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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Buttcoin purse posted:

Late '90s? I assume they were to play on your phone or use as ringtones, rather than listen to admiringly on a full blown PC :shrug: Or is that too early for MIDIs on phones?

I still had a pager at the point I'm talking about, but I was also bad at internet early on.

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Max Coveri
Dec 23, 2015

by Athanatos
Elwood's music was so loving good. Still is.

Star Man posted:

You can find a handful of MOD and S3M files for Mega Man fan music on the Mega Man Homepage, which itself is a relic of fandom.

http://mmhp.net/Sounds/MIDIs/

That site was my loving jam when I was 8~11.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Buttcoin purse posted:

Late '90s? I assume they were to play on your phone or use as ringtones, rather than listen to admiringly on a full blown PC :shrug: Or is that too early for MIDIs on phones?

MIDI was what Everquest used for its music before Luclin came out.

The Everquest client did not allow hardware playback unless it was a Soundblaster Live or AWE32 which allows for more sets of instruments and the difference is staggering. Now you can use other MIDI rendering engines so you dont need to use the default Windows Miles software to listen to them.

Qeynos theme using the software MIDI renderer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVUOfav_6nQ


Hardware playback of the same song. Those faded/muted brass in the background...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9FqEsPYGSc

If I can find the hardware version of the song for the city of Rivervale adds so much percussion and strings its feels great

EVIL Gibson has a new favorite as of 06:34 on May 27, 2020

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

I remember for a very short time .MP2 files were out there for download which I really liked cause my 486 at the time couldn't play .MP3s in winamp, I had to use a DOS program where you had to specify in the command line option what the sampling and bitrate was
The audio quality was equivalent to like a 64kbps mono .MP3 but it was better than the midis at least

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Iomega published a CD ripper that would convert your CDs to MP2 files so you could fit an album on a ZIP Disk.

e: although it's very possible it was a tool that would only convert WAV files to MP2.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


If you all still aren't using SoulSeek in 2020 for your music acquiring you are missing out.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



EVIL Gibson posted:

MIDI was what Everquest used for its music before Luclin came out.

The Everquest client did not allow hardware playback unless it was a Soundblaster Live or AWE32 which allows for more sets of instruments and the difference is staggering. Now you can use other MIDI rendering engines so you dont need to use the default Windows Miles software to listen to them.

Qeynos theme using the software MIDI renderer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVUOfav_6nQ


Hardware playback of the same song. Those faded/muted brass in the background...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9FqEsPYGSc

If I can find the hardware version of the song for the city of Rivervale adds so much percussion and strings its feels great

Who played EQ with the music on though?

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Booourns posted:

I remember for a very short time .MP2 files were out there for download which I really liked cause my 486 at the time couldn't play .MP3s in winamp, I had to use a DOS program where you had to specify in the command line option what the sampling and bitrate was
The audio quality was equivalent to like a 64kbps mono .MP3 but it was better than the midis at least

My roomate in college had an ancient (even by late 90's standards) mac and it could play MP3's but thats all it could do, if you backgrounded the player or tried to do anything else, or god forbid something did a big read or write in the background, the playback would grind to a halt.

Meanwhile I was over there with my 300mhz PII listening to MP3's in Windows 98 and 360 noscoping fools in CS 1.6

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

Who played EQ with the music on though?

Me?

No voice chat back then, so why not?

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

playing music would have distracted me from reading or practicing my sax while i waited for my wizard to regen mana which was about 60% of my original EQ experience

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
But without the music being on, how would you ever learn that the most useless area in the game (the island on Erud's Crossing) has the best music?

