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Kashuno posted:I don't ever look like a good townie anyway. Except to me for whatever reason. Probably just means I like you. I tend to just trust people I like. I know I know. I'm awful at this game.
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Gwynplaine posted:It's day one and all I can think about is battle. Brother? Gwynplaine posted:Doesn't matter if our leader thinks I'm scum anyways. You're neither nor. You've just chained a vote for no real reason than other what I can assume is a history with birdstrike, and your eager to actually kill discussion on D1 or either rendering moot by proposing a non-execution. bowmore posted:nah because your probably scum and you are too hard to read because you post scummy all the time That's a bad reason. tithin posted:GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD EVENING DARLINGS AND GENTLE-DARLINGS If it's because of his post voting Ridonkulous I get where your coming from. It's weird he wants a 2nd opinion on a D1 vote, most of which are based on gut or dumb reasons at best. I'd get it if he had more of a case or if the game were further along and he didn't want to toss his vote with abandon, but here there's very little to be lost voting out right. EccoRaven posted:Arrentish males are considered too irrational and unemotional, and have few civil and economic rights. Military enlistment is one of their sole paths for citizenship, though many in the Empire wish to change that status quo. How is one considered to be irrationally stoic?
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Murmur Twin posted:Yeah, it's a meta case based on a small sample size, but so far it's my strongest read. My sample size with TMM is just one game, but this isn't altogether unreasonable. TMMadman posted:I don't know if MMT is scum, but I think she is using some faulty reasoning to vote me. I'd optimistically rather hope you've learned to mellow out a bit than be scum so this is good enough for me for now.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:06
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BabeLiker90 posted:So anyway guys, I'm the Town Catapultist. I can pick one of you and fling you at the other camp, killing both people involved. I have to do it day 1 (clearly a thinning of the herd tactic by Ecco) so let me know who you're interested in me targeting. I saw you mentioned this earlier. I'd opt for myself only because I know that while I'm a good soldier (bruiser in battle that can take a fair share of hits) I know that I'm otherwise not all that useful to the mafia meta game (let's say vanilla) and I'd rather give up a known quantity like that than risk losing someone that could be more useful. I haven't looked at the other thread at all though (and won't) and while merk is a 'good' option I hate that he has to always be forced to die early because of his fame and would rather just go with your own judgement or Max's.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:08
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Doktor Per posted:^^^^ ##vote doktor per You could just post better? Forgoing your pointless joke vote? This was a garbage post and it shouldn't just be passed over in the crowded field of posts we've had since the game started.
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Max posted:This was in response to 100yrs. Like I said, I'm essentially vanilla, discounting my battle role, and unless we know who the scum is for sure I feel it's a bit of a crapshoot, and rather than risk shooting someone of actual importance better to go with a null choice in my opinion. It's especially due to the nature of the vig, it's not just killing someone in our game but rather an assault on there's, so that's the trade-off I see for it. If he was just weeding out only our thread then I think the circumstances are different since we need our town to stay alive, but here it's a 1:1 tradeoff so better send vanilla than risking a power role that we can still make use of.
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Doktor Per posted:ugh, i asked to be in the cool people thread. This came before that weird joke vote post of his. What's up with the good Doktor?
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Max posted:Which vote that has been made thus far bothers you the most? Why? Doktor's vote on diqnol is bad given his following comments I've quoted the vote and his following comments earlier. Following that we've said all there is to be said about Gwyn's bad diqnol vote too and I have nothing particularly against Gamer's vote on ridonkculous (that is to say it's sound enough) but it's presentation is awful. Max posted:Which vote do you agree with the most thus far? Why? I'm curious about diqnol's current opinions on his vote on podima only because I'm getting a town vibe from diqnol and that vote garnered him enough heat to rank him the vote leader at this point. I agree with it enough to see why he'd say that of podima, though the game is early. Following that I find Murmur's case on Madman entirely reasonable in context of the very little I know about madman but I don't personally support voting Madman at least at this point in the game.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:28
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BabeLiker90 posted:Why is Gwyn's vote bad but not Birdstrike's? Birdstrike posted:gently caress it, the Ixt defence was weird as well Max was just asking what votes we found to be the worst. Since birdstrike seems to have an actual reason it doesn't fall into the worst category for me unlike Doktor's inexplicable vote and Gwyn's auspol friendship vote.
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Kashuno posted:Is there like some running joke where my vote on ridonk doesn't loving count or something There is and we're having a ball!  Birdstrike posted:Pod's post may be those things, but I didn't think it was scummy. It offered a convenient way for Diqnol to try and appear townie. I don't think so. The only real weakness is that it relies on the super few posts we have from Podima but it's a fair observation to point out.
