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Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

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ugh, worst video ever

"Your too late"
"laugther"

##vote Asiina

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Asiina posted:

That's the only version on Youtube that isn't some weird fandub of the scene.

you watched them all :allears:

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Jan 20, 2004

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Pander posted:

Our empire is only cool bros allowed.

Sucks to be yours.

mr.capps posted:

alright so your entire empire is scum
##vote Pander

Pander posted:

Only a scum would ever think that a scum could be a cool bro.

##vote capps

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Jan 20, 2004

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But what about EMPIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Jan 20, 2004

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mr.capps I bought one of your mystery boxes once and I was disappoint. How can you guarantee that this wouldn't happen again

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Jan 20, 2004

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Meinberg posted:

Capps has revealed the contents of the mystery box to the rest of the empire, and I can assure you that it is well worth the money.
Oh did he now

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Jan 20, 2004

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Our empire goal doesn't require the blood of town in order for us to win hth

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Jan 20, 2004

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I hope Mali was disarmed before the new government took power. Because if you thought Poque was evil...

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Jan 20, 2004

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They can't be nice.


Although the post histories thing was a very nice thing to do, Diq.

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Jan 20, 2004

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Except that YPM hadn't even posted in the empiredoc yet, when he was confirming and cracking jokes here.

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Jan 20, 2004

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Byers2142 posted:

Hey, I'm in this game now!

So why do I not trust the diplomats? They're able to talk to each other, and we're supposed to take on faith that all of them are town and will share pro-empire information? Hell, we're being told there are possible alliance talks, but we're not allowed to know between whom. We knew that "an empire" was going to tech up this turn, but not which empire.

Fun Facts about Ethiopia!

Ethiopia is allegedly the final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant, and is the purported home of the Queen of Sheba.
Your diplomat decides what he tells your empire. :colbert:

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Jan 20, 2004

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Byers2142 posted:

And holding back helps... how? You really think a scum diplomat doesn't exist? So scum know what's being said in the diplodoc and diplomats obviously do, but us rank and file grunts are supposed to just grin and take it?

Mafia's a game about an uninformed majority hunting scum and trying to become informed. I'm becoming more and more anxious about the idea that diplomats are becoming an elite group where information is hoarded and doled out as a select few see fit, especially when corruption's likely in that grouping. Transparency is crucial if the uninformed may become the enlightened.

A functional imperial government needs open discussion between diplomat and members, or you risk crowning a scum emperor in the guise of a "strategic diplomat." I'm getting scummy vibes, at least in Sandy's play as our diplomat. We were told that someone was teching but not who. We've been signed up for an alliance, and we don't know with who! Does anyone out there not a diplomat know who we're allied with? Can you tell me, so I don't send Aksum warriors to camp out on your lawn?

##vote Sandwolf

Control of information to direct night actions, general shadiness in the doc, so Sandy, I like you but you drew scum.
That is pretty silly to be in an alliance and you don't even know who.

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Jan 20, 2004

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Byers2142 posted:

I tried. I was told that we weren't to know, and that the ally was doing the same. Meaning there's two empire diplomats that have signed up 9 or ten player in a super alliance and didn't tell most of them. The Illuminati are moving, sheeple!
Has he told other people in your empire?

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Jan 20, 2004

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Sandwolf posted:

Byers whole post reminds me more of a "rebel against the man" post rather than casing.
I was agreeing with him more, until you mentioned that he hadn't really said anything in-doc about this. It sounds more like he wants to get rid of you.

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Jan 20, 2004

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Hal Incandenza posted:

It's true, Byers hadn't said much about it at all.

I don't know how I follow that he's trying to get rid of Sandwolf. Wouldn't that just out him in a bad position both in the game and in our empire if it works as Sandwolf turns out to be town?

Admittedly I have some anti-Byers bias because yuming was giving me scummy vibes, but I just don't quite follow this particular logic.
Once Sandwolf is dead, and if he flipped town, it would be easy to say, "well he seemed scummy" and move on from there. Maybe Byers wants to be diplo.

Between the two, I'd vote Byers, mostly for not sharing his opinion in the empire doc, and just attacking the diplomat in thread initially.

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Jan 20, 2004

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Tom Tucker posted:

Wouldn't that fact that he replaced in 5 hours ago explain this?

(am I mistaken in this I feel like I might be mixing up Byers / some other guy or something because if it is the guy who just replaced in why are people acting like he's responsible for weighing in before he was actually in the game?)
Hm, when did Byers get access to the empire doc? Was it today? Or was it when Diq announced yuming's quit and subsequent replacement?

If he gave a crap about his empire, you'd think he'd ask/discuss in the doc first, maybe get some clarification.

