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Twitch posted:Also, the whole time it had the slave revolt going on, all I could think about was how these people were literally only villains because the game said they were. It's funny really, they didn't even include the standard Shootmans Game War Crime Scenes. I mean, the revolt does what that's terrible enough to change our minds, other than Daisy? They break into a lobby and wreck up the place? They riot in a rich neighbourhood right after the game makes a setpiece of the civilians being safely evacuated?
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I don't see why people get so mad over ME2 planet scanning. Unless you were going full sperg, you had to do it for maybe five minutes, at which point it was a nice Uncharted Worlds soundtrack-break from shooting mans. There were like three (I think?) plot important upgrades, which were blatantly telegraphed by your crew going HEY COMMANDER I DON'T THINK THE SHIP IS UP TO SNUFF.
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I'd forgive all of Oblivion's gameplay flaws if it wasn't for the setting.Pocket Guide to the Empire posted:Akaviri dragon-motifs are found in all quarters, from the high minaret bridges of the Imperial City to the paper hako skiffs that villagers use to wing their dead down the rivers. Thousands of workers ply the rice fields after the floodings, or clear the foliage of the surrounding jungle in the alternate seasons. Above them are the merchant-nobility, the temple priests and cult leaders, and the age-old aristocracy of the battlemages. The Emperor watches over them all from the towers of the Imperial City, as dragons circle overhead... At one point, all of Elder Scrolls was weird and awesome like Morrowind. Now TESO spreads across what's left of the setting that we haven't seen and conforms that, no, it's just fantasy England or not-Arabia or Rivendell or whatever after all. 
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grittyreboot posted:I actually think Skyrim would be better if they removed the minor cities and moved those characters and building just outside of the hold capitals. It would give the remaining cities a much more realistic feeling of urban sprawl and make the rest of the world seem more untamed and dangerous. Yeah, that's one thing I much preferred in Oblivion. In Skyrim I never felt like I was really deep in the wilderness, far away from anything more civilised than a campsite. The vertical emphasis might have had something to do with it, splitting the world into regions in such a way that you always know where you are. Parts of Oblivion, though, especially in the east had a way of making you feel miles from the nearest road. That said, I've also heard people say the exact opposite so it might just be me.
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Cleretic posted:There are three different types of Daedric Prince: Well, it's their own fault. You gave nocturnal, prince of the dark, then namira who handles disgusting stuff in the dark. Not to mention I think there's at least three who deal with different bits of betrayal and sedition... 
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It doesn't seem that bad - if the veteran whatevers are the actual endgame itself. It's just a more structured approach than being able to do every raid from the get go, which escalating difficulty would usually make impossible anyway. That said there's a ton of grindy looking poo poo thrown in there. And if that's just attunement, then 
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The thing with the attunement is that half the things on the list are the actual endgame content. Tempest Keep, SSC etc are proper, hard, endgame raids that you had to do to get to the biggest baddest of them all. It's not *just* busywork (though there's plenty of that, and it sucks) - it's like complaining that you have to get through the early planets in Mass Effect to get to the later ~endgame~ ones. My spergy pet peeve is any fantasy RPG where you constantly get referred to as 'adventurers'. Or worse, ones who treat it like a profession, like 'oh my son is a farmer, and my daughter went off to be an adventurer'. It's just dumb as hell. Wandering the world heavily armed fighting things is something you do because important plot poo poo is going down. Imagine Lord of the Rings if they ran into a bunch of other Fellowships along the way that just sort of dithered around killing miscellaneous poo poo and living off a somehow endless supply of 10,0000 year old ruins, because work is work and it's not taxed or whatever. Basically, turning heroism into a profession in order to cram game mechanics/D&D tropes where they don't belong.
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Tunicate posted:Isn't that basically the Rangers' entire schtick? They're more of a decrepit army turned nomad, still protecting the ruins of their kingdom and the people beyond. That's the thing, like Calavreon said there are so many slight changes that make it work much better. They joined the army, they turned to banditry, they're travelling to find their lost uncle. Anything that doesn't suggest they've taken 'you all meet in a tavern and go kill a vampire' not as a perilous adventure but a day job.