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Podima posted:Doing a reread and this jumped out at me: True or not it seems overpowered for scum to have. So maybe that's why? TMMadman posted:To me, it was plainly obvious what you were trying to do, so why should I bother to engage with it? He says and then follows up with  Shine on Madman, shine on!  BabeLiker90 posted:I want everyone to read this paragraph and tell me if the conclusions he draws are logically consistent or not Madman's mind it may very well be. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt D1 if only because he is such an easy target to harp on and I know that I can have incredibly particular train of thoughts all to myself at times that no one else gets. It's not that unusual.
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VivaNova posted:Real question: 100 years, would you also volunteer to be the D1 lynch? No I wouldn't. Like I said there's a definite gain to the catapult in that we hit one of their guys making it a worthwhile sacrifice. I thought I explained this? 100YrsofAttitude posted:Like I said, I'm essentially vanilla, discounting my battle role, and unless we know who the scum is for sure I feel it's a bit of a crapshoot, and rather than risk shooting someone of actual importance better to go with a null choice in my opinion. It's especially due to the nature of the vig, it's not just killing someone in our game but rather an assault on there's, so that's the trade-off I see for it. If he was just weeding out only our thread then I think the circumstances are different since we need our town to stay alive, but here it's a 1:1 tradeoff so better send vanilla than risking a power role that we can still make use of. The other option I use here is a vig but you could apply it just as easily to an execution.
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Jan 9, 2016 09:50
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Doktor Per posted:Gonna just work my way through the thread in a chronological order. I don't immediately like this but I don't have the time to revisit it right now. I've got work. I may check in tonight briefly but otherwise you'll have to wait for Sunday night. Good weekend to all.
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TMMadman posted:Oh look, another content free vote. I just love being a policy vote. Yeah you're absolutely right. Diqnol and Ras have enough "reason" to go through with it, but Exact's vote is by far the weakest of the current 3. EXAKT Science posted:Thought I had done this already, but vote finder says I haven't ##vote TMM You've thrown shade at Tomm, Gamer, Ridonk, and TMM, but why is it madman that sticks out to your in particular. Your post-history feels like sideline commentary and you seem to pick up on the popular scum-posts of the thread without adding any more to them, gives you the semblance of being around, but really doesn't seem like you have. Out of all the momentum on Madman this is by far the most "and me!" TMMadman posted:This post is awful and I think it makes Rarity look like she doesn't actually believe in her current vote for Dominoes. True.
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Rarity posted:Gamer is officially off my scum list, I think that's the most effort I've ever seen him put into a post. I'm not so sure. It came so after the fact, what is it that we say "the tail leading the horse?" I'm not even sure if that applies, but it's not good form to lay a vote, and then make your case after you're called out on it. Gamerofthegame posted:for ease of use whenever needed, have other thread war chat Thanks Gamer. Birdstrike posted:that's the dianond dog spirit Seriously I keep thinking you're referencing David Bowie and it makes me a little sad when I realize you're not.
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TMMadman posted:Here's why: In a game where HP matters and the scum NK is a 5HP attack, why would you be able to not only instantly kill someone from this thread, but also someone in the other thread? I Culling the large playing field is a perfectly reasonable explanation. King Burgundy posted:But it could be the worst of both worlds. If you are town and you sacrifice yourself and the person we hit over there is one of our infiltrators, then we have lost in both threads. At BEST it's a 1:1 tradeoff. This is true. My position is about us avoiding useful town roles. If I'm being overly cautious it's because in my last game I led to the mis-execution of the cop and ended up forcing the doctor to reveal himself. VivaNova posted:ahhhhh I'm gonna resist the urge to get into a debate about this sentiment! I see how you're reading gamer's post but I just don't see it like that. I agree with tithin that if you vote you should reason why.
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Doktor Per posted:Gonna just work my way through the thread in a chronological order. I think the issue I have with this post is that it seems to say a lot and says nothing at all. The few interactions with the game itself is Doktor covering for himself and himself only and then some white noise about the battles. He still hasn't actually participated in the game. Gamerofthegame posted:Might still be relevant. Didn't catch that earlier. That definitely earns him enough leeway and his last couple of posts showed a lot more effort. ##unvote
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bowmore posted:I'm following but I don't post much on weekends because being on your phone all the time is anti social Totally get you. Enjoy yourself.
