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Who/when was the last person to be sentenced to death by the federal government? (in court, drones/seals don't count)
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mcsquared posted:Is there a single piece of evidence yet that these two were terrorists? Because I see it thrown around a bunch and I haven't seen anything to indicate their motive or message. Evidence: incited terror all over america with IEDs.
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Apr 20, 2013 03:45
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mcsquared posted:I don't think y'all got the meaning of my question. Evidence that they had a particular political motive or message, making the act terroristic, rather than a Holmes or Columbine style act of weird masculine destruction. That is not required for the classification of terrorism. Obama even mentioned it in his latest update.
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Apr 20, 2013 03:46
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mcsquared posted:I always thought it was. How else could we define it? Start here: http://web.mit.edu/ssp/seminars/wed_archives08spring/richardson.htm
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Apr 20, 2013 03:49
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T. Finninho posted:Here's the thing though: I don't give a poo poo. He and his brother are (were) terrorists Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck......
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Apr 20, 2013 03:52
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mcsquared posted:I've already read this, in fact it is what I was operating on, because the first words are: Look dude, they knew what the bombs meant to Americans. They weren't psychos who just wanted to see what the reaction would be. It was indeed politically inspired, and we don't need to understand or validate the message to call it terrorism.
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Apr 20, 2013 03:53
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mcsquared posted:This is all I'm wondering - how do we know this? It seems like a pretty important thing to know if we're to accurately assess what the hell went on to cause this. Listen to any one interview with people who know the subjects.
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Apr 20, 2013 03:56
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mcsquared posted:Thanks for the reply. It seems like it's almost going to be easier for the community to process if this is an explicitly political act for whatever agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhBAa0QwlYw listen to the whole thing
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Apr 20, 2013 04:00
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mcsquared posted:I thought we already had like twitter accounts, youtube accounts etc. which might have shed some light on this, I was confused is all? You think you have a monopoly on caring about this poo poo? I have family in Boston too, so gently caress off with the attitude, god drat. It is my experience on these forums that calling out mods for attitude with attitude is generally a bad idea
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Apr 20, 2013 04:02
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mcsquared posted:I lived in Northern Ireland for 8 years during the troubles. I really found it easier to process the people I knew who died because it wasn't "random", it was a cowardly war. At least I had an answer to the question "why?" You didn't watch the video I told you to watch, I know because you keep posting and the video is 5 minutes long.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:04
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Volume posted:I'm watching it and if you had the police conference video I'd watch that too! Yes that's a request to any one in this thread. Sorry, I can't seem to find that one. I listened to it on the radio and it was pretty touching. But the reporters could go gently caress themselves.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:07
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Muck and Mire posted:Would you mind pointing out the part of that video you want us to focus on or no? The part where why doesn't matter. (for the classification of this as terrorism) ethanol fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Apr 20, 2013 04:08
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Muck and Mire posted:And why on earth would that be the case? Because people are using it as an excuse to say/argue with each other this is not terrorism. It clearly. Is.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:10
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Muck and Mire posted:There's no set definition of terrorism and based on the last 10 years of American history it's a word that means everything and nothing. This was a bad thing that happened but labeling it terrorism or not is just semantics. Well ok sure whatever.  I'm tired of this anyways.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:14
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We're transitioning to fox news 'welfare did this' now.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:19
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I'm soooo happy the authorities wrapped this up in 4 days, what a great way to say gently caress off to criminals.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:22
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OatmealRaisin posted:"Serious condition." "Not dead"
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Apr 20, 2013 04:26
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Fancy Corndog posted:Yes and no. Yes in that they have managed to create for themselves a sense of false importance. No in that no. They managed to get a callout to the internet by obama and then literally in the same sentence a reprimanding for false accusing and vigilantism
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Apr 20, 2013 04:28
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the popes toes posted:he evaded capture with more skill than his brother, I'm not sure about that, seemed a lot more like blind luck that he survived longer/ didn't get shot to death.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:36
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Amos Moses posted:I remember at one point they were calling for ballistic dogs. My neighbor's dog goes ballistic whenever I throw my leftover meat over the fence. Ballistic dogs..... 