I spent hours very, very slowly levelling there once just to jam on its island vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDndGSJeH1E

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

EL BROMANCE posted:

Also if you were into electronic music, the MIDs could replicate the original pretty well. Just disable the vocal line on Robert Miles’ Children and you’re good to go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y7EEbrbRRc

I'm taking requests I guess

Yamahas XG standard could have been amazing if it had gained some more traction before games switched to prerecorded music.
It's a bit weird that MIDI hasn't changed for some odd 40 years

Also something magical happens when I play canyon.mid after playing a fancy XG midi file, it keeps all the insert effects. The main reason why MIDI sounded lovely in the olden days is that the playback was completely "dry" with no effects to speak of. Maybe a little reverb and chorus if you had a fancy sound card, but the Yamaha and Roland modules can do a ton more effects like distortion, delay loops, filter sweeps and so on. It makes a massive difference!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OHtddIMj4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEakwWr2plw

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



I listened to music but not the in game stuff. Now I want to hear the audio for Tower of Frozen Shadow which was probably my favorite zone despite nobody ever going there.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




More like THICCSport

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Humphreys posted:

If you all still aren't using SoulSeek in 2020 for your music acquiring you are missing out.

It's incredibly good. Purestrain 2002: not pretty, but super functional.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Instead I hosed around endlessly on mixman which somehow still exists I guess? https://www.mixman.com

I also had the Mixman DM2 controller, which owned for its time and also somehow is still sold on amazon dm2 Digital Music Mixer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002GCFDFM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_p7vZEbJN4FCZM

Who is still biting DM2’s in tyool 2020? I swear mine is from the late 90’s

I bought one for a couple dollars at a thrift store, but the drivers and software only work up to Windows XP. So, being a hoarder collector of fine obsolete computer parts, I slammed together a bitchin’ GAMING COMPUTER circa 2007-ish with Athlon 64x2 and SLI 8800GT’s. Still haven’t messed around with the DM2, but I will one of these days, it’s hooked up and working.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

JnnyThndrs posted:

I bought one for a couple dollars at a thrift store, but the drivers and software only work up to Windows XP. So, being a hoarder collector of fine obsolete computer parts, I slammed together a bitchin’ GAMING COMPUTER circa 2007-ish with Athlon 64x2 and SLI 8800GT’s. Still haven’t messed around with the DM2, but I will one of these days, it’s hooked up and working.

You could presumably pass it through to a WinXP VM in VMWare right?

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Code Jockey posted:

You could presumably pass it through to a WinXP VM in VMWare right?

I thought of doing exactly that, but I’ve had screwy issues with sound devices + VM’s + USB passthrough in the past, so I just went ahead and used it as an excuse to build a pseudo-retro machine. I’ve been meaning to do it for awhile.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Pham Nuwen posted:

It's incredibly good. Purestrain 2002: not pretty, but super functional.

I learnt about it pretty much in 2002 from my Audio Engineering lecturer back in university. And til this day I can find things I cannot find anywhere else. Strangely not a single torrent site had a specific Fear Factory album even til this year and I kinda didn't want to crack the factory seal on my digipak so for years never heard it. 10 seconds after remembering about Soulseek I got to listen to it hah!

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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r u ready to WALK posted:

Yamahas XG standard could have been amazing if it had gained some more traction before games switched to prerecorded music.
It's a bit weird that MIDI hasn't changed for some odd 40 years

I remember the PC version of Final Fantasy VII came with a Yamaha XG software synthesizer because its ported MIDI music used the standard. It came with two varieties. One of them sounded good, though not great, and would drop like half of the instruments when initializing a track so the first note for a number of instruments will just be silent until they're triggered to play another note. Can be easily ignored for the most part, but it was really grating for music that start with several long notes such as:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvHTlWyxH0

The second variety sounded loving mind-blowing, but either because of my lovely computer or because it was a soft synth (probably both) there was a delay to starting music tracks. Not a problem for casual listening, but the three-second long silence between changing music tracks in a game was really annoying.

I do remember enjoying the demo tracks that came with the synth though. One of them had what sounded like samples of high heel footsteps and a door opening and shutting. Playing those with general MIDI just sounded like a dog walking on a piano.

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

Humphreys posted:

If you all still aren't using SoulSeek in 2020 for your music acquiring you are missing out.