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TMMadman posted:So what's the point? Given that there is someone in their thread claiming they have and used a vig skill on D1 (that may or may not kill someone depending on their HP), do you really think that there would possibly be 3 deaths on D1, plus the lynch kill? And then any possible deaths from the battle? I'm no good at game setup talk and I don't really want to game the mod, but as far as I'm concerned anything is pretty valid. It could in all honesty just be a player activated anti-lurker mechanism, which is how a lot of people are proposing it should be used. Also, in these soldier games a lot of poo poo can happen including unexpected deaths. It can just as easily be true as it can be false, and the game's far more interesting if it's true. EXAKT Science posted:Diqnol if you can instantly kill someone in the other thread's then you should kill Quandary so we win You know very well that he can't.
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Murmur Twin posted:I agree that it was a misread and not a frame-job. It is kind of a big mistake to make. What's weird is that he knows who Babeliker/diqnol is, talks about him early on and the moves onto TMM. He's thought Madman could launch people this whole time, and it's kinda clear that that isn't the case. What's worse his scum feelings towards Madman are based on this error. The question here is do they apply to diqnol as well or do he cease to think that this a good train of thought to carry through. Rarity posted:My take on Ridonk is that he's not very good at the subtleties of mafia but he is at least trying in earnest and thus town. There's forgiving and then there's just turning a blind eye. Murmur Twin posted:I stand by the fact that town doesn't just forget stuff like that because they're forming opinions on people as they go. Scum is more likely to screw something like that up since their opinions are fabrications. Not only that it's like he got the game second hand from someone else.
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EXAKT Science posted:I don't know that at all, 100yrs. Also, there is a distinct chance that I was being tongue in cheek I may be confusing you with someone else, but I don't remember you ever being so irreverent. That plus ridonk's whole error made me a bit wary of the whole joke thing.
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TMMadman posted:Also, don't you think that a town player would be way more worried about being lynched than a scum player who has several teammates who almost certainly wouldn't vote a scum buddy out on D1? Uh, yeah no this doesn't make any sense. TMMadman posted:I like my Exakt vote right now, but I think Rarity just jumped in line over Rascyc right now. Those are my three picks for scum today. Her build-up to you is very suspicious. I'm going to do my long promised re-read and I'm going to lay down a vote afterwards. Looks like I got a couple of hours to kill. Rarity posted:Are you saying there is no change in tone between these? I've only one game with Madman, but it seems to me that's just how the kid is.
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TMMadman posted:As town, I am always worried about being lynched because I am alone and I know that lynching me is wrong. As scum, I do not fear the lynch because I have scum teammates to protect me for the most part. You don't need your scum mates not voting to not get killed, and often times they will if you're a foregone conclusion. I get where your coming from but (like so many things) you shouldn't be so binary about it.
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Doktor Per posted:Is babeliker some sort of a scum smokebomb? How do you mean? Rascyc posted:Is this a real thing? I've never played with the person. As I've said, I've only one game with him where he's town, and the man is a bull with blinder's on in a china shop.
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Birdstrike posted:I have a convoluted theory about Diqnol. His vote on Pod is almost too easy. Was your convoluted theory what you posted just afterwards? Because it's not that convoluted and a contextually reasonable read: Birdstrike posted:This post from Podima ---- I feel like you're bored with this long day and are just goofing off to pass the time. That's the only reason I can see why you're actually voting vivanova.
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I've had issue with Doktor earlier in the game for bad posting and a bad vote, but I'm willing to hand-wave that aside in light of painkillers and since it seems she's a fairly new if not completely new player.Doktor Per posted:I'm a wimpy little ranged dude. I am about as good in a fistfight as helen keller. I have very limited out of battle usage, despite my ~*charismatic personality*~ This post did make me realize how being charismatic could be doubly useful for scum player given their double vote. I wouldn't use it to build a case against Doktor. Just reminded me of that perk that charisma gives a player. Doktor Per posted:I would love for Catapult Chic to be more present, but having been homeless and struggling to get internet I would personally err on the more sympathetic side of regaining internet. For today. But it's not looking too hot. Also, I wanted to check for my impression of people. I feel that it's improper with only two posts, one of which is "I just got net again." Another thing is that after Doktor's big last self-conscious post, which I did find pretty scummy, there's been a spate of better more off-the-cuff posts that makes feel like she's more likely new town. This is one of such comments.
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Dominoes posted:Go on: do you think it's scummy, pointless, or something else? This is some piss-poor prompting. Not that exakt took him up on it. Actually you do this a couple of times. Dominoes posted:Courtesy. It was information-drawing, and I hadn't made up my mind. It can't be both. You do it out of courtesy because you feel obliged to despite having made up your mind, or you haven't made up your mind and you need it done making it a non-courtesy issue. Dominoes posted:I think Rasc is likely scum. I'll lay a vote down once I've decided he's still the most likely, compared to a few others. He''s consistently posted commentary on not-so-relevant things. Said the kettle to the pot. Dominoes reads to me a bit as wild card, and that is the only town like thing about them I can think of. There's no one quite like him at this point in the game and he doesn't seem tied to anyone at all. Otherwise his posts are fairly scummy since he votes and tries to get things on people but doesn't do any work for it and just assumes we're to understand what he thinks is right.
