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Fried Chicken posted:F-16 has a range of 3200+ km dude. Just to expand briefly, the quoted ferry range of an aircraft is a one way trip at the most economical climb and cruise speed. "Combat radius" will often times be reported, this number will be how far from an air base the aircraft can travel to, drop weapons and return. It will be less than half the ferry range because fuel economy isn't considered. An even shorter number is the sometimes reported "high-low-high" range. This would be a mission profile where they cruise at high altitude to get close to the target then fly very low and fast to avoid radar, and return at a high altitude cruise. This range is going to be much shorter than the normal combat radius. Never mind that to avoid radar the Israeli planes would have to conduct the entire mission at nap of the earth which eats a ridiculous amount of fuel. Basically unless the U.S. is going to give Israel a B-2 or B-1 it can't happen. I guess Israel could use a conventional IRBM if they had one but no way Pakistan wouldn't go launch a nuclear one in response when they detected one coming their way.
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Chantilly Say posted:Israel's got hella SLCMs (say it: slick-ems!) that could hit without setting off the Bad poo poo Happening alarms but they won't get down far enough to hit the buried facilities. Well the conventional ones wouldn't...
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Mar 2, 2015 16:22
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Warcabbit posted:Israel has no airborne refueling capability? I'm surprised. Airborne refueling is problematic to say the least over hostile territory.
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Mar 2, 2015 16:50
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Radbot posted:Except for that whole thing where you can refuse a glass of water lawfully, whereas you may not be able to lawfully refuse sitting down in a chair and talking to police. Uh except if you cannot lawfully refuse to sit down then you've been arrested and they can take that sample anyways.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:07
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Evil Fluffy posted:If he does this I hope Obama expels him and the Israeli ambassador from the country, or the next time a vote to condemn Israel comes up in the UN Obama has the US delegate just happen to not be there to veto it. Severing diplomatic relations with Israel is not an appropriate response to this.
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Mar 3, 2015 18:50
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:The hell? Is she taking Netanyahu's side over Obama's? Netanyahu's side appears to be "Bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran" so no.
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Mar 3, 2015 19:00
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Yeah, that is surprisingly awkwardly phrased for a statement from a politician.
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Mar 3, 2015 19:06
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Rygar201 posted:Giving laptops full of classified data to Glenn Greenwald isn't whistle blowing though But giving laptops full of classified data to your mistress is only worth probation and a fine.
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Mar 3, 2015 20:01
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If Snowden isn't an idiot that honestly thought Russia was freer than the US this is just trying to get some more attention for whatever reason.
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Mar 3, 2015 20:02
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Zeroisanumber posted:It was worse than laptops, really. Petraeus provided his mistress with access to his handwritten notes that he took while in high-level meetings with the president and other senior officials. They contained things like DoD code words, the identities of secret agents, real crown jewels sorts of stuff. And yet the Obama admin has gotten people that leaked far, far less in prison for decades. Talmonis posted:Do you really think they're going to send him to a Supermax? It'd make more sense for him to be sent to a minimum security Federal prison. National security related = ADX Florence.
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Mar 3, 2015 20:07
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Venom Snake posted:If I were Snowden I wouldn't have thrown my life away for literally nothing, so there's that. He's an idiot, and if was him right now I would just flee to a banana republican and enjoy the rest of my days on a beach before the CIA inevitably takes me and hooks a car battery up to my sack. Snowden should be fine where he is unless he does something incredibly stupid. Putin needs to keep him safe-ish in relative quiet so that any spies or potential defectors they have in the US know that Russia will take care of them (even if Russia won't).
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Mar 3, 2015 20:41
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Nintendo Kid posted:No, it really didn't. Being known by the public for about 18 months to 2 years is pretty par for the course. tbf most people probably don't know what the Pentagon Papers were about at all.
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Mar 3, 2015 20:51
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chitoryu12 posted:Yeah, who cares that she revealed atrocities committed by the US government? To a first approximation? Nobody.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:01
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Talmonis posted:And that's what we should be decrying more than anything. Instead of calling for Manning's pardon, I want Petraeus and North behind bars where they belong. That's obviously never going to happen, but it's what we as a country should be demanding. Justice would be all of them in prison. Oliver North shouldn't be behind prison because the prosecution used testimony that he was offered immunity for. Or something like that, his conviction was overturned for it. The Pentagon Papers also had a prosecution related fuckup.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:29
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Venom Snake posted:He did a interview with Putin himself on Russian TV. The overall theme was that "Pshh, we don't do any of that pesky civil rights abusing stuff in Russia!" There was probably a boarding pass to the US with Snowden's name on it taped to the camera.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:38
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Fried Chicken posted:Yes, different legal definitions, punishments, and discretion, totally pedantic and not relevant in the slightest to discussing why one party walked free and the other got courts martial. The relationship started while he was a general so...
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That stuff mattered just as the rank and connections mattered. So did the timing of when Petraeus' story broke and the dissemination of what he released vs the timing of WikiLeaks and the international grandstanding it involved. Y'all want a nice neat story rather than dealing with the reality that is much murkier and more complicated.
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Amergin posted:Both parties already do it, anyway. Which is why California doesn't have an independent comission to be more fair. Oh wait.
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Mar 4, 2015 00:43
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RuanGacho posted:All districts drawn by robots, come forth robot masters, save us from the people with souls! Robots aren't a legislature, sorry no go.
