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Apparently the occult stuff is out, which sucks because I was one of the ones that really liked the Lovecraft atmosphere and hints from the first season.
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I guess the removal of the occult stuff wouldn't prevent the over arching sense of doom that accompanies Lovecraft fiction from being used. I just don't want another straight cop show. The Cosmic Horror aspect is what made the first season stand out.
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May 10, 2015 01:34
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June 21st iircSleeveless posted:Considering that just about every aspect of the first season's supernatural stuff has been met with allegations of plagiarism I'm not surprised that he's unwilling (or unable) to return to that well again. I kid of stopped following this after the second allegation, were there more (and more specifically regarding the supernatural)?
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May 10, 2015 01:44
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If this season crashes and burns then it will cement my suspicion that Fukunaga was the brains behind the first season. That said, I hope it's good 
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May 11, 2015 01:55
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johntfs posted:The thing is that you could look at it in several ways. Sure, some deluded shitbird abducted and murdered young girls in cahoots with a bunch rich, evil guys and he was finally stopped by a couple of dedicated cops, one of whom suffered some truly weird drug flashbacks. Or the whole thing was a big Call of Cthulhu scenario in which the detectives prevented the bad guys from performing the final part of a ritual that would bring Hastur to Earth to devour us all. What was presented in the first series allows both of the above viewpoints to be valid interpretations, which is great.  , they couldn't have made it clearer that it was purposefully set up to be interpreted either way if they'd hit you with a sign with "It's Written to be Interpreted EITHER WAY" written on it, for some reason Drifter and a few others from the Season 1 thread are super against it for REASONS
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May 12, 2015 01:06
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Drifter posted:These weren't fantasy shows; keep the trolling to a minimum please. You should stick to Law & Order
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May 12, 2015 10:04
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Rad Lieutenant posted:Weird, it's almost as if it's open to multiple interpretations. Yeah, I'm fine with people seeing it either way, but to say that the other doesn't exist and is in your sad tumblr mind is pretty dumb Edit: Like, it's over-the-top obvious that it's supposed to go either way. Pizzalatte admits that Lovecraft was a major inspiration but that he wanted to walk the line, the two guys he stole material from are major contributors to Cosmic Horror fiction, and the director is now working on IT, a Cosmic Horror inspired movie. Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 11:08 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 11:02
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Newest trailers making this thing look better than I thought it would
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Jun 10, 2015 10:16
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Ghosthotel posted:I thought this was a pretty good episode and was able to follow everything pretty well. The characters seem to all be huge pieces of poo poo so far but I'm totally okay with that kind of narrative. Farrell is my favorite character so far, they did a good job with him. He shot, drank, and sniffed during that one 3 minute bar scene! Hollismason posted:I liked it, I mean it's very different but still has the weirdness with it. Crazy loving books, Eagle Masks, etc.. I mean there are at least 4 featured characters that they have to go through. I think it's good so far introducing the characters etc.. It's pretty pathetic how you took Moola's avatar, which I bought him. Why didn't you just let it disappear into the void after it served it's awesome purpose?
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Jun 22, 2015 23:37
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This episode had a Dashiell Hammett feel to it. Maybe it's the California thing, but I'm pretty sure that The Dain Curse also had a setting that was pretty similar to where the dead guy ended up. I'm A-OK with Pizzolatto ripping Dashiell Hammett instead of HP Lovecraft for this season.
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Jun 23, 2015 00:32
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Scarred Heart posted:Went in with low expectations, but I really enjoyed it overall. It is very clear that he's suffering from PTSD and something more. "That one was from before the army." They made it as clear as they could that Ray's son was the rapist's and that Ray killed him with the information Frank gave to him, and now he's forever involved with Frank who now has a murder on him.
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Jun 23, 2015 00:35
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Julio Cruz posted:e: one thing I didn't like is that motorcycle cop just happened to pull out of his skid right where that important missing guy that everyone was after was just chilling out on his bench. Having made it clear exactly how much highway there is in the region, it just seems like a totally unbelievable coincidence. The highway imagery is even better than I expected, they're really selling it as a living, breathing, creepy-as-gently caress entity that connects everything, like some sort of monster. Everyone gets touched!
