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Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Didn't Horikoshi say he thought the origin story was the most compelling superhero plot? Maybe it just ends with the start of Deku's hero career and that's it, he just leaves it there.

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Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


RareAcumen posted:

Of all the proof of Horikoshi's Star Wars obsession, this is the one that you draw the line at?

Hell, Hori is showing restraint Lucas/Disney never did by giving the Force Ghosts hard rules to follow, rather than just "hey, we can reuse the characters for some convenient exposition after all!"

Their memories and personalities being tied to their quirks through DNA also gives me AssCreed vibes, amusingly enough.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


This is kind of necessary to reveal right the gently caress now though since if the truth about One For All comes out, this information neuters a ton of "All Might should have bestowed his quirk to X!" hot takes in-universe: there probably really was nobody but Deku who realistically could have been the appropriate successor.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Nephthys posted:

Saving Shigaraki has felt like it's where the series has been heading but it's also mind-boggling to even consider. In a lot of ways how it would be handled will reflect the series ultimate resolution. How can you allow a guy who can disintegrate cities exist without crippling him or recklessly risking countless lives? How can a peaceful society function when you don't know if someone could kill you with a mere touch? Should such people have their quirks disabled in some way to preserve society?

It's the Twice problem, but even worse. Even if you just send him to prison you'd need to have even more of a horrific rights-violation than AfO got to safely contain him.

I feel like an AtLA ending was steadfastly rejected in the Hideout Raid arc where the guy who's entire plan revolved around mass removal of Quirks was consistently depicted as one of the worst monsters of the series and literally everything he did was considered abhorrently wrong. His Quirk Removal Bullets being stolen and used exclusively by the main villain thereafter just punctuated the point "Removing Quirks is not the solution to the societal problems" that was made.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Mraagvpeine posted:

Why does All For One want One For All again?

Because he can't have it. It's the same with Search: once he sees something wants, especially a quirk, he has a kleptomaniac urge to possess it thereafter.

Although, Search also solved a big problem he had with OFA: Deku can never truly hide from Shigaraki again.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


It seems to me like UA is the last remaining pillar of the old Hero Society in Japan. It's the last fortress of hope in a churning sea of chaos. It pretty much has to be AFO/Tomura's next target because if it, the pro heroes and especially the cream of the crop hero trainees falls, it will symbolize the end of Japan's Hero System and crush any remaining hope of restoration of the old comfortable status quo in the populace's collective psyche. Nowhere would ever be safe for heroes again in Japan, it would be a total open season free-for-all.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Deku's plan to keep everyone else safe by staying away is flawed because AFO/Tomura can just... attack UA anyway to force Deku to come to him?

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Rhonne posted:

I wonder if that's why Deku looks so tired in that last panel. Super powered, wide ranged Danger Sense going off constantly.

Ever watch Bruce Almighty and the protagonist just gets a daily telepathic blast of prayers he can't do anything about from everyone in the city?

I imagine it's like that.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Deku in the first chapter is literally just supposed to be the typical Shonen Jump fan in that age group, and all that implies.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


JTA probably wouldn't rankle quite so much if the manga felt like it's going end 200+ chapters later than it probably will.

It was well paced for a One Piece level behemoth, not what we seem to be on track for.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


ImpAtom posted:

MHA as a series is immensely uninterested in who actually wins the fight more than how a fight makes someone look, either good or bad. It's one of the good things about it. Someone winning a fight can be satisfying but only if it is something besides just a physical victory. Otherwise you have Endeavor who is king of winning and absolutely rock bottom in winning in ways that matter to the themes of the story.

Counterpoint: Momo's phyrric victory over Gigantomacha, in which she and the rest of that group accomplished their primary objective of knocking him out for capture, but failed utterly at doing so before he murdered Midnight and a fuckton of civilians along the way.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


He ain't the fifth, so no.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Sindai posted:

instead of superpowers everyone just gets a ghost Deku in their head sternly lecturing them if they do anything bad.

"Deku Ghost is extremely shy and uncomfortable in everyone's brain space" is a whole new dimension of Dekubowl fanfic I did not even consider.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Asuron posted:

It’s fine for rescue operations and support, but then it begs the question of why have a combat entrance exam where only combat based quirks would really shine.

This is literally the point of Shinsho's subplot: it's a bad test if they're looking for skills and quirks other than those predisposed for combat effectiveness. Yes, there's the rescue points, but they deliberately keep that secret from the applicants so they don't know non-combat roles are possible for that test, and also they still require bailing out your fellow applicants out of being smacked around by the aggressive bots somehow.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Electric Phantasm posted:

It is weird no one ever told Midoriya to lift some weights or something.

It's strongly implied Midoriya's mother was hoping he'd just grow out of his hero obsession and pursue a quieter career track when push came to shove.

Which did almost happen until lol deus ex All Might.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


You do realize, in country where quirk use is heavily regulated by the bureaucracy, once the diagnosis was made Deku probably had "quirkless" in the Quirk field of all his official records, right? Can't exactly lie once it's in the system, All Might had to pull strings to get his records on the matter changed without raising too many eyebrows in the lead up to the Entrance Exam.

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Eej posted:

The original pitch of Midoriya being a Quirkless guy who had to keep up with a Quirk society was probably canned in part because of this, imo

so we're agreed this is gonna end like fma and deku will give up ofa somehow and the last frame is him starting his quirkless pro hero career, right

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


christmas boots posted:

The traitor? It's you, dear reader.

I'm here for MHA suddenly becoming the Mr Robot manga.

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Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


Shere posted:

At the very least, the 4th is the first user to (live long enough to) note the shortened lifespan, and by that point it was One for All with presumably 2 quirks, plus the 4th's Danger Sense.

I'm kind of curious if the strain is relative to the number of quirks or if it's just "if you had a quirk already and take on another it fucks you up" as in One for All counts as its own single quirk and the addition of one more natural quirk is the issue.

Regardless, I doubt the supermax quirk prison convict is going to be super concerned about dying around 40 right now.

Shaving years off your life for a quick power boost now is a tried and true shonen tradition.

Now I want a gag comic of former shonen protags bedridden in a nursing home at 40 because they hosed up their bodies so bad defeating Skeletor or whatever.

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