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Mar 4, 2015 00:45
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Trabisnikof posted:Am I the only one seriously worried that emailgate will derail the Clinton campaign? This doesn't even register on the scale of Clinton scandals. I'd worry more about troopergate.
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Mar 4, 2015 00:53
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haveblue posted:Possibly dumb question: If Hillary didn't have a government email address at all, and claims to have only passed nonclassified information through her private email, what did she use when she did have to handle classified info? SIPRnet The existence of siprnet means that only the most mundane of emails would go through her personal account.
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Mar 4, 2015 17:38
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Trabisnikof posted:You mean the network Clinton had DoS shut down their use of: http://swampland.time.com/2010/11/29/state-pulls-the-plug-on-siprnet/ DoD's secret network is SIPRnet and was connected to state's secret network, apparently called "Net-centric diplomacy" or NCD. They severed the link between the two after Manning leaked a bunch of stuff from NCD. So the answer is more accurately NCD not SIPRnet. This is all in the linked article.
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Mar 4, 2015 17:47
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Darkman Fanpage posted:One step closer to the crippled rising up against the able bodied. Thanks a lot, DARPA. The F-35 is bad but thats just harsh.
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Mar 4, 2015 18:51
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Killer robot posted:Sounds good to me. I imagine immortality tech ought to include legal suicide methods, but I doubt they'll be popular no matter what "tortured immortal" morality fables for young audiences have to say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE
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Mar 4, 2015 20:28
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Imagine the Kochs living forever Just find the horcruxes.
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Mar 4, 2015 20:32
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Not sure if this has been posted yet, but not only did Clinton use only her personal email during her time as Secretary of State, but she ran her own email server out of her own house. I'm really concerned about this Vince Foster thing, it seems to be getting traction.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Legally, what can be done to the Ferguson P.D. if anything. It likely won't exist soon. If they comply with the justice department the city can't afford the department, if they continue the judgement against the city will bankrupt it. Wraith of J.O.I. posted:I'm kind of out of the loop—was the investigation summed up in the report done following the Michael Brown case or are they independent of each other? Like, would this poo poo never (or much later) have been uncovered were it not for the Brown killing? If so, Jesus, how many other police departments is this stuff SOP at? The report alludes to neighboring municipalities doing the same things so...
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Mar 4, 2015 22:35
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Everblight posted:Reminder that 6 cops who literally shot at black people like zombies in Dawn of the Dead won't go to jail. ...because their conviction was overturned due to misconduct by the USA? I mean unless you think the prosecutor intentionally sabotaged his career by throwing this case?
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Mar 5, 2015 00:03
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Nonsense posted:Conservatives rightly noted how close the vote was on this veto-override. They'll win on the EPA, it's bad for business, hurting it is good for business. The EPA thing is too extreme, pharmaceutical companies should be freaking out about republicans loving with patient privacy in federal research.
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Mar 5, 2015 02:11
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ReindeerF posted:Hillary surrendered so quick, I bet it's like a double-reverse-secret sock puppet account full of things that make her look good to the general voting public, heh. Just email after email praising Israel, complaining about China and Russia, admitting her love of bacon and so on. Anything else would be classified or personal so...
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Mar 5, 2015 18:06
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, I guess I'm embarrassed to admit I thought most of this poo poo happened in big cities. Big cities have real crime to deal with which puts a bit of a damper on things. The Ferguson PD existed solely for revenue collection, I bet any serious crime would be passed up to the county.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Hahahaha what the gently caress. So wheres that list of 79 so we can see if there are in fact wolves in their district?
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Gah no states listed. First guy represents Tucson, AZ though and they're trying to reintroduce wolves in that part of AZ so...
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Mar 6, 2015 17:36
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:d'awwww Well, wolves are so cute and cuddly we started adopting them 8k years ago and now have puppies.
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haveblue posted:All baby animals have the same general characteristics and distortions from their adult form. You find one baby mammal cute, you find them all cute. Obviously the endangered species act allows stuff like that to happen. The Florida Panther is critically endangered but mountain lions in other parts of the country do have population control programs in effect. (Nature's population control is for them to starve to death due to a lack of food and starving lions will happily eat humans)
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Mar 6, 2015 17:49
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Good Citizen posted:It's more about generating constant small scandals to change perceptions than it is about finding the smoking gun that takes her out of the race. No one is going to change their vote because of this email thing but 2 years worth of email-like-things may cause a conservative voter who would have stayed home otherwise to vote, or a democrat who would have voted to stay home. This would be a great strategy if only it hadn't been tried for literally a decade. A decade in the middle of which her husband was reelected in a landslide.
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Mar 7, 2015 17:26
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Fried Chicken posted:Reminder: there are more jobs in the US solar industry than there are in the U.S. coal industry. Have been for a few years now This has more to do with natural gas being cleaner and cheaper than coal. Coal is dead, tobacco is dead. That leaves Kentucky with horses and bourbon which will not support a state of 4million.
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Mar 9, 2015 15:33
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Gravel Gravy posted:more craft bourbon distillers though. Thats Indiana
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Mar 9, 2015 15:40
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Mr. Wookums posted:Rye isn't bourbon All alcohol has the same thing going on.
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Gravel Gravy posted:What do you mean by this? Seems it'd be awfully dumb for a foreign government to get involved with someone that might not be elected into office. So long as the negative of delaying the talks isn't outweighed by the potential better deal it makes sense to wait. You can probably get the same deal after the election anyways.
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Gravel Gravy posted:In the case of Iran I can't imagine they'd get a much better deal talking to a Republican candidate. Only Nixon could go to China
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