Bundt Cake posted:

i never knew about that. in stun gun fought smart hed win but its a crapshoot

Eat This Glob posted:

I've never trained submission grappling ever, but isn't a twister just a "pain" position and it's hard to really gently caress something up?

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Obviously, if you're in pain your body is saying "get the gently caress out of this situation," but I remember people lol'ing at Garcia getting tapped with it because of the clock/him not being in real "danger."

Triticum Guzzler posted:

serious question, are any of the subs people say are just "pain" positions actually really just pain positions because bas rutten kept saying it about the achilles lock and not only is that not true but he can't walk

Kurohashi posted:

Both Cruz and Faber threaten with mixes of striking and wrestling

Marching Powder posted:

There's no position to defend, he's 100%,objectively right and you're being an unnecessarily antagonistic dickhead who can, and I repeat gently caress off with that poo poo

Marching Powder posted:

lolling at this, then the cascading list of all the champions that would be terrible on a talkshow. how many trashcans has weidman poo poo in and would it be enough to base a personality around?

-Atom- posted:

who else is going to sing the praises of Dominick Cruz, Carlos Condit,

Marching Powder posted:

also phil in a striking sense is a much more defensively sound striker and he spent the entire time looking hurt and extremely scared.

Skip My Posts posted:

Will rumble gas if he can't blast Bader out quickly

EmmyOk posted:

I think my most goddamn moment from Rumble wasn't even the time he punched DC across the cage but when in round 3 even after being wrestlefucked he just flexed his way out of a kimura. Also DumbWhiteGuy can we please have Werdum doing Werdum face with Gaston as his picture next month? tia

Marching Powder posted:

i think it's fair to say at the least that he's 'not deficient'. but you're right in that there's no real yardstick for it.

-Atom- posted:

it's not "gimmicky" to say that Gadelha beat Joanna Champion

Triticum Guzzler posted:

I'm interested in whatever his mystery carb loading regimen is. He's just using standard WHO-ORS and thus not loving with the tonicity of the glucose component, so it's not from the fluids, and he's not concerned (or doesn't know anything about) glucose sodium cotransport. Where you at, George?

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THE PROCESS FOR REHYDRATING WITHOUT AN IV

The first step is to work out how much glycogen someone's body can hold. Once you know someone's lean muscle mass, you know roughly how much glycogen they can hold. It's usually around 13g of glycogen for every 1kg of lean muscle. If someone is particularly lean or muscular, or if they had another camp shortly before this one, it can be more like 14 or 15 gm of glycogen, because the body will adapt how much it can store based on the demands you put on it.

Once I have the amount of glycogen that person can hold I add another 20% to that number. That's how much glycogen their liver can hold. Now that I have the total amount of glycogen needed I divide that by 8, because I'm going to give them 8 meals and shakes between weigh ins and the fight.

Basically, I'll create 2-3 shakes for an individual based on how tough their cut is, and if they're bloating or not. So, we've found out this is exactly how many carbs the person needs. I want to refuel them at a ratio of 4g of carbs to 1g of protein. So, if we've got the number for how much glycogen somebody needs to reload by fight night, I find out how much carbs they're having in each meal. Now, I divide that by 4, and it will tell me the amount of protein that I'm going to need for each meal. That 4:1 ratio is going to help the body reload.

It's been found that the 4:1 ratio of carbs to protein is the ideal ratio to reload the muscles with glycogen after they've been depleted, whether that's by a weight cut or by working out. The protein, specifically BCAAs, help open up pathways in the cells which the carbohydrates use to reload the muscles with glycogen.

Another problem is that protein makes you feel really full. Normally that's a good thing, but when you have 24 hours to reload all of the carbohydrates in your system feeling full is the last thing you want. Ideally you want to get the exact amount of protein for your needs, but no more than that.

We want to keep fats to a minimum. It's a slow burning source of fuel, so it will affect the digestion process and slow everything down. If you only have 24 hours to reload, you don't want a whole lot of fat. You don't want to be chowing down on nuts and things like that.

We've got the amount of glycogen and protein the person needs for each meal. When I start creating the shakes, I use the nu-salt, and now we'll be giving a teaspoon of sea salt or regular table salt in each one of the shakes. That will give 2500 mg of sodium. You want to make sure that each one of the shakes is ice cold. I'm going to add an equal amount of the nu-salt, which is the potassium, in each shake. They're going to taste extremely salty. They're not pleasant. If somebody has a digestion problem, you spread it out even more. That right there will equal close to 1000ml iv bag. You get the chloride, the sodium and some potassium (which the iv's don't provide). Usually with an iv, I'd end up loading people on potassium.