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Well one of the bigger letdowns of ME3's writing imo was the transformation of Cerberus into a vast evil superpower with truckloads of cannon fodder. Basically space COBRA  Before that, they kind of had tons of cells that probablyt ran the whole spectrum of pro-human-ness. They only reported to TIM himself, so he was the only one who really knew where the group as a whole fell (    )
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I really never though Ashley was a space racist, though there's some lovely writing with the dog comparaison. I don't see a problem in a soldier objecting when a space somali warlord, a foreign ship technician, a guy we were at war with ten years ago and the daughter of a major politician are being allowed to poke around a top secret cutting edge warship 
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Hey if we're doing really obvious trolling that people will inevitably fall for I've got one: But this is true?
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Doesn't help that Obsidian's ways of 'dealing with' rape and genocide are using them to show Caesar's Legion are cartoon bad guys with the subtlety of a sledgehammer
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dataisplural posted:i too wish they focused on the positive aspects of rape and genocide the problem isn't lack of nuance, it's that the Legion's crimes could be switched for puppy killing and have the same impact. It's cheap 'THEY'RE EVIL DO YOU SEE GUYS' shorthand, not Clockwork Orange or 1984
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My favourite morality system is where characters act according to the personalities the writer gave them instead of a coverall code with its designated god, lucky colour, magic power, spirit animal and afterlife
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counterfeitpinecone posted:Somebody on here once pointed out that you start the game being outfitted by Sarif with probably millions of dollars worth of experimental military-grade combat augmentations then spend the rest of it scavenging 10mm bullets from abandoned petrol stations and corpses, 4 rounds at a time Because augment yourself all you want, you can never escape capitalism maaaaan
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FactsAreUseless posted:This is because Gilgamesh represents the player in their purest form. No regard for the story, the world, anything like that. Just an obsessive desire to get the best, biggest, shiniest weapons. My whine is when games do this, like when Skyrim had all these asides about how the PC seeks power and shiny things with no regard for anything else. I just don't play games that way, so it's always kind of jarring. I'm not interested in loot and minmaxing numbers is the most boring thing in the world so I wish games wouldn't try to be clever by going 'ah yes, gameplay mechanics don't make sense in real life. you killed how many people again?'.
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Leal posted:
Well it is a sim and that does sound like the Genuine Warfare Experience
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My favourite truth in the middle thing was when they showed the rich neighbourhoods being evacuated. I was expecting lots of cheesy scenes of the Vox mistreating people, but no apparently they only attack soldiers, the neighbourhoods are empty of civilians, and the worst you see is that the rich had to leave all their stuff behind. And these are the people the game says are just as bad as literal slavers. I'm not even a communist, but come on.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:Yes, that's the worst they show and definitely not the wall with bloody scalps hanging on it. But IIRC there are like three, and all the bodies are of soldiers. It's not exactly nice, but on the other hand, slavers. Inspector Gesicht posted:If I directed Bioshock Infinite I would put in a game-mechanic whereby the more random snacks you eat, the fatter you become. You'll run slower, you'll jump lower, and your fingers would become too fat to operate any handguns. This is un-American. Strategic Tea has a new favorite as of 16:09 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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Your Gay Uncle posted:I'm replaying Dark Souls and just got to the Duke's a Archives. This is supposed to be Seath the Scaleless's labratory and library but he's a huge gently caress off dragon and everything here is man sized. How is he supposed to get inside? There aren't any dragon sized doors anywhere. Even if he got in how is he supposed to do research? The books would be the size of a postage stamp to him. Actually the Archives are one of my favourite little things in games. All around you'll see huge piles of rusted machinery. Throughout the rest of the city, there are tons of contraptions to rotate bridges and move entire towers. What I take away from it is that Seath designed Anor Londo's mechanical la de da and the traps in Sen's fortress. It was only after he began researching immortality and IMO designing the bonfires that he lost it and left his machines to rust.
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How on earth are people running out of inventory space in Witcher 3? Unless you're literaly stopping playing every five minutes to spam your loot all key all round every peasant's hut. Which would be my little thing dragging the fame down, if I actually did it...
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I thought it was a good twist because that's what 'kill the rich hurr hurr' actually involves.
