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DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Krell is the Night Zero Hero.

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DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Finger of suspicion at everyone voting Krell. If he were scum, what does he have to gain by scumclaiming? Think about it.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

imgay posted:

people don't like him cause he posted this

IMO scumclaiming is superduper town though.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Ernie. posted:

Hi Barbie
Hi Ken!
Do you wanna go for a ride?
Sure Ken!
Jump in...

The first line is clearly "Hiya Barbie".

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Alasdair Crawfish posted:

btw The Plan is you take 4 volunteers into a CIRCLE OF DEATH. you RNG pick one of them and lynch. it is a very good plan.

I volunteer.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

The Ninth Layer posted:

Oh man I'm in a circle of death with the master of WIFOM.

Your death will at least confirm you as town.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Khris Kruel posted:

Jumping on dis.

My best friend in this game is DizzyCow. In a game run by mills, we had to give someone else a medpack each night. If a person didn't get a medpack, they died. We had to use external communication like AIM to coordinate, and you were totally allowed to screw other people over.

I created a complex web of deceit and coordination between multiple pockets of survivors, but throughout the entire game, I refused to let DizzyCow to die. When Mills bumped it to 2, I let myself die in the game for DizzyCow to live. In the end, one of the members of my team won the game, being the last alive, but I never ever betrayed DizzyCow, no matter how much I was offered into other groups for it.

I love you Dizzy! I also invited him to this game. And he danced in the streets of Warhammer to the Chaos Gods to kill the last town left in the game.

Clearly the winner here.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Alasdair Crawfish posted:

well i'd vote for yuming but i volunteered for The Plan and it'd be pretty scummy to back out

someone pick a thread to use a postcount for

At 10:00pm PST we check the thread postcount, if divisible by 4 I die. if it is 1 more than divisible by four TNL dies. 2 more, dizzycow dies. 3 more, jonjoe dies. I assume we all agree

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3706001

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

winvirus posted:

also the town to nontown ratio is >30%

In most games town to non-town ratio is greater than 30%. Did you mix up town with nontown, or are you trying to say here that it's only slightly above 30%?

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Lid posted:

Hi Guys


Night Zero cop


Scum hit

##vote yuming

I'm out

Why'd you pick yuming to investigate? The general consensus is that her alignment ends up becoming pretty transparent. Why investigate her first in a game of 96? Also, why did you choose to reveal it Day 1, with the game being so large and potentially long?

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
I'm not voting yuming - she's doing her try-hard townie thing. I was feeling Diqnol as scum earlier, but his recent cavalier attitude makes him come off to me more as town ("I'm right and you're wrong in lynching me so I justified washing my hands of the current situation even though it's a bad idea for me to do so.")

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Harold Krell posted:

Hmm... This truly is a challenging game.

On the one hand, there are different specifying votes which would imply that some people may be putting their hat in the ring for unstated reasons. Likewise, there may never be such a better time to follow through on such accusations, so it would be to our benefit to understand the underlying conflict at hand. That being said, I think it would be most opportunistic to relay the information to others who couldn't be able to vote today as it would be a boon to town to find such parity among all players. The mafia won't be able to challenge a force of number so large, so they may as well vote more cynically in order to persuade non voters into giving up future votes. The fact that we have only seen a mere sliver of the voting outcome bodes well for them, so they might as well go through with this plan (if they're smart that is... :smuggo:). Anyways, I would really doubt any attempt to coerce power roles into activating said powers since it is too early to determine a false start at this point in the game. In fact, I haven't even noticed a power role despite the large amount of players involved, some coming up with any type of pretense for it would be a moot point anyways. I have to admit though, it was particularly smart for town to vote in droves rather than keep scum at bay through sheer will of conflict. Conflict will only get you so far in the mafia metagame after all, so why even bother using it in the first place? On that note, I've notice the recent conflict that occurred has all but died out as of the moment, so maybe it would be beneficial if others could inform us on their opinions about this. After all, would you want to stand out in the game if you were scum? I wouldn't think so :downs:. It's just the beginning of the game, so I really don't have all the answers to all these connections yet, but I know that because of the peculiar aspects of this game, there is an incredibly good chance that we'll be able to see a clue of scum in the very near future. I would suggest to everyone, both town and scum, to keep an eye on this "clue" as their interpretation of said clue will be able to shed more light on power roles and their resulting actions very very soon :iiam:.

