   Same comic talk rules as Arrow and Flash, namely quote:1.) The comics aren’t spoilers, but they’re also not on-topic. Use your discretion. “Holy poo poo, was that xxxxx character?” is probably okay, but a thousand words on how that’s not in canon, is not. I couldn't find in-character images of some of the actors, so if you've got one post it and I'll swap it out. hollylolly fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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I am really really super excited for this show, and the banner graphic for the OP is super cool.
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Oct 8, 2014 19:31
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I'm just really excited that Chas isn't Shia Labeouf.
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Oct 8, 2014 19:33
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While I like the Hellblazer stuff I've read (Mike Carey especially) I'm not really that attached to the property at all so I'm not really concerned so much with them "getting it right" like some have said as I am with just wanting a fun show.
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Oct 8, 2014 19:43
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Deadpool posted:While I like the Hellblazer stuff I've read (Mike Carey especially) I'm not really that attached to the property at all so I'm not really concerned so much with them "getting it right" like some have said as I am with just wanting a fun show. The thing with getting Hellblazer right is that it isn't about duplicating storylines or bringing in the correct characters, it's about getting the attitude right. Constantine has to be a bastard who is more than willing to use people. Anyone who gets close to Constantine has to be destroyed by him. And he needs to be cool and collected through all of that. Those are the things that make John Constantine distinctive and what the movie got wrong. I've got my fingers crossed that the current anti-hero trend in media means that the time is right for him.
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Oct 8, 2014 19:49
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Yeah, if they were to try and stay true to the spirit of it then they'd have to - assuming it even made multiple seasons - wipe out everyone but John, Chaz and the odd antagonist by the end of each season. If you're a mate of John's and you're not called Chaz, you're hosed, he's absolutely toxic to be around.
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Sentinel Red posted:Yeah, if they were to try and stay true to the spirit of it then they'd have to - assuming it even made multiple seasons - wipe out everyone but John, Chaz and the odd antagonist by the end of each season. If you're a mate of John's and you're not called Chaz, you're hosed, he's absolutely toxic to be around. They didn't elaborate on how Liv is being written out, but from what I heard it's probably death.
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Oct 8, 2014 23:38
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Sentinel Red posted:If you're a mate of John's and you're not called Chaz, you're hosed, he's absolutely toxic to be around. In the long run he gets everybody killed, but there's been a number of characters over the course of the series who survived for years in spite of him.
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Oct 9, 2014 03:01
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Really looking forward to this show. I actually liked the pilot well enough, but I'm aware that most people didn't and was seeing a lot of rumblings that Constantine would immediately flop because of it - hoping that the changes they made give the show more of a fighting chance. Of the myriad DC shows this fall, this is the one that I'm most interested in by far.
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Just found this after realizing I probably should not be posting poo poo in the comics thread. So, are leaked images considered spoilers? Because there are some that strongly suggest we will be seeing Mucus Membrane and Demon Constantine this season. As a long time fan of the character I am pretty pumped for this!
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Harold Perrineau seems to be approaching Phil Lamar / Sam Jackson levels of "I'm in every loving thing", but for television instead of voice acting and movies, respectively. The dude who plays Constantine did the voice acting and motion capture for Edward Kenway (the main guy) from rear end Creed: Black Flag, too. There's an IGN article with an interview with the showrunner, and it's kind of... ugh. He did the first season of Dexter, and thought of Dexter as the same type of "super hero" Constantine is. He says there's pretty much no chance of any sort of crossovers with other heroes (Swamp Thing specifically mentioned) because he's going for something more grounded. He says he can't show smoking, but wants to still use the cancer plot, and is playing with the idea of cuts with a cigarette up to his lips, etc., and how much he can get away with without actually showing him inhale. ... Personally, it didn't seem like he really gets Constantine, and I'm not really sure why he is doing this. This really needs to be on a channel that is going to let them play without kid gloves (we don't need a child loving a dog like in Hellblazer, but, hey). I think this show will end up being very similar to Supernatural. Firstborn fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Oct 23, 2014 07:03
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If I was making the OP I would have made the image large enough so I wouldn't have to hyphenate the main characters name. I watched the leaked pilot forever ago, I'm guessing they changed some stuff?