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Jastiger posted:It'd make more sense if you could do something about it after letting them in and punish those responsible without being called "evil". Bourgeoise spotted
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Cleretic posted:Slowly, I've realized the biggest problem I have with Fallout 4. Everything else I've complained about here or elsewhere is a problem, but it's one I can fix and then not worry about. But there's a big one that's been staring me in the face, that I don't think I could reasonably ever fix.  As an immersion sperg, I just don't want to play as the kind of person who'd be idyllic and happily settled in Fallout's awful pre war dystopia. It's like if Skyrim started you as a happily married Thalmor interrogator enjoying an early retirement (wait no that would be awesome)
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I imagine "hey want to look at my wares" actually costs $500 a word, plus more for acting. Because it needs to go through an 8 step writing flowchart and a lore consistency check of course 
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Sounds like you'd already decided you wouldn't like the game tbf  Aso I recommend not hoarding or looting anything much in TW3 or any other rpg because a) it's boring and b) there's never any point
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It's not like you have to slog through reams of text. It summarises very clearly in your face with three pictures 'weak to <magic ability><potion><sword buff>'. Most of the time you don't need to exploit the weaknesses at all and the only clunky interface bit is pressing b to bring up the bestiary.
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Isn't the plot about a Nice Guy rescuing his beloved except it turns out she's running away from him and prefers some DUMB JOCK? No half assed nuclear bomb analogy can redeem that.
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The Byzantine Emperor supposedly had a mechanical throne with metal birds that would chirp and flutter:to impress visitors 
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quote:My point is it took itself way too seriously for what it is. Like yeah, let's take Mario and turn it into a shounen anime, what can go wrong? Found your problem (Seiously though just because worthless hacks can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done)
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But yes sonic and mario are no place for plot
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smuh posted:Talos Principle so far has two things gettin me down: But Gandhi was a nuclear warmonger? :civ:
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Stuntman posted:The alt-right is gaining a disturbing amount of traction and GBS is basically ground zero for the experiment of letting conservatives have free reign of the forums. It's lovely, but it's the reality and I don't see it changing anytime soon. As awful as liberal GBS was to read, it was at least correct and wasn't harmful. It's not the right, it's leftists who are jealous that gays and women got rights while the 'murder the rich heh but only ironically of course' movement got ignored.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I for one am not being ironic on that matter, kill the rich and their liberal enablers You are posting on in tenbux video game thread from a device that is worth literally thousands of days of twelve hour backbreaking factory labour.
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Woolie Wool posted:What? You're expecting schlocky video game space opera to actually be creative? The ME protheans were cool when it turned out that (at least in their final days) they were just pointlessly cruel bigots who couldn't get enough of burning puppy orphanages  for the good of the galaxy making the hard choices
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Cythereal posted:The final Inquisition DLC fixed that, though, by revealing that if you killed Leliana in Origins then the Leliana you've been dealing with in 2 and Inquisition was never actually her. Okay that's pretty cool and makes me want to finish inquisition
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Please don't taint the name of lord of the rings with plastic dungeons and dragons pap  Seriously though, most of the 'generic fantasy' stereotypes are taken from tolkein but only after being wrung through the commercial comic-book-grade wringer that they're totally changed E: goonsay x1000 Strategic Tea has a new favorite as of 22:10 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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MisterBibs posted:Yeah, CHIM. It's also used to justify why places like Cyrodill went from unplayable rainy fields of rice to Generic Fantasy Land: Tiber Septim did it. Players and major characters have CHIM. Nah Kirkbride is the guy. He made Elder Scrolls lore into a beautiful black hole made of two parts LSD and one part Buddhism The Cyrodiil retcon was dumb as gently caress though and it's blatant rear end covering for a marketing decision. In my heart Cyrodiil is still Imperial Chinese Venice, capital of the Roman Empire. Strategic Tea has a new favorite as of 22:14 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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It's just one tool in the ~games are art~ toolkit. We started out making games where YOU get to feel go because you're the hero who kicked rear end. Now we've learned that YOU can also feel bad because YOU pressed f to white phosphorous. Basically let's get over the cool new idea already and use the tools as tools rather than the focus points for game after game.
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I think it only becomes silly when the game seems to morally judge you for continuing to play. The only possible immoral element would be if you were loving all the civilian murder and couldn't get enough. As it is the game is trying very hard to make you not enjoy the carnage, hence the WP Full Life Consequences. Otherwise no you aren't 'complicit' by continuing to play because it's all fake and you're presumably looking at it in the bleak, depressing spirit it was written in. Halfassed analogy - you aren't complicit in Vietnam because you didn't stop watching Full Metal Jacket the moment you realised no action romp was coming.
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