I've been scoffed at by the few people I know IRL that are really into music like I am, every single time I mention that I still use SoulSeek. "That still exists? Why are you still using it?"

but it is my most reliable source when I want to get some obscure track or album. The stuff that isn't on any streaming service, and you can't even find a torrent for.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

WITCHCRAFT posted:

I've been scoffed at by the few people I know IRL that are really into music like I am, every single time I mention that I still use SoulSeek. "That still exists? Why are you still using it?"

but it is my most reliable source when I want to get some obscure track or album. The stuff that isn't on any streaming service, and you can't even find a torrent for.

Yep, same here. It's amazing for niche stuff.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


WITCHCRAFT posted:

I've been scoffed at by the few people I know IRL that are really into music like I am, every single time I mention that I still use SoulSeek. "That still exists? Why are you still using it?"

but it is my most reliable source when I want to get some obscure track or album. The stuff that isn't on any streaming service, and you can't even find a torrent for.

I even ran a Music/Movie trivia night in one of the chat rooms.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



I try to not recommend soulseek to people bc I don't want it to blow up but like... yeah, it's insanely good and I'm astonished it still exists in 2020. Used it briefly in the late 00s, didn't really click for some reason, rediscovered it in ~2015, and ever since then I haven't once had to go digging around for torrents or mediafire links or whatever.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Pretty good posted:

I try to not recommend soulseek to people bc I don't want it to blow up but like... yeah, it's insanely good and I'm astonished it still exists in 2020. Used it briefly in the late 00s, didn't really click for some reason, rediscovered it in ~2015, and ever since then I haven't once had to go digging around for torrents or mediafire links or whatever.

Lol, I don't think you getting more people on soulseek would hurt soulseek. I only used it for a few years around 2003, it was really rad, met some really cool people from europe, got a few shout outs on their DJ livestreams, really was a magical time for me online then.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Yeah I don't think we'll be seeing many more music sharing crackdowns in the era of Spotify. The only thing music labels care about policing now is Youtube.

I bet if what.cd had made it a couple more years, it would still be up today.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I agree. I think they were afraid that most people would just download music, but now most people just pay for spotify or listen to ads. Pirating music is more niche now that there are legal ways to easily consume media.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

wa27 posted:

Yeah I don't think we'll be seeing many more music sharing crackdowns in the era of Spotify. The only thing music labels care about policing now is Youtube.

I bet if what.cd had made it a couple more years, it would still be up today.

It still is up, just under a new name iirc? Still invite only with tons of dumb hoops.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

ishikabibble posted:

It still is up, just under a new name iirc? Still invite only with tons of dumb hoops.

Oh, I guess I should have assumed that. My music piracy days are long over, so I never bothered to find a successor (again, Spotify).

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

All it would take is one litigious enough record company, surely?

Everyone slept in emuparadise for ages and then suddenly Nintendo went full SWAT on it a couple of years ago.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Mak0rz posted:

All it would take is one litigious enough record company, surely?

Everyone slept in emuparadise for ages and then suddenly Nintendo went full SWAT on it a couple of years ago.

BTW Emuparadise is still operational with a browser plugin. All the downloads are still there, just hidden behind the extension.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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ishikabibble posted:

It still is up, just under a new name iirc? Still invite only with tons of dumb hoops.

Different people I believe, but yes a successor in the same way what.cd succeeded oink when they got busted.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


GutBomb posted:

BTW Emuparadise is still operational with a browser plugin. All the downloads are still there, just hidden behind the extension.

Someone might consider this :filez: but thank you anyway for pointing this out!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


barbecue at the folks posted:

Someone might consider this :filez: but thank you anyway for pointing this out!

In a thread where the current topic is the best music piracy service out

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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barbecue at the folks posted:

Someone might consider this :filez: but thank you anyway for pointing this out!

Riot rules now applicable in this thread, loot from big 90s videogame.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
I'm gonna loot whatever it takes to run crysis

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

LifeSunDeath posted:

I'm gonna loot whatever it takes to run crysis

Can you even get an 8800 GTX anymore?

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Humphreys posted:

In a thread where the current topic is the best music piracy service out

Spotify!

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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


This explained something I have always wondered about but never enough to actually go and figure out what the hell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BktIY7VbrUs

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