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Firstborn posted:Harold Perrineau seems to be approaching Phil Lamar / Sam Jackson levels of "I'm in every loving thing", but for television instead of voice acting and movies, respectively. I thought that Jim Corrigan has been cast, and he is not playing the douchebag version of him? I also thought that Dr. Fates helment was seen?
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Bilirubin posted:Just found this after realizing I probably should not be posting poo poo in the comics thread. As much as I love the story arc, I'd rather they waited til until after John's cancer arc before the purgin of his soul. He only created the second self as a way to gently caress over the First of the Fallen.
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Fateo McMurray posted:If I was making the OP I would have made the image large enough so I wouldn't have to hyphenate the main characters name. Well, you didn't, did you.  ...I fixed it. Thanks, somehow that slipped past me. bobkatt013 posted:I thought that Jim Corrigan has been cast, and he is not playing the douchebag version of him? I also thought that Dr. Fates helment was seen? Jim Corrigan has indeed been cast, and is a normal detective. So far. hollylolly fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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I'm super psyched about this show, but I'm afraid one of two things will happen. One, it will suck. Or two, it will own and get canceled. Fridays on NBC is not a great time to be on.
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I dunno, Grimm does pretty well there. I think Constantine has a good lead in, so no need to be pessimistic ...until the ratings come in.
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GreenNight posted:I'm super psyched about this show, but I'm afraid one of two things will happen. One, it will suck. Or two, it will own and get canceled. Fridays on NBC is not a great time to be on. Hellblazer is by far the comic I own the most of, so right with you, buddy.
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Firstborn posted:Harold Perrineau seems to be approaching Phil Lamar / Sam Jackson levels of "I'm in every loving thing", but for television instead of voice acting and movies, respectively. Now I'm not the most familiar with Constantine, but how in the gently caress does battling the supernatural and demons while having a running tiff with Lucifer count as grounded? I can sort of understand Swamp Thing, maybe, because that can get a little tripy depending on where you go with it, but no other heroes? Can't get the rights or don't want to be bothered getting them I can understand, but not our demon fighting magician show is just too serious for that kind of thing.
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Gyges posted:Now I'm not the most familiar with Constantine, but how in the gently caress does battling the supernatural and demons while having a running tiff with Lucifer count as grounded? I can sort of understand Swamp Thing, maybe, because that can get a little tripy depending on where you go with it, but no other heroes? Can't get the rights or don't want to be bothered getting them I can understand, but not our demon fighting magician show is just too serious for that kind of thing. Oh, no, dude. Those are explicitly his words. I'd prefer balls out crazy. http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/22/constantine-showrunner-talks-dc-comics-origins-swamp-thing-and-smoking "But look, if you saw that thing on TV or in a movie, are you going to buy into it or you going to look at it and go, “That’s just silly.” And that’s the challenge and more than anything, our goal, the reason Constantine works as a character is he’s grounded
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I don't really care for the continued calling of John as a magic user. Did nobody ready the comics?
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Rhyno posted:I don't really care for the continued calling of John as a magic user. Did nobody ready the comics? He did in New Castle and that went really well! I think by grounded he means John just thinks its "bullocks" and thinks of superheroes as stupid.
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bobkatt013 posted:He did in New Castle and that went really well! I think by grounded he means John just thinks its "bullocks" and thinks of superheroes as stupid. That was a group effort no less! I think it's in the Books of Magic mini where he enters the room and they narrator says "not a drop magic yet everyone in this room is terrified of him" or something along those lines.
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Oct 24, 2014 06:14
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Here's hoping that NBC doesn't just turn this into Supernatural 2.0.
