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devmd01 posted:Why the hell are you even responding if you’re on PTO? I responded out of courtesy, because he obviously doesn't know about the rotating weekend schedule. He was recently brought in a couple of months ago to basically fix Ops, because it is nonexistent. I'm thinking "oh, he's never seen that calendar. That's cool, I'll let him know." There's a ton of day to day things no one has bothered to tell this guy. But this is the same guy who said if the CEO told him to wash his car and mow his lawn he'd do it, and that being able to respond when you're off is the nature of the industry. I suppose as time goes on though, if this continues and I don't look for another job then it's on me.
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devmd01 posted:Why the hell are you even responding if you’re on PTO? Not an empty quote, here. If you've got some on-call agreement beforehand sure, but drat I wouldn't have responded with anything after "it is my day off".
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Two patient saints in this thread. I don't have your emotional maturity.Vargatron posted:I spent 10 hours in the past couple of weeks scheduling and creating an orientation presentation, only to have 2 people show up. One per session. Oh well, at least I got a good recording of it. And Zapf Dingbat posted:Ops Manager: As far as responding, it's a good thing to respond on your day off because you can score some points by letting him know you're off, he'll give you a quick "oh thanks, enjoy your day!" and pivot to a coworker. Takes you just a second of your day. It just seems that someone didn't give this ops manager the outline of how those exchanges go.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:48
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We used to have a summer picnic here until the company wanted to charge each employee $50, with $20 per kid. Guess how well that went over. No more summer picnics now.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:54
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Zapf Dingbat posted:Am I about to get fired for not working on my day off? Like... What the gently caress? What is he going to change? Is he going to take away all of your days off or something? What an rear end in a top hat.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:01
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:This would piss me off. I set this whole thing up for you, and you don't even appreciate it enough to show up? Horseshit. The icing on the cake was that this was something I had "dropped the ball on" and was reprimanded for about a month ago. We didn't have the meeting originally because nobody would show. Can't wait until the director comes by and asks how the meeting went so I can respond "nobody showed up except two people".
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Aug 17, 2018 19:04
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Vargatron posted:The icing on the cake was that this was something I had "dropped the ball on" and was reprimanded for about a month ago. We didn't have the meeting originally because nobody would show. Can't wait until the director comes by and asks how the meeting went so I can respond "nobody showed up except two people". It'll still be your fault. See, if you had done it a month ago the room would have been packed! 
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Aug 17, 2018 19:05
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I had to schedule a meeting a month in advance due to internal/vendor scheduling conflicts. I just got an email from one of the internal managers bitching that I made it a month out, so I had to explain that it was his departments staff & outside vendor scheduling that caused this. One of the other departments managers sent me a private message calling the manager "noise" and that I did the right thing. That was a nice pick me up for a Friday afternoon
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Aug 17, 2018 19:33
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:
I work 4 days a week so I always have the monday off. Obviously my team and managers know this as well as people outside my team and vendors I interact with often. They only reach out to me for emergencies and that’s why I always anwser when they call and if I’m able to. I wouldn’t pick up the phone when I’m cooking or at the doctor but I do call back. 99% of these calls start with: “Hi, I know it’s your day off and I’m really sorry to bother you”. They know I’m doing them a favor and it creates a lot of goodwill and they are usually just 1-5 min phone calls. The moment people start abusing this I’m not anwsering them anymore. It’s usually project or account managers who do that.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:34
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devmd01 posted:Why the hell are you even responding if you’re on PTO? This. There are about 3 people from work who I will answer the phone for when I am off. Everyone else can leave a voicemail that I will check at my leisure and respond to appropriately.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:42
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AlternateAccount posted:This. Why won't it DIE?! It doesn't work for anything at all, ever. Everyone always hates it, even the people that think they like it actually hate it, they just don't know it. It died when cubicles were invented. Companies stubbornly worked the next 40-50 years to bring it back so they could cut costs with a healthy dash of things like execs who started their company as 4 or 5 guys in a single room with no dividers so clearly open offices work!!
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The most you should respond with on PTO is "I am out of the office and unable to assist today."
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fishmech posted:It died when cubicles were invented. Companies stubbornly worked the next 40-50 years to bring it back so they could cut costs with a healthy dash of things like execs who started their company as 4 or 5 guys in a single room with no dividers so clearly open offices work!!