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Jan 20, 2004

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##explore village

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Jan 20, 2004

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busb posted:

As dawn graces the beginning of the age of metal for some, for others, life just got even harder. Chief Amnistar of the Castille was squatting outside his lavish hut, when all of a sudden he is ambushed from behind, and a spear thrown from the bushes crashes through his chest. He utters a single word as he falls, but they are lost to the ravages of time, and his people shatter without his leadership.

Amnistar, :freep: Imperialist Legion-aligned Castille :freep:, has been assassinated Day 2
Castille: Successful espionage attacks also steal half damage rounded up in $

Although the loss is saddening, scouts have reported that on the fringes of the world, villages and ruins of lost civilisations have been discovered!

:sun: Day Event! :sun:
Each empire may have one of its nations that isn't the Diplomat publically ##explore village once. But be warned, it could be a barbaric trap!
This is an interesting flip, because TT flipped Empire-aligned yesterday.

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Jan 20, 2004

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anime gently caress pillow posted:


Tremendous Taste - The Netherlands - Empire Aligned - has been dismantled Day 1!

busb posted:


Amnistar, :freep: Imperialist Legion-aligned Castille :freep:, has been assassinated Day 2

:allears:

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Jan 20, 2004

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Probably just a mod error, but I think we should all freak the gently caress out anyways in the meantime.

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Jan 20, 2004

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VivaNova posted:



Was Amni a legit 3p?
Imperialist Legion are probably all 3P

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Jan 20, 2004

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DGK2000 posted:

No.

Imperialist Legion
50 pounds of bread - England
Crazyeyes - France
Amnistar - Castille
Ernie. - Portugal
Tremendous TastePander -

Amnistar, Imperialist Legion-aligned
What if they all are self-aligned together?

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Jan 20, 2004

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Oh wait TT already flipped town. That ruins that theory

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Sandwolf posted:

I think Imperialist Legion = 3P/SK equivalent.

Pander/TT was in that empire.

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Jan 20, 2004

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busb posted:

Stop freaking the gently caress out, its just a slightly different terminology!
Empire Aligned is the same thing as being aligned to your empire!

Amnistar was Empire Aligned, not some other faction aligned.

But freaking out is fun.

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Jan 20, 2004

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Byers2142 posted:


National Powers was the main thing, the picture was a cell phone picture of a small portion of a larger spreadsheet.
what the gently caress is going on in this game

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Jan 20, 2004

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Asiina posted:

Also since a majority agreed in the doc to share it, here it is.


random fact:

"8bux" has been only used twice during the entire game.

on page 1

Meinberg posted:

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8Bux and Capps have both been playing longer than me. 8Bux is not terrible.
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on page 34

Ixtlilton posted:

Ah, so there's the kill they can possibly influence, even if it might eventually take out one of their own, vs. one they can't at all. Got it. The whole leak thing seems pretty nonsensical to me, outing that you have people in three empires for that return just seems like terrible play. 8bux's thing to verify it's a real leak is a good idea.

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Asiina posted:

Also since a majority agreed in the doc to share it, here it is.


Ernie's ability is the only one written in the second person.

Almost as if it were copied out of a PM or something. :allears:

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Juanito posted:

Ernie's ability is the only one written in the second person.

Almost as if it were copied out of a PM or something. :allears:

Ernie aka FV

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DGK2000 posted:

Both Rarity and Meinberg have used 8bux in the doc.
Interesting. Nobody has used it in our doc.

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Hal Incandenza posted:

Clearly we should lynch Meinberg based on these facts
Except that Meinberg is listed there too, and his name is misspelled as Meinburg. Nobody has misspelled it in this game, with the exception of the mod in the OP (it's since been fixed).

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Hal Incandenza posted:

Ernie-Meinburg-bowmore book it.
I'd also go for anybody who used '8bux', not '8Bux' though.

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Hal Incandenza posted:

wait are there more of those?
The only person to use '8bux' in the thread is Ixt. DGK said that rarity used '8bux' in their thread.

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8bux as it is written in the image.

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Eight Dollars posted:

Meinberg is also one of the people with a completely wrong power so ???
I don't consider him a suspect.

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Ixtlilton posted:

You do realize I don't have access to either of those docs, right?
Which docs? The one from the screenshot?

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Ixtlilton posted:

The one it was posted in, and the other empire doc with the powers are from.
Well, if it were a sheet from a scumdoc, someone else could have taken the screenshot. I'm assuming people are working together to compile info.

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Jan 20, 2004

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What about Ernie's?

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Seriously. I want to be a literary detective now. I don't know exactly what that is but I think I'm gonna quit my job and find out.

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Rarity posted:

Hmm. I've never played Mafia with him before. If people can confirm he's often called that then I'll have to have a rethink.
The term was only used twice during 35 pages of posts. Meinberg used '8Bux'

Ixt is the only person to use 8bux in the thread and it was on page 34.

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