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Deakul posted:Here's hoping that NBC doesn't just turn this into Supernatural 2.0. My girlfriend and her friends love Supernatural and won't shut up about how John looks like a Castiel ripoff.
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Rhyno posted:My girlfriend and her friends love Supernatural and won't shut up about how John looks like a Castiel ripoff. I look forward to the widespread belief that Constantine is just a Supernatural ripoff. Get an original idea, NBC.
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 New Episode Tonight Non Est Asylum (pilot) Based on the wildly popular comic book series Hellblazer from DC Comics, seasoned demon hunter and master of the occult John Constantine is armed with a ferocious knowledge of the dark arts and a wickedly naughty wit. He fights the good fight - or at least he did. With his soul already damned to hell, he's decided to abandon his campaign against evil until a series of events thrusts him back into the fray when an old friend's daughter becomes the target of supernatural forces.
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Remember kids, comic book adaptation pilots are usually overstuffed with exposition and generally not an accurate representation of what to expect later on.
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Deakul posted:Remember kids, comic book adaptation pilots are usually overstuffed with exposition and generally not an accurate representation of what to expect later on. I wish some of the early reviews I've been reading paid attention to this.
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Is it forbidden to discuss the movie here? While I know it wasn't very true to the comics, I really liked it. Tilda Swinton was great as Gabriel, Peter Stormare was phenomenal as Lucifer, Pruitt Taylor Vance is great in everything and I like Keanu a lot for some reason, I really enjoyed him in the movie. I heard it described as a great movie if you consider a movie about John Constantine's American cousin. I'm looking forward to this, but I don't really like any of the superhero shows that are on right now. I've heard that Shield got better, but I bailed about halfway through the first season. Arrow's first couple of episodes weren't enough to get me to watch the show and Gotham has been really bad so far unless the most recent episode really switched something up (Donal Logue is loving fantastic and deserves a better show).
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Oct 24, 2014 22:01
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Want to see Keanu in a amazing kick rear end movie? Go see John Wick that just opened this weekend.
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AFewBricksShy posted:
As someone who hated Arrow, I can tell you that The Flash is pretty entertaining, much much MUCH better than Gotham.
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Rhyno posted:That was a group effort no less! I think it's in the Books of Magic mini where he enters the room and they narrator says "not a drop magic yet everyone in this room is terrified of him" or something along those lines. Yeah, but that's because he prefers to bluff and hold back than actually do anything, not that he doesn't use magic at all. Even in that book he used magic to get around, get Tim Hunter on a plane to America without a passport, travel across the country, and then drop him back home without any time really passing.
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Random Stranger posted:Yeah, but that's because he prefers to bluff and hold back than actually do anything, not that he doesn't use magic at all. Even in that book he used magic to get around, get Tim Hunter on a plane to America without a passport, travel across the country, and then drop him back home without any time really passing. Parlor tricks and slight of hand. John has no rush all power at all and the bulk of the run of Hellblazer backs this up.
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I'm going to be THAT GUY and say that I'm going into this pre-annoyed because he doesn't smoke and is (apparently) straight. The show is already handicapped for me because of those two things- petty, I know, but imagine watching a TV show about a broke Batman with an orange Batsuit and you'll get how this feels for me as a Hellblazer fan. I'm willing to be surprised, though!
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Oct 25, 2014 03:07
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What exactly do demons from hell want with that nice lady from the ATT commercials?
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Well the exec producer said he's bi, but shrug. Also that they are doing everything they can do show that he smokes without him actually smoking.
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Oct 25, 2014 03:08
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The music is giving me a Sherlock Holmes vibe which I don't think I like.
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Well, I like his snarkiness so far. I don't know much about Hellblazer aside from the Constantine movie which wasn't that great but had cool ideas and cool presentation.
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howe_sam posted:What exactly do demons from hell want with that nice lady from the ATT commercials? She's actually one of them. She can read minds, remember?
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