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froglet posted:TL;DR I don't hate gambling itself, I just hate the industry. Lottery tickets are just stupid and boring, and I agree with you about VLTs (I believe that's the Albertan word for pokies) and slot machines in general, but do you feel the same way about casinos that run poker and table games? I see a big difference between that and putting a machine in the back of a bar somewhere.
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Konomex posted:
Wine, and to a lesser extent, high quality beer, enhances the flavours of food you're eating if you pair them correctly. That's the only "good" reason I can think of, assuming you're not in it for the intoxication.
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Feb 5, 2015 15:15
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I never understood the problem with drinking alone. Frankly, when I'm having a glass or two of wine with dinner alone, it's much more responsible (and, dare I say, enjoyable if you count the after-effects) than getting shitfaced with my friends, or with random strangers. If you're getting sloppy drunk by yourself, yeah, that's a bit of a problem if it's happening regularly.
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Feb 11, 2015 15:31
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Ramagamma posted:Personally, I don't see the point in having, for arguments sake, 2 beers or 2 glasses of wine or whatever. Either go big or go home. Good alcoholic beverages taste good. If I just wanted to get pisstanked, I'd drink straight vodka. It's also nice to have a one- or two-drink buzz and enjoy it while not stumbling around and slurring your words like a moron; as well, you feel so much better the next day.
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Feb 11, 2015 23:10
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Ramagamma posted:I respect people who want to find a partner but not in a pub or club environment, I've never in my life walked up to a girl and said "can I buy you a drink", in my mind you'd be as well walking up to a prostitute and saying "can I pay you to have sex with me", at least that way you are being clear with your intentions. Here's the thing about that: many women want both drinks and sex, and will appreciate you buying them a drink, talking to them, and maybe having sex with them later! It's crazy, I know, but it turns out that women don't hate sex.
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Feb 13, 2015 20:08
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Qwazes posted:Don't take aspirin once a day, there's a pretty good chance (with respect to non-prescription drugs) of having a gut bleed and dying. If aspirin were released today, it would be a prescription, or not even allowed out of clinical trial. And in terms of liver-wrecking properties, Tylenol is probably just as bad as drinking one or two drinks, yet you don't see many people abstaining from that completely on the basis of liver health. It's actually scary to see how many people will take a Tylenol to deal with a hangover-related headache -- that's just a bad idea all the way around.
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Feb 16, 2015 19:55
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EugeneJ posted:Something an alcoholic would say No, pretty much every health authority in the world agrees that one or two drinks a day is not going to cause you any adverse health effects, although they generally recommend at least one day of complete abstention from alcohol. The liver is able to do its job without damaging itself, it's only when it gets overtaxed and you don't allow it to recover that it gets damaged. When "a couple" turns into 4 or more drinks, and you're doing it regularly, that's when your liver stops being really happy about it.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:38
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Namarrgon posted:There is so much debate and uncertainty about this it is a bit deceptive to say this. Even the research that shows that alcohol may have a beneficial effect (and not all of them do) never exceed 1 standard unit a day and most are lower than that. Yes, to get the possible beneficial effects of alcohol, you probably don't need to have two drinks per day by any means. That doesn't mean that drinking more than 1 standard drink per day is terrible for your health, it just means it's not beneficial. In the absence of other factors, there's really no evidence that 1-2 standard drinks per day, combined with total abstention at least one day per week, will do you any significant harm. Alcohol is obviously far from a health tonic, but it's not insta-death-juice if you can manage to drink it in moderation.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:25
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Part of getting older is realizing that you don't really need to give a gently caress about things that "aren't good for you". Well, that's not entirely true. I quit smoking a pack a day and drinking every day because I became concerned about both the immediate and long-term effects on my health, and I think that's probably for the best. I still drink a few times per week, smoke a cigar every few days, and have the occasional cigarette. That's a much nicer balance between the possible health consequences, and the fact that I enjoy drinking and smoking.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:58
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down with slavery posted:perhaps you'd like to share what led you to the conclusion that life after 70 is "random"? Well, I can't speak for him personally, but I've seen people who've abstained from drinking and smoking die of cancer in their 40s, and just this summer I saw my friend's father die of a lung condition brought on by a 1 in 10,000 drug side effect in his mid-60s. I saw my grandfather eat like poo poo and drink in moderation for most of his life and live to his mid-80s. There's just no telling what's going to get you or when, and while it's probably best to drink in moderation, abstain from smoking, eat properly and exercise, I personally wouldn't deny myself the occasional "bad-for-me" pleasure in the hope of eking out a few extra years at the end of my life, which may or may not be spent in good physical and mental health no matter what I do. That's sort of what my friend's dad did, and he's dead now through no fault of his own.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:43
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down with slavery posted:lol it's like the senator from oklahoma that brings in the snowball and says "WHAT NOW SCIENCE?!" Yes, exactly like that...  I'm not suggesting people take their health lightly. You shouldn't drink a case of beer every night, you should maintain a healthy weight and exercise regularly, but if you want to have a glass or two of wine a few nights per week, the odds of it making your health or old age meaningfully worse is essentially nil compared to random chance.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:54
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down with slavery posted:I'm not suggesting people take their health super seriously either, I just think attributing living after 70 to "random chance" is retarded but for some reason you've decided to step in to defend it. I'm not defending his position exactly, as I've clarified in my posts. I'm just saying that, if you practice moderation in all of your vices, exercise regularly, etc., I don't think there's a massive benefit to your life expectancy -- certainly not enough to justify not doing something that you enjoy doing, at least in my opinion. You don't need to abstain from things completely to avoid using them in such quantities that they're damaging your health, unless you're a legitimate addict. There's a great middle ground to explore between complete abstention and giving into your every whim and desire.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:49
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down with slavery posted:Hmm, I wonder if certain activities could be more or less risky and maybe some things you enjoy aren't worth it? Nah, that's never a thing. "Worth it" is subjective, and, yes, moderate drinking is worth it to me. Heavy drinking was not, so I cut back, and smoking cigarettes was not, so I quit.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:58
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Baudolino posted:I drink from time to time but have decided to stay away from other drugs. It is just too much hassle finding a dealer that i can trust not to cut their goods with rat poison or whatever. You have around a 0% chance of being able to stop wanking, and this applies to all men. You should probably be able to stop looking at porn, though -- it's not necessary.
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Mar 11, 2015 21:34
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CrotchDropJeans posted:Edit: Incidentally, my ex's hardcore YOU ARE SCUM IF YOU HAVE A BEER stance has come back to bite him on the rear end, as his best friend from school is now an alcoholic (the can't-hold-a-job-because-of-drinking kind) and won't listen to him when he tries to talk to him about his problem because "God, Brendan, everyone knows you freak the gently caress out if someone has a sip of wine, your perspective is way skewed." To be totally fair to your ex, it's not his attitude that bit him on the rear end. When someone is an alcoholic (beyond just being a heavy drinker; I think too often the line is blurred between those two things) it doesn't matter what you do or say, because there is no fixing it without the alcoholic recognizing the problem and wanting to change. Your ex could drink nothing, or he could drink a case of beer every night, or any amount in between, and his friend's reaction would be exactly the same.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Also I know a lot of people with DUIs. It fucks your life up bad. I can be a poo poo driver (we all are, admit it!) sober, I don't want to even think about driving even buzzed. I don't get why driving drunk is seen, by some drinkers and non-drinkers alike, as a natural consequence of drinking, as if it's somehow unavoidable. I drink quite a bit, but I've never driven drunk. It's hardly difficult.
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