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Jun 23, 2015 00:46
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linoleum floors posted:and yet he doesnt seem intoxicated at all kiimo posted:I really thought this season was going to be bad but I like the set-up and think this guy might be really talented after all. I'm hoping the scarred up waitress, the one who wears her scars on the outside, returns! 
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Jun 23, 2015 01:09
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I think it's about time we talk about  WOMEN now, here, in the True Detective 2 thread, in TV/IV.Why don't you get him out here, the missus'll never have to know...
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Jun 23, 2015 01:12
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linoleum floors posted:rachel mcadams is way too waifish to play a convincing police officer, also theyve put too much makeup on her, and she dresses incorrectly. cops dont wear skinny jeans during raids. I was using "ripping" with affection. Anyway, "Athena" and "Antigone" are some pretty loaded female character names, Pizzolatto!
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Jun 23, 2015 01:20
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Ramadu posted:So we are going full on bohemian grove eh. Seems cool.  I hope so!
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Jun 23, 2015 10:19
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For all the talk of no cults being in this season I got a very strong cult feeling from that one episode.
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Jun 23, 2015 10:30
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Seriously, one of the main characters is named Antigone (according to Wikipedia, on the show she's referred to as Ani) Rachel McAdams better be dead as poo poo in the last episode.
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Jun 23, 2015 10:43
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lake trout sub posted:The Jinx's intro/theme has, in my opinion, topped all attempts at the edgy music with dissolving transitions. agreed, The Jinx had an awesome intro, almost as good as TD season 1
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Jun 23, 2015 21:07
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Rustin Cohle. Rustin' Cohle. Rusting.
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Jun 23, 2015 22:20
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Lastgirl posted:I just rewatched episode 1 again. I was at work and since our access is controlled I decided to read some reviews for the premier. I was actually surprised to find that a lot of respectable sites had critic reviews that had character names wrong, plot points, and compared this one episode to the entire last season. One critic talked about how the mysterious killer kept a crows head in his car. How the hell he missed that it was a mask astounds me. Still not as bad as my partner's aunt who I found out watched last season and decided to talk to during a party. She didn't like the show because she thought they should solve a mystery each episode.
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Jun 24, 2015 11:01
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Zombies' Downfall posted:I never understood the conflict over season 1's Lovecraft stuff. There are obvious mythos references, and they're even there for a reason: cosmic horror is about the same kind of poo poo as True Detective, nihilism and existential loneliness. The show can use that stuff in an informed, thoughtful way without having elder gods literally exist in its universe. It doesn't have to be a choice between "the cosmic horror/weird fiction stuff is meaningless nonsense that sounded good to the writers" and "I'm disappointed that the killer wasn't Cthulhu all along". lol the people dead set against the Lovecraft interpretation of Season 1 are even weirder than the strawmen they create. WHere my Cthulu?! 
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Jun 24, 2015 23:55
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centaurtainment posted:The reason is that he spent three years undercover doing drugs that fried his brain. That's why he hallucinates the trails while driving and sees the birds in episodes two or three. The hallucinations have larger thematic meanings, but just because you're on mushrooms and perceive that the world goes around for more than 360 degrees doesn't make it the truth. That one line they gave to make things ambiguous. I think that Cole starts to see behind the curtain and at the very end sees what Childress sees, which is something that is similar to what Lovecraftian Eldar Gods look like. It would have been great if Rust's hair was completely white afterwards (Stephen King Lovecraft style) or he'd gone completely insane/ catatonic (Lovecraft style), the internet would have raged even harder. Personally I like to think of Season 1 as a perfect Southern Gothic/ Cosmic Horror mash up, but I acknowledge that it's supposed to be ambiguous.
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Jun 25, 2015 20:41
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Stupid Dick posted:Ok, I was kind of kidding about the animal heads on the wall being masks, but I just rewatched episode two and there are definitely 4 heads on the wall, with a fifth empty space that looks like one of those things in a store that you see hats or wigs on. Huh, let's look up this "Araki" title and... oh... more weird sex stuff. The city is my favorite character in this show. 70 000 people commute, 950 live there... the city is literally a monster that is killing the area with poison, and the highways are it's tentacles.