So they've got the first shake, which is going to have about 20 gms of waxy maize. The waxy maize gets into the small intestinal tract very quickly, so it's not going to affect the digestion or the absorption of all the electrolytes, and it will also prevent bloating. Then I give them about 5 gms of BCAA. The person will take digestive enzymes with this shake.

If you chug something fast, you're going to bloat. It sits in your stomach, then your body is going to push it out, and it won't absorb everything properly. You've got to make sure there's no chugging, just normal drinking. If they start bloating, they've just got to sit back and let their body digest. From there, they go on to the next bit.

About 10-15 minutes after they're done with the first shake, I give them a Rockstar recovery. It's easy and it's convenient. It's going to give them all their B vitamins and it also has caffeine, which increases the rate that your body absorbs glycogen. From there, they go on to their next shake.

That shake will be the exact same as the first one. If they're not bloating at this time, I will give them dates. Dates are loaded with potassium, but they also have a perfect ratio of calcium and magnesium. You usually want to get a 2:1 ratio of calcium to magnesium anytime that you're reloading the body. You're getting a good ratio there with the dates, and it's also reloading the carbs nicely with the sugar that's in them.

If they're feeling good, and they're starting to get that hunger back, especially if they had a hard cut, we might kick back on the third shake for 45 minutes. Once we hit 45 minutes, they can have their first meal, and they will take digestive enzymes here again. I usually give them some green ‘superfoods' loaded with digestive enzymes. There are also pills that do the same thing, but I prefer to avoid them.

I'll generally have guys go and eat out after this, mostly for psychological reasons; I don't want them sitting in their room thinking about the fight the entire time. I take them out and they have a light hearted time and it takes their mind off of what they have to do tomorrow.

The next day I give them the same foods I would give them on a regular training day. The adrenaline is going to be up so the portion sizes are bigger, but we still keep that 4:1 ratio of carbs to protein, They'll eat every 2-3 hours.

They have their biggest meal about 5 hours before the fight, and they'll probably feel a little bit too full after that. What that meal does is kind of overload the body and makes it work to process all of the fat. That means that 5 hours later at fight time the stomach is empty but the body is full of the micro and macronutrients they need.

About 10% of your metabolism is spent breaking down food, so if the body is still breaking food down at the time of the fight your body can't put 100% of its energy into what you need for fighting. Digesting food also requires a certain amount of blood flow to the stomach, and again if that blood is going to the stomach, it's not carrying oxygen to the muscles. When you get butterflies in your stomach, that's actually your body routing blood away from it to your limbs, but it's best to not give your stomach anything to do at all during the fight.

manyak posted:

no one cares about the Hendo belfort thing tonight right?

fatherdog posted:

Hendo is going to get wobbled, nearly fall over, punch Vitor so hard his mohawk inverts, and then point to his balls. Bless.

vainman posted:

It's such garbage that Cerrone has an IV exemption. What's even the point if they just give some fighters a pass?

vainman posted:

All of Cerrone's future opponents have to come in lighter than him because he fell off a bike a couple years ago

vainman posted:

I'd think it was obvious, but he regularly rehydrates up to 175 before the fight starts

https://instagram.com/p/qfw7cGuffw/?modal=true

david carmichael posted:

i thought dutch kickboxer syndrome was when you got murdered by organized criminals

Meowbot posted:

why did rousey practically attack holm at the weigh ins? I just watched it and there is no audio but sheesh she really came off as a jackass since holm did nothing and orusey just ran at her with her fists in her face and started yelling at her

Triticum Guzzler posted:

This sucks poo poo, Mr. Glass Thiago Alves is broken again so Bendo is fighting Masvidal, which is a decent fight itself except now instead of two kooky 155 vs 170 fights there's two 155ers fighting at 170

Triticum Guzzler posted:

it will and that's exactly why you're going to see "cyborg" (ray elbe) suddenly get really vocal on social media

EmmyOk posted:

What are the best sexy Carlos fights to rewatch?

maffew buildings posted:

Check out his fight with Pat Militech and the following fight he had with Matt Hughes, they had great finishes

"I wouldn't say in the striking game she was getting the best of Ronda, you know, but I have to watch it again” is what Edmond said today.