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Apr 20, 2013 04:47
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Speaking of movie miranda rights, can't wait for the SVU episode where the bomber is also a sexually abused sociopath and all the federal/state interactions are 'tense as gently caress'
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Apr 20, 2013 04:57
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Any confirmation he was armed in the boat?
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Apr 20, 2013 05:09
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Romes128 posted:He fired dozens of rounds at the police who showed up to investigate the boat. Hit one.
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Apr 20, 2013 05:11
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Mr. Grinch posted:There are only about a million people in Chechnya anyway so i wouldn't be surprised Chechnya has always really interested and saddened me. It's just such a strange place with a long.. long bloody history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFyK0wkkFcg This video was from the year or two before these guys left.
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Apr 20, 2013 05:33
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Americans with Chechnyans in.. in. syria? uhhhh what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm7j5bHBfxY
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Apr 20, 2013 05:50
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Mr. Grinch posted:Who loving gives a poo poo where you're born. Your birth place doesn't mean a goddamn thing, it's about where you grow up. Try telling that to my Irish friends 
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Apr 20, 2013 06:02
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Anus Dei posted:Actually don't. Watch some kitten cam or something. That's actually a really great idea right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxxzGVLwxIQ
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Apr 20, 2013 06:45
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Radbot posted:Let's honor the biggest hero: the guy who checked his boat and made the capture possible in the first place. Without getting shot in the face!
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Apr 20, 2013 06:49
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Which is quite odd, assuming that he actually lifted the tarp and saw the suspect. Because, apparently when the police did it, the suspect returned fire. I suspect the suspect was tryin' to catch some z's or was delirious from bloodloss.
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Apr 20, 2013 06:51
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Can anyone here who knows anything about how manhunt procedures in the United States tell me, on a scale of 1 to 10, just how likely it was that we were going to take White Hat alive, 1 being "Completely expected" and 10 being "About as probable as taking Bin Laden alive"? Thanks. On a scale of ducks to chicken, this was chicken. Osama was more mallard I would say.
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Apr 20, 2013 07:03
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Copley Depot posted:But on the other hand, 19 year old kid with no apparent plan. Possibly unprepared for the amount of attention the bombing would create. I listened to an interview with a classmate of his in AP English. If you're in AP English and growing up in america since 9/11, you absolutely are going to know what attention bombings will create in america. She said he was smart, normal, funny, semi quiet but 'not troubling' and she wanted to get to know him better. ethanol fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Apr 20, 2013 07:08
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I heard on the radio three times that the boat owner peeked in the tarp and saw a "bloodied man"
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Apr 20, 2013 07:18
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I have a lot of respect for that boat owner. Just hearing my yard gate creak at night makes me jumpy sometimes.
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Apr 20, 2013 07:26
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OatmealRaisin posted:Only in vehicles and having one while committing a crime. drat you ryan gosling! 
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Apr 20, 2013 07:58
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Killer robot posted:Don't blame robots for this, man. Just don't. Robots don't hurt people, people controlling robots do
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Apr 20, 2013 21:30
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ComradeCosmobot posted:The right of the people to keep tactical bears and robots with arms shall not be infringed. Tactical bears... and robots with arms? No loving way, not in my country.
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Apr 20, 2013 21:35
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WastedJoker posted:How could they go home to pick up guns etc? Didn't the police know their home address at that point? I don't believe anybody knew the suspect's names until the brother was identified in the hospital.
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Apr 20, 2013 22:24
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The only thing I think the brother may have convinced him into believing was that they weren't going to get caught.
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Apr 20, 2013 22:37
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People keep on talking away like a terrorist bomber's mindset is ever going to make sense to them after we argue about it enough. Not enough evidence...
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Apr 20, 2013 22:50
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Samurai Sanders posted:His inputs can make sense to us though, even if his brain remains a black box. That's somewhat useful, I suppose. His inputs? You have his ambiguous twitter account. Good luck with that man. I hope people someday will try to understand my real life actions through my SA ramblings. "Wait, he said something about loving chickens!? What is this GOATSE? Sadistic gently caress!"
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Apr 20, 2013 22:56
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