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Thanatosian posted:Anyone else's open office plan have everyone in the open office layout except senior management, who have their own offices, or is that just my employer? Nope, my previous employer had that, and it really drove home how superior the management team was.
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Thanatosian posted:Anyone else's open office plan have everyone in the open office layout except senior management, who have their own offices, or is that just my employer? Is it just straight-up DS9 with a stairway up to the boss' office and everything?
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Aug 17, 2018 21:10
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Thanatosian posted:Anyone else's open office plan have everyone in the open office layout except senior management, who have their own offices, or is that just my employer? Yep I have that here. I don't like it, and it *really* gives this whole 'us vs them' mentality to both employees and management. Only the Sales VP and myself really spend our time out on the floor
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Sickening posted:We have an expensive, complicated layout of white noise systems. We have tried every one ever made at this point. While it does help there are just some things that aren't possible right now. For one, conference space in an open office office concept all fall flat on their faces once you try to use a speakerphone for calls. Nothing on the market is going to keep these spaces from being a total interruption for 100's of feet around them unless the spaces has walls, a roof, and a closed door. My company has tried and failed on using mobile wall setups for these conference room spaces and none of them do even a passable job at containing noise. My company was smart enough to retain conference and team rooms. Weaponized Autism posted:We have something similar next week, doing Escape Room (which I've never done before but sounds fun) followed by Dave & Busters. The team building event at our annual “IS Camp” is an escape room. Sounds like I might enjoy it. Probably helps that I actually like most of my fellow IS folks.
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$bigbank I consult at is managing directors get a office with a view, executive directors share an interior office with another executive director, and VP/plebs sit in open concept floor plan
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I... I think I got a job at an honest to god good MSP? Everyone is chill, they use a pretty good software stack, they have cool clients, the snacks are actually good, they encourage taking time off to prevent burn out. I mean, it's only been 3 days here so I'm sure things might change a bit but I feel like I might have landed in a good spot and it's really put my anxiety at ease.
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Aug 17, 2018 23:34
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Enjoy the 3 more days you have until the honeymoon phase ends
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Aug 17, 2018 23:36
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Today was my first day working in a real IT job! So far I had to do a lot of forgotten passwords and account setups. Is this my life for the next 30 years? I really hope so! They got me donuts for breakfast to celebrate my first day. We had a catered pizza lunch, and in the afternoon the IT team all got bubble tea! Plus they keep the kitchen stocked with SO MANY SNACKS that magically get refilled every night. drat I love my job.
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Aug 17, 2018 23:58
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Thanatosian posted:Anyone else's open office plan have everyone in the open office layout except senior management, who have their own offices, or is that just my employer? The CEO of my company has a private office but it's mostly used for meetings bc he has a desk on the floor! It's kind of adorable.
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Today was my first day [...]drat I love my job. 
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Congrats on the new job! Sounds like a pretty cool place. But seriously, aspire to more than password resets and account creation. If you blink you'll end up 10 years later with no marketable skills and you'll be stuck. It's not hyperbole. It happens to a lot of folks in IT. We've all worked with them. Internet Explorer fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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You just opened the door into a room full of jaded old alcoholics and now we are hissing at you. Light and cheer burns us close the door.
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GreenNight posted:We used to have a summer picnic here until the company wanted to charge each employee $50, with $20 per kid. Hahahahahahahahaha  AnonymousNarcotics posted:The CEO of my company has a private office but it's mostly used for meetings bc he has a desk on the floor! It's kind of adorable. This is a good way to do it, provided mgmt only uses the office when they actually need to do things behind closed doors. Too often management just locks themselves away from the day to day and then is hopelessly clueless when problems arise because they don't actually know what everyone is doing while they browse porn all day.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:You just opened the door into a room full of jaded old alcoholics and now we are hissing at you. Light and cheer burns us close the door. 
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Why did someone draw a comic about me
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Docjowles posted:Why did someone draw a comic about me I close my blinds like that a couple times a month and chuckle to myself every time because of the comic
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:This is a good way to do it, provided mgmt only uses the office when they actually need to do things behind closed doors. Too often management just locks themselves away from the day to day and then is hopelessly clueless when problems arise because they don't actually know what everyone is doing while they browse porn all day. In fairness to senior management, they don't care about any of us, nothing special about the call center.
