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eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Aesis posted:

Well you can't stop people review bombing f2p games, but you actually need to play the game on Steam (which involves buying if game's not free) to write review. I'm not saying people on Steam are rational, but really you'd go through all that effort (buying, installing, playing, then maybe refunding) just to review bomb a game, and get other thousands of people to do the same?

im pretty sure his line of defense thing was free when that review thing happened and with f2p you can literally just click 'play game,' start the download, and you can write a review

which is exactly what im going to do with MWO and it will be a negative review

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Ein Sexmonster
Nov 1, 2011

I'm a skin man. I wish I wasn't.

It's not like his previous, non-free-to-play games were reviewed well either. He's just finding people to blame for his own failures in game development, as he has done since BC 3000.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

im not defending derek smart

im just pointing out that community reviews about video games are stupid bullshit

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012


Eonwe posted:

im pretty sure his line of defense thing was free when that review thing happened and with f2p you can literally just click 'play game,' start the download, and you can write a review

which is exactly what im going to do with MWO and it will be a negative review
idk, I checked price history and it went from $40 initially (Sep 2014) to $10. No indication of it ever being free on Steam.

And yes I am sure there will be some rush to review bomb MWO (maybe, maybe not), but is not going to care as long as it still makes money from selling champion/hero/whatever mechs for $20~60 each.

Eonwe posted:

post other excellent games with positive steam reviews here so that i can play them
If you haven't already, play Dark Souls 1 and 2.

Eonwe posted:

im not defending derek smart

im just pointing out that community reviews about video games are stupid bullshit
Yeah I'm not defending that reviews are trustworthy or whatever, but just laughing at the fact that D_Smart is complaining about 'rampant review bombing' and Steam not doing much about it.

Aesis fucked around with this message at Dec 6, 2015 around 22:03

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007



Fun Shoe

Eonwe posted:

post other excellent games with positive steam reviews here so that i can play them

we get it buddy, you got opinions.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Aesis posted:



Yeah I'm not defending that reviews are trustworthy or whatever, but just laughing at the fact that D_Smart is complaining about 'rampant review bombing' and Steam not doing much about it.

yea i get you

Chomp8645
Sep 1, 2006

Don't ever leave me hangin' buddy!

Eonwe posted:

post other excellent games with positive steam reviews here so that i can play them

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk

Aesis posted:

Well you can't stop people review bombing f2p games, but you actually need to play the game on Steam (which involves buying if game's not free) to write review. I'm not saying people on Steam are rational, but really you'd go through all that effort (buying, installing, playing, then maybe refunding) just to review bomb a game, and get other thousands of people to do the same?

lol gently caress yes

I mean I won't but some people will. EXpect that chronojam timeline to get linked a lot.

given how niche mwo is I don't know if the numbers of rage-clotted mechgrogs are going to be sufficient to really tank its rating, but also given how bad PGI are at marketing they might not get that many new players rating it either? idk

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013

HATE FORCED VIDEO GAME HETEROSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS



Grimey Drawer

Eonwe posted:

post other excellent games with positive steam reviews here so that i can play them

Go defend the fishing pact.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Anita Dickinme posted:

Go defend the fishing pact.

are you telling me to go to another thread and get out of this one or????????

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013

HATE FORCED VIDEO GAME HETEROSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS



Grimey Drawer

Eonwe posted:

are you telling me to go to another thread and get out of this one or????????



http://store.steampowered.com/app/304030/

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy


that game is as bad as MechWarrior

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream


That description is amazing.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Still a bad game by a poo poo developer.

WebDO
Sep 24, 2009


Raged posted:

Still a bad game by a poo poo developer.

Both an excellent thread title for here and review for steam

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched.


So IS mechs aren't poo poo anymore and the game is fun again? WTF

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist.