Triticum Guzzler posted:

Timetable for module B603 - Applied Beastin'

11/16/15 - Module Introduction and Basics of Beastin'
Professor Anderson

11/23/15 - Beastin' Through the Life Cycle
Dr. Severn

11/30/15 - New Concepts in Beastin'
Dr. Eastman

12/7/15 - Space, Time, and Beastin' - Extradimensional Perspectives in Beastin'
Professor Anderson

12/14/15 - Beastin' and the East - Cross-cultural Beastin' Practices
Dr. Sapp

12/21/15 - End of Module Exam

attackmole posted:

I'm a little confused by people who think that this is a tragedy for the companies profits. Rousey cleaned out most of the division and it was getting boring hyping up random people. The rematch is gonna do huuuuge business.

Now if she loses a second time, then, yeaaaaah we're gonna have a transition period.

Bundt Cake posted:

dirty bob axe kicked one of the japanese spirit warrior guys, matsui maybe, in the back of the neck after the bell

kimbo305 posted:

Holm has always been good at keep distance aka cowardice. Jack Slack pointed out that any limitations the ring gave her were freed up in the much bigger cage.
Even if you're running the whole time, if you keep some footwork discipline and you have experience boxing, you'll know exactly when you can stop and return fire on an incoming opponent.

Holm's cross has always been pretty solid. So she keeps Rousey a step and a half outside of punching range, just luring Ronda to keep coming after her, abandoning any gameplan.
Then she fires into Ronda's poor defense, tagging her, then backing away quickly or circling to the right, outside of Ronda's jab.
This basically goads Ronda into stepping up the pressure, but without any wiles or planning for cutting Holm off, Ronda just wades or jogs forward, struggling to get inside that 1.5 step buffer Holm is maintaining.
That's the first phase:
- land the cross from range and keep encouraging Ronda to throw discipline out the window
- enter into wide punches (like the finishing cross or the elbow) or jam up attempts to close distance
- build punch combos off Ronda's lack of defense and refusal to neutralize Holm's reach advantage with kicks
Of course, hugely to Holly's credit, she also gets herself out of dangerous grappling situations to return to the striking domain.

At some point, Holm's success pushed Ronda into another level of urgency. Now she's throwing big punches and telegraphing the poo poo out of them.
All head shots, too, with elbows flared. But the biggest aid is still telegraphing. Holm has seen enough punches to have the timing and spacing down cold.
When Ronda throws a big shot, Holm has plenty of time to duck and pivot out.
The one in the second round is the culmination -- Ronda is trying to smash her hook onto Holm's guard, stunning Holm and letting Rousey get both hands on her. But Ronda's become so predictable at this point. She's coming straight in from far out, starting the hook very wide and very high. The entire volume under that arm is free. Ronda's body is moving forward, bringing that escape hole closer, and Holm knows there's no kick coming on that side -- Ronda's not a kicker and she's fully committed to trying to take her head off. So Holm ducks and pops forward off her back foot. Ronda tripping is from not having the momentum of her punch get stopped by landing on meat, throwing her upper body around and spinning off of a still planting front foot.

In a mirror stance situation, if your opponent is a headhunter and you know a kick is not following a wild lead punch, there's no safer escape than ducking and shooting to the outside of that lead punch. It's incredibly effective -- I've done it myself countless times to guys much better than me simply because they became predictable about coming in with a single heavy shot.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

Your post is pretty good overall but I don't know what you're going for here.

For those of you gloating @RondaRousey loss this weekend, keep in mind, the only one with the right to gloat is @_HOLLYHOLM and she's not...

Just my opinion. My heart is filled with pride for @_HOLLYHOLM not only for her performance but for the way she carries herself #TakeNote

manyak posted:

Yeah rousey deserved some humble pie but its funny seeing Bethe correiera or whoever start going off on her on twitter, first of all she just beat you up a couple months ago way more embarrassingly, and secondly her losing just makes you and the rest of the division seem like even more of a joke than everyone already thought so good job throwing fuel on the fire of you never getting a decent paycheque again

Beche seriously tweeted something like "Rousey tricked herself into thinking she was actually a decent striker" and its like hmm yeah probably, but keep in mind the reason she did that is because you were supposed to be a good striker and she instantly knocked you out with no effort

manyak posted:

Welp looks like rousey sucks now, im happy to boast about this to everyone even though it means that by transitive property I suck an amount previously thought impossible, going back to my job as a Zumba instructor/bryan caraways girlfriend/A-list actress now

Bluedeanie posted:

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/11/16/9747152/dana-white-ufc-is-working-on-anderson-silva-vs-vitor-belfort-2

Haha why even?

Fozzy The Bear posted:

On the Joe Rogan podcast, Dana White said they flew the best plastic surgeon in Australia to sew Ronda Rousey's lip since it was cut. I wonder who else they would do that for.