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Matt Zerella posted:I... I think I got a job at an honest to god good MSP? Everyone is chill, they use a pretty good software stack, they have cool clients, the snacks are actually good, they encourage taking time off to prevent burn out. I mean, it's only been 3 days here so I'm sure things might change a bit but I feel like I might have landed in a good spot and it's really put my anxiety at ease. Congrats! Good MSPs do exist. Some owners / managers give a poo poo about the company instead of about pure money, so they stand up to lovely clients and get rid of lovely employees. I worked for a good MSP and nearly lasted two years without a ton of stress. That said, after two years, there is nothing left to learn no matter how good the company is. Just keep working on moving out of the MSP world because it is a dead end, even for management.
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Today was my first day working in a real IT job! So far I had to do a lot of forgotten passwords and account setups. Is this my life for the next 30 years? I will warn you now, this is how you become a really fat goon if you aren't already one. Everyone rewards IT with candy, donuts and pizza. EVERYONE. It is far too easy to fall into the snack trap and discover that you have put on 30 pounds over a year.
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mewse posted:I close my blinds like that a couple times a month and chuckle to myself every time because of the comic I live in the Pacific Northwest where sunshine is indeed scarce. We just moved into a new house because there is way more light and the general vibe is far less cave-like. First thing I did when setting up my home office with its nice big window and accompanying view was put up blinds.
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chin up everything sucks posted:I will warn you now, this is how you become a really fat goon if you aren't already one. Everyone rewards IT with candy, donuts and pizza. EVERYONE. It is far too easy to fall into the snack trap and discover that you have put on 30 pounds over a year. The other end of the spectrum, of course, is a C-level that won't hire fat people
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Zapf Dingbat posted:Am I about to get fired for not working on my day off? Do you report to this guy?
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Bob Morales posted:Cheaper. Work still gets done. Same reason people outsource poo poo to whatever-stan. We do open spaces at work, about 70% of campus is the target I've heard. It lets us cram more people into a building; with an assist from very generous WFH policies. We are not cheap about the spaces. Right now we're testing some big-rear end curved Samsung displays, at least 32", to replace dual HP s231d displays as the standard workstation. If they work out, we're ordering 700 of them for the new building that's under construction. All of the open space floors are broken up into neighborhoods. They're well supplied with breakout and conference rooms. Some have things like diner booths, some with monitors, for small team huddles. All of the desks raise and lower. There are plants, windows with vast views, and all sorts of amenities. I don't think it's possible to get much better for an open space environment, but we're partnered with Lawrence Berkeley so if it can be done, we'll do it. There's a few images here: https://www.gene.com/good/sustainability/workplace-wellness A key takeaway: "B35 consumes 60 percent less electricity and 71 percent less fuel than the national standard for similarly sized buildings." Open Space is saving us mad cash. The B35 they talk about ? Beautiful piece of architecture and as green as it gets. Right now they're tearing up the parking lot to put in more electric vehicle charging stations. Nice shot of the neighborhoods from: https://www.gene.com/stories/building-health Seriously, check that building out. I've worked in a lot of different offices over the years and this is a great space.  I think most of the benefit from open work spaces comes not from the floor plan or the WFH, but from having leadership that thinks "Cube farms suck, we can do better. M-F 9-5 with a commute sucks, we can do better." tl;dr Follow the links, open space can be done right.
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While they were renovating the floor my team lives on, they shunted us to an area where it was like two people to an office and productivity shot through the roof. Then we moved back and now all management are hearing are jokes about the "IT Sweatshop" because it looks like a bangladesh garment factory.
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guppy posted:Do you report to this guy? Yes.
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White noise chat we must have a real lovely one because someone accidentally turned it off a while back and when we turned it back on we got complaints and everyone said it was a relief when they noise they weren't aware of for the past 8 years went away.
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The chairs on that pic ar comfy as gently caress. I’m currently working on an open floor that’s fubar. A guy one island away from me apparently does telephone consults with technicians for small/medium business. Which means he’s basically calling 70-80% of the time. Which raises the noise level od the whole floor as people near him that need to talk raise their voice and then he does too. I work with big rear end over ear headphones all day since the guy moves to our floor. Also being distracted by people walking buy or talking next to me all the time is really annoying.
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