Fun Shoe

I'm sad that the Steam release is smack dab in the middle of my exams because I want to get back into it just in time to crush hapless steam F2Pers


This game is legit even though it's a VN and most VNs are bad porn

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk

WarLocke posted:

So IS mechs aren't poo poo anymore and the game is fun again? WTF

Playing pug CW IS against mostly bad pug clan felt pretty even. I like the event structure they're using, gives you a drip feed of treats.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched.


BattleMaster posted:

This game is legit even though it's a VN and most VNs are bad porn

TO clarify the above, Long Live the Queen isn't porn at all (unless something freaky happens farther in than I got), it's actually pretty rad. You can piss off nobles and they'll poison your chocolate and then you die.

armchairyoda
Sep 17, 2008


WarLocke posted:

So IS mechs aren't poo poo anymore and the game is fun again? WTF

SRM brawlers are fun again, and IS robots aren't 'as' fragile as they were vs furry-bots. The game, and meta, are still pretty lovely... But has run their annual "hope" patch and gotten some of us to re-install.

All of the good will be patched out in 6 months and everybody will be sane again, playing legit good games like nothing Derek Smart has made or can concieve without heavy litigation.

That is your page-4 state of the game. You are welcome.

PS- Still an anime game, no excuses for LLtQ.

Wyld
Sep 2, 2015



Fun Shoe

I think I was a little too nostalgic last post. The tutorial lead me to believe it was like days of yore when I was going to go around and just be dropped into my favorite Mech. When trying to play like a subpar nerd I found you have to have MC to buy the Mech you wanted and that jpeg was 30$??? Is this the normal? I'm assuming this is SC'eque and some sort of early access. We haven't all gone mad in this world and allowed this to be the new normal have we? (totally stole that line from Obama, thanks O)

Libluini
May 18, 2012

Did I predict the future?


Grimey Drawer

Raged posted:

Still a bad game by a poo poo developer.

Yeah, but it's kind of fun just stomping around shooting at things. Waiting ten minutes for a CW-deployment could need some work, though. I guess not enough players for more?

And of course as soon as I dropped into a CW-match today, my cat jumped on my lap and demanded a comb-over (she's getting her winterfur and without regular attention, she starts vomitting fur all over the place). This of course meant I was controlling my mechs only with one hand, while someone really frustrated sounding gave me orders to move around I often had to ignore since controlling battlemechs with one hand is kind of hard.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk

Wyld posted:

I think I was a little too nostalgic last post. The tutorial lead me to believe it was like days of yore when I was going to go around and just be dropped into my favorite Mech. When trying to play like a subpar nerd I found you have to have MC to buy the Mech you wanted and that jpeg was 30$??? Is this the normal? I'm assuming this is SC'eque and some sort of early access. We haven't all gone mad in this world and allowed this to be the new normal have we? (totally stole that line from Obama, thanks O)

You can play a free trial robot; they used to be terrible (really, really terrible) stock builds, now they're okay. If you play 25 matches you'll get enough Cbills to fit out one decent robot fully, which will include all of the roots that have been out for a while, the most recent few robots are only real money (MC). You get Cbills from playing rounds, probably ~100-200k per round once you're past the first 25 matches

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH




Libluini posted:

Yeah, but it's kind of fun just stomping around shooting at things. Waiting ten minutes for a CW-deployment could need some work, though. I guess not enough players for more?

And of course as soon as I dropped into a CW-match today, my cat jumped on my lap and demanded a comb-over (she's getting her winterfur and without regular attention, she starts vomitting fur all over the place). This of course meant I was controlling my mechs only with one hand, while someone really frustrated sounding gave me orders to move around I often had to ignore since controlling battlemechs with one hand is kind of hard.

Right now during peak hours were having the opposite problem: all the possible matches on Tukkayid are running non stop. The planet is already set to the maximum the interface can handle so we can't add any more match slots.

Basically, Tukkayid is full during this event.

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013



Hey Number19, tell them to add a visual indicator near the crosshairs when you fire and get ghost heat.