Now, you may be wondering why I would endorse the scum team based on that statement, but rest assured, I am simply doting over the massive player base in order to collect as much information as possible. I know I've been wrong on this before, and most people don't trust me based on that fact, but for any other doubters out there, ask yourself this: If you were scum but knew of town power roles, would you (honest to God) withhold these interests to yourself even if the game depended on it? The point I'm trying to make is that people can be right and wrong, but what doesn't make them objectively right is hunting out for scum players only to get nipped in the bud later on. I've seen this type of play dozens of times before and guess what? It never works! :saddowns: That's the whole point of coercive voting. It's to find a driving vote divide among town and scum and using power role abilities to enhance town's weigh in the matter. The last game I saw that was actually able to achieve this successfully were able to out scum in only two days and secure the win in four. However, that isn't to say that this type of strategy is without consequence. I've seen at least a handful of people who tried to make an attempt like this, only to lynch the wrong person by day 3 and ultimately throw the game in the long run. Yeah. I get it if you think luck plays an important part in a game like this ( and it OBVIOUSLY does, if you didn't already know)., but I would say around 66.6% of the "luck" that is actually instituted in this game is based on psychological response from weaker players. To endorse their vote is to put town in ruin, which is why I suggest against such a strategy. Rather, we should all be able to handle each case based on our own experiences and be able to cast a vote that way. As long a scum doesn't know the town strategy, we should be able to thin their numbers by at least half by day 5. Barring that, I don't see a reason as to why anyone would vote against those lines even if you happened to BE scum, but that's probably getting away from the point entirely. :shrug:

Anyways, the entire point of this strategy is kind of like "live and let live", but I'm not going to force anyone to do this. In the end, it really is all up to you, the voter, to cast your decision on whether or not you think someone is scum, so as long as you consider your power role in the matter, then at least you'll be well on your way! :thumbsup:

Can you just summarize this or something? Don't take "longer is better" to heart, dude.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

They both at least have opinions and would be better to have around in the future and I'm not leaning towards either of them being scum. I have solid read on lumpen or Krell because they haven't said anything useful but in general that makes me want to lynch them.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
##vote Harold Krell

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

GulagDolls posted:

why isnt everyone voting krell voting for asiina. she has been demonstrably worse

Disagree, but asiina is unlikely to be lynched anyway. I'd be voting DHD if the decision were pure "whom do you think is scummiest?"

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

CapitalistPig posted:

Who is waar?

A pretty cool dude.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Mills posted:

Hey Dizzy :)

Hi Mills!

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Hello thread also

Atoramos posted:

For reasons I would prefer not to get into: don't try and construct the lynch around my role, and don't assume I will have this information on a daily basis. Thanks.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
I'd vote Ernie I guess but then the queue of scumclaims would drop to only like 5 and I'm starting to feel some serious trepidation that one day maybe we won't have any backlogged scumclaims.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
##vote Ernie.

Will also strongly consider last minute bandwagon.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
##unvote
##vote winvirus

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Grandicap posted:

Who wants a map tonight?

Me

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
yeah lol

Pinterest Mom posted:

Oh hey there's an anonymous vote on winvirus.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Asiina posted:

Vote Alasdair and Keane.

This post hasn't gotten enough love.

##vote alasdair

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

The Ninth Layer posted:

Just because Alasdair flipped scum doesn't mean he is scum. Use your hearts, not your heads people.

My heart was broken when Alasdair canceled The Plan.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Alasdair if you received a gun or some other similar type of gift, whom would you use it on? Metaphorically speaking.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
##vote The Science of Suck

just because

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
I don't know what you're talking about.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Me

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

HiipFire posted:

this works with me aswell actually

I think we have consensus.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
If that doesn't work though, then I'll just take a gun.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
FYI I'm shooting the next person who posts.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Correction: next person I can actually shoot who isn't me.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Poque posted:

dizzy cow wait

You posted this just in time...what?

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM

Poque posted:

You should kill either Science of Suck or Chaoslord, they each have 6 posts. SIX

Are you asking me to break my word? My word is my bond.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
My word is my bond.

##shoot CCKeane

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
##shoot Poque

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Inventor. Unjustified vote was after I became unconfirmed masons with Exakt Science where I literally just copied and pasted what he did as a pseudo-breadcrumb for later. I think someone (flatluigi?) even pointed it out specifically. Was kind of suspicious of other inventor-type folks since we've seen scum fake inventors flipped but apparently they've been destroyed.

DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Since I'm clearly getting lynched today, it's worth letting you know that I'm fairly certain Jose is the scum on the list that I'm, and you should lynch him tomorrow. ##vote Jose Valasquez

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DizzyCow
Jan 7, 2005

MASTER OF WIFOM
Also EXAKT if you're around, please come to the mason doc because I want to talk to you before I die.

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