice! It turns on the motion interpolation and brightens the screen. Just be sure to turn it off after the game.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 01:57

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

What was it?

# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 14:50

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Aeka 2.0 posted:

I've got some first world problems. I have a Samsung 8500 here and no 4k discs to play on it. If anyone else has one, how does one set deep color? I only see chroma options.

You also don't have any equipment to play 4K discs, so I wouldn't worry too much about lacking the discs.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2016 15:52

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Ah, I thought it was a TV model. I'm dumb!

# ¿ Feb 11, 2016 17:00

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

My 2010 Vizio M-series is still kicking after getting knocked over by my cat. Has some light bleed, but otherwise works fine.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2016 20:17

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Don Lapre posted:

Vizio bought my m series back due to light bleed. was nice getting a check 23 months after i bought it for the purchase amount.

It didn't have light bleed until it hit and shattered a glass coffee table.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2016 20:47

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Whichever size Vizio E-series is in your budget would be the best bet. Looks like the E43-C2 inch is $350 from Amazon or the E48-C2 is $400 at Best Buy (not available on Amazon). You might be able to find it cheaper elsewhere as it'll probably be going on clearance shortly.

You won't find a good TV without smart TV features, so move past that. You don't have to use them if you don't want.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2016 22:45

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

DarkSun6890 posted:

Should I consider this over the Visio E 43 inch for $350? 4K doesn't seem like something I really need, but if it can extend the life of my tv a couple years it could be worth it.

I would spend an additional $150 for 7 more inches if it's in your budget, even if you don't really intend to use 4K (you probably won't notice a difference at 50").

# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 15:15

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

bull3964 posted:

Alternatively, I view even 32" as quite large for the bedroom. I'm not sure how one would fall asleep with something that large lighting up the room.

By turning it off?

# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 18:22

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I do for like the first time since I moved out of my college dorms, and only because I bought a bigger living room TV and moved the old one into my bedroom. I'm still not convinced I want it there.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 21:36

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

LmaoTheKid posted:

My 55" x810c still owns and the apps are good too.

Yeah, same. It wakes up from sleep nearly instantly. That said, I've definitely had it crash and reboot on me a couple times and the Netflix app has a tendency to error out when I first start it after waking or doing something else on it.

# ¿ Apr 6, 2016 03:08

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I'd say either the vintage audio hear thread might at least have some recommendations or there's probably some thread in Games about playing old systems.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2016 22:56

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Don Lapre posted:

Buy the OLED all day.

Yeah as much as I like my Sony, if I did it again, I think I'd spend a bit more cash for the OLED.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2016 18:40

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

LmaoTheKid posted:

I've had mine since October. Its awesome. I got the 55" one as well.

The only thing that sucks is when an android update hits it takes a long time to update. I have some dark corners (which I was aware of it being an issue beforehand) which is only annoying if the screen is completely white (like the long white screen you get before Dark Souls 3 loads up). Otherwise I don't notice them.

Also if it's going in a bright room, the picture is going to get drowned out.

Otherwise, I still love it to death.

Seconding everything here.

# ¿ May 3, 2016 20:12

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

For $1000 you can do a lot more than 50" 1080p. That's how much I spent on my 55" Sony 4K.

# ¿ May 14, 2016 22:29

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

sellouts posted:

If anyone has any interest in new/upcoming consoles you might want to consider 4K. Rumor is they are coming soon and will support it.

Vizio soundbar is like 35 or 50. Has to be decent for that cheap, no?

I'll be very surprised if they can actually render many games at 4K. Realistically, they'll render at a smooth 1080p and output at 4K.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 13:37

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

KodiakRS posted:

My 980ti is now a generation old and can run things like doom and over watch at 60fps+ in 4K. So it's not out of the question. Having said that, I think the big reason for consoles going 4K, if that happens, is for playing 4K DVDs

Yeah, I hadn't considered that angle.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 16:24

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

bull3964 posted:

Microsoft just undercut the gently caress out of the 1st gen standalone Blu-ray players.

Xbox One S will have 4k Blu-ray support for $299 this August.

Does it continue to have an interface that's slow, cluttered, and ugly? If so, no thanks.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 19:06

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

My Sony uses Android TV which is nicer and has a better ecosystem than Fire TV or Roku. I'll grant that in a couple years it'll be slow compared to those at which point maybe I'll stop using the built in apps

That said, if you're on Vizio's home grown thing or Tizen on a Samsung, Fire TV or Roku is probably a better option.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2016 03:37

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

BottleKnight posted:

That's a good point, the vizios don't have Android, only Google cast which is kind of its own platform. It's the Sonys that have the mediocre AndroidTV

Sony's Android TV is probably the best smart TV implementation other than LG's WebOS.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2016 01:45

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Honestly, I won't be happy until I can count the number of ingrown hairs on my favorite porn star's vagina.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 21:50

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

EL BROMANCE posted:

"I don't need 4K" will soon be this threads "I don't need a smart tv". Not long until only the bottom rung ones are 1080p.

e: Ok here's a question - what do you guys do with your massive TV boxes? I always kept hold of my 50" Panasonic plasma box because it was the ideal way to transport the TV when moving house etc, but I had a big storeroom so keeping it wasn't a big deal. Now I'm in a condo, a 65" TV box isn't really what I want taking up all my space, and it's not quuuuuite as good as the Panny one anyway. I'd lose my mind if it got damaged if we move out in a year though... is it better to just keep it assembled and wrap in thick moving blankets? At least it won't be leaving the city this time.

I threw mine out since I live in an apartment. When moving time comes, you can always buy another box. There's lots of places that sell good ones with foam inside.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 15:53

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

If the width of the stand is your limiting factor, why not just buy a third-party VESA stand? I had to do that for my 810c, and it's massively more stable than the stock one seemed like it would be. Maybe doesn't look as nice but :shrug:

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 13:46

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Not using a VESA mount is a pretty lovely exclusion with no net positives that I can think of beyond loving consumers, but I guess when you're the only show in town, you can get away with that sort of thing.

I don't really consider TVs stylish by any stretch - just varying levels of unstylishness. Especially when you're talking a big, black rectangle, so I don't see how that's an issue. But it's also moot since it's not an option.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 14:35

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I'm sure it's fine. At that price you're not likely to find better than a Vizio.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 02:55

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Well, Android TV is usable without another device so it's already a massive improvement over a Chromecast. That it has Chromecast built-in just cements it. They're not really comparable.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 18:43

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Netflix and Amazon Prime both have a number of movies in 4K.

EDIT: Though I don't know if they can be watched on a PC. I haven't tried.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 15:18

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I can't imagine a decent 4K TV exists that doesn't have built-in Netflix and/or Amazon.

I guess there's some Hisense or whatever things that don't have smart features but also don't look remotely good.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 16:09

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

At 50" it's probably not worth it to get 4K.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2016 01:09

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:35

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

They're on closeout, so you probably won't do a whole lot better. Maybe another $100.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 16:21

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