Also put the external temperature on a cockpit screen.

TeeMerk
Jun 9, 2013


Brawling is back and the more drunken goons you can fit in a match the better.

It may be a "bad" game but it can be fun in spurts and its f2p.

Not sure what you expect but it can be fun.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.


The SRM6 is the best gun in the game, currently. Matches swing on who brings them to bear quickest and most efficiently.

vorebane
Feb 2, 2009


I can confirm that this game is bad and grindy.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk

various cheeses posted:

Hey Number19, tell them to add a visual indicator near the crosshairs when you fire and get ghost heat.

Also put the external temperature on a cockpit screen.

I'd go even bigger - big red text saying HEAT SPIKE.

That way you could still do it and feel badass sort of like Steppenwolf in that song

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.



vorebane posted:

I can confirm that this game is bad and grindy.

Posts like yours preserve me from giving in to the endless gnawing wrought by the heavy burden of nostalgia worrying at the back of my mind.

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009



Dusty Lens posted:

Posts like yours preserve me from giving in to the endless gnawing wrought by the heavy burden of nostalgia worrying at the back of my mind.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.



But you see when I install it the second it hits steam I'll be doing so ironically.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007



Fun Shoe

A.o.D. posted:

The SRM6 is the best gun in the game, currently. Matches swing on who brings them to bear quickest and most efficiently.

i will say it again, a timberwolf S with 4 ASRM6 and 4 spl is a loving beast

Vorenus
Jul 14, 2013


Willfrey posted:

i will say it again, a timberwolf S with 4 ASRM6 and 4 spl is a loving beast

While not as metatryhard, swapping out a ASRM and some ammo for a LBX20 is also quite fun.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015



I've got to say, from an outsider's perspective all the red meat they're throwing to the community in the last two weeks is kind of suspicious. It's either the world's best timing from a company that's never demonstrated the ability, or they held back a lot of fixes that they knew would get people hyped up until just before the Steam release.

Chomp8645
Sep 1, 2006

Don't ever leave me hangin' buddy!

Sarsapariller posted:

I've got to say, from an outsider's perspective all the red meat they're throwing to the community in the last two weeks is kind of suspicious. It's either the world's best timing from a company that's never demonstrated the ability, or they held back a lot of fixes that they knew would get people hyped up until just before the Steam release.

A far cry from the days they transitioned from beta to release simply by removing the little tag that said "beta" and absolutely nothing else.

pun pundit
Nov 11, 2008


New thread new opportunities! Have they added an option to (permanently, not from holding down a button) lock the camera to the arm aim cursor rather than to the chest aim cursor yet? I bought a founder's pack but have yet to play the game more than 2-3 days in a row. MWO and SOTS2 cured me from pre-orders.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.


Emerald Taiga is a piece of garbage map. Every time I (literally) turn around, my computer freezes for .5 to 5 seconds as it loads textures. I suppose if I had opted for 4 SLI'd titans instead of a lowly gtx 960, I wouldn't have that problem. Strangely, not only do I not have this problem on any other map, Taiga is easily the worst looking map in the game. There is just something wrong with that map from a technical standpoint.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007



Fun Shoe

pun pundit posted:

New thread new opportunities! Have they added an option to (permanently, not from holding down a button) lock the camera to the arm aim cursor rather than to the chest aim cursor yet? I bought a founder's pack but have yet to play the game more than 2-3 days in a row. MWO and SOTS2 cured me from pre-orders.

so... you want you torso locked with the legs? sounds dumb. you'd need individual keys to turn your torso and legs. thats dumb

3rd edit: i mean, there is an option as well as a bindable toggle key for locking the arms to the torso reticle, if that is what you mean

Willfrey fucked around with this message at Dec 7, 2015 around 16:56

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pun pundit
Nov 11, 2008


No I'd like the torso to follow the arm cursor at its own speed like normal but I want the camera to centre on the arm cursor rather than on the torso aim point.

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