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Jun 30, 2015 01:55
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Zombies' Downfall posted:im going to keep c/ping excerpts from howl into this thread until someone acknowledges me I'm just usin' the 'Net, bud! 
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Jun 30, 2015 10:22
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syscall girl posted:Maybe he has a sad dick from too much motorcycle but he's basically Brad Pitt in The Departed. Shameful
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Jul 5, 2015 14:35
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Black Bones posted:I liked how Dixon got killed by the trap he helped spring. Antigone is probably the only one the higher ups want removed; Paul is an unknown quantity to them and Ray is still useful as far as they know. Pretty sure Dixon weakened at the end there: he wanted to wait for them to come out.
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Jul 15, 2015 13:11
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What is it about TVIV and True Detective that makes the threads some of the worst on the forum? Can we figure that mystery out?
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Jul 15, 2015 17:39
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HOT SQUATS posted:He said the same thing about the Leftovers thread. I'll admit I watched every episode of that show and discussed it even though I didn't like it, so I was part of the problem. Leftovers was a really terrible show compounded with an even worse thread lol This show is actually pretty okay and the thread is bad-funny
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Jul 16, 2015 12:43
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Instead of reading The Brothers Karamazov I ended up picking up my copy of Raymond Chandler short stories and have started reading it, thanks to this show.
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Jul 20, 2015 23:40
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Try and find The Maltese Falcon if you haven't read it. It's good poo poo. I read all of the major Chandler and Hammett books last summer, and started with Falcon. I didn't really enjoy it as much as I'd hoped I would, Spade fell short of my expectations. The Continental OP in Red Harvest was amazing, however, and everything with Marlowe in it is gold, even Playback. Pizzolotto should spend his downtime reading both those authors, then make an HBO-themed Chandler/Hammett-heavier inspired Season 3. Also, HBO's own Philip Marlowe, P.I. is a classic, if you can find it.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:53
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Professor Shark posted:I read all of the major Chandler and Hammett books last summer, and started with Falcon. I didn't really enjoy it as much as I'd hoped I would, Spade fell short of my expectations. Reading "Finger Man" by Chandler now, just found "strident" used in a sentence, maybe Pizzolotto already read Chandler as prep for this season...
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Jul 22, 2015 01:42
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Paladinus posted:Not going to add much, but Frank's 'I'm gonna put my other hand up now. DON'T YOU loving SHOOT ME, RAYMOND!' made me laugh like a maniac. This actually startled me because it was both realistic and good, imho About the episode, I kind of expected more out of the orgy. I was expecting Eyes Wide Shut x10. 
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Jul 28, 2015 01:48
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Can of Cloud posted:I'm thinking the "birdman" may actually be the tandem of the mayors son and daughter (huge leap: but while discussing the jewellery heist, the man mentioned girl and boy (wearing a mask) being only ones left). I'm seriously hoping that Burris is Birdman, as ho-hum as it would be since it seems obvious, but we never officially find out it was him, which someone mentioned would be a nice homage to Lynch's original intention in Twin Peaks. Edit: I'm also pretty down with the idea that Ray was talking to Burris in his semi conscious piss pants state Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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Jul 30, 2015 16:59
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monkeu posted:Also is the fact that rich old white guys are using their power and money for sex and doing back room deals supposed to be shocking? Yeah I was hoping for something between horrifying sexual group events where a woman is murdered while everyone laughs (this is what I thought was going to happen with the missing sister) to huge orgy surrounding some sort of large pagan god statue. That would have been hosed up and closer to Season 1
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Aug 2, 2015 21:46
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I think it was supposed to be both.
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Aug 4, 2015 01:07
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You want me to roll a joint? is one of my favorite lines of the series
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Aug 4, 2015 01:53
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Roman Reigns posted:Colin's delivery was perfect for that. Post did a great job editing out the director yelling at him that they were rolling!
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Aug 4, 2015 02:19
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There is no way the green ears thing was supposed to be paint originally. At some point I'm sure someone pointed out that wearing sound blockers while chasing your victim was dumb, so they had to change it. Or something.
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Ask Nicky Questions "HBO: Ask Showrunner Nic Pizzolatto About True Detective"
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