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Doktor Per posted:"Guys, I'm a catapult, whom should I shoot? I can only do it day one so please be quick." At the most innocent level I figure he put it out there to generate discussion to then work with later. The most damning eventuality is if he did it do some role-fishing or kinda see why way the thread was going to later more easily put a vote without need to explain himself. What're your bad reasons for him having done it? Also Charisma is not a thing in mafia but it is in this Game. Again I was just reminded it was a thing by your post and that it could grant a Once Per Game anonymous double-vote even to scum, which is seriously very useful if they save it till the end game.
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Gamerofthegame posted:same. However, this is to Kashuno, who is voting for Rid! With me! And this was brought up by them in the past, which means they're not really paying attention to the thread and just coasting through. Not hunting scum, certainly. This is pretty relevant given Ridonk's Rick Perry moment earlier. Out of all of Gamer's after-the-fact case this is the most salient point I feel. The fact that Gamer is tunneled on Ridonk isn't really a important until he tries to move his vote elsewhere (especially a vote leader) because he hasn't really seemed to focus on anyone at all and it wouldn't strike me as particularly sincere.
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Doktor Per posted:The more you know. You may want to read the rules again if you can because charisma is not what makes a frontline fighter that'd mainly be Might and probably Stamina. If I knew about Charisma is because I read the rules. Doktor Per posted:Anyway, it's getting down to the wire, been on a date most of the night, and will probably go to sleep in the next few hours. Going to read over the top Lynchtenders before I sleep, and throw my vote on the one I feel the worst about. I don't really like that that's how you're going about it. You should try to look over all the players, or at least the ones you feel bad towards and then make your case, try to convince people you're right, and if things really aren't going your way make your mind up about the vote leaders as a last resort to avoid the no-execution. Just following the crowd is incredibly scummy since it relieves you of any real work and makes it feel like you don't really care who dies as long as their not a scum mate. You are new right, because I don't know how long I want to just overlook you.
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Kashuno posted:I unironically out of spite started to go down the list of players and comment on each one before I decided to say gently caress it and write this post. This mini-meltdown feels very genuine from kash. I have trouble reading kash at times since there's so much to go through and his opinions seem to take several short and spread out posts to come together. But seems good enough to me for now.
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Ridonkulous posted:posts like this are helpful, so I think your intentions are just misplaced and not scummy. What? No it's not. A lot has been said about ridonk but I think the most glaring issue is that he's not really reading the thread because he's got a lot of easily check facts wrong. I don't see them as accidents since it has happened more than once it definitely gives me the impression that his information is coming both rushed and second-hand.
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My long-promised re-read of our players and my thoughts. I've been posting some up through to now and this is the last bunch. O where o where has our little Cpiggy gone? Like Chic he's been lurking, but that probably just makes him town I suppose. I hope tithin comes back. Can Ecco maybe see to this somehow? His avatar issue seems to have stabilized and it's not that big of deal for me not to want him to continue being present. Diqnol's absence this weekend makes it harder to get a grasp on him. Considering Rarity's build-up to a Madman vote, it becomes easier to see diqnol doing the same, but he was the first and it seems a bit better presented and thought out. I don't think his catapult generated as much content as he'd of liked, but it certainly can be seen as role-fishing in a way. To me at least, I volunteered so that power roles would not have risk themselves, so inversely people who fought tooth and nail could be read as people of interest, though it is simpler to just think they don't want to die. Not much can be said about Bowmore, was that ever the case? Exakt I've brought up before, and while he's made a tad more effort as of late there's not really much substance in any of it. Why do I remember Exakt playing differently? Maybe he hasn't the time? I don't know but I don't find him very town at all. Gwyne is clearly around but has mainly posted about being a wall the enemy won't be able to break down. It's a different kinda of nothing that we see from birdstrike. I would like it if we could get more reads. Gwyne just take like 3-5 of the other players and read their post histories, no one's is longer than 2 pages it seems to me and make some sort of opinion. Ixt's got two reads but no votes. He's been catty about being called out about posting frivolously but hasn't made any effort to improve on that or otherwise. Ras reminds me of his last town game that we were in together ages ago. His style is not dissimilar to Dominoes but seems more pointed and less meandering. I've got nothing bad to say about him. People I don't mention I have a null read maybe town read on. If I mentioned but haven't said much it's because your null leaning scum for no real reason other than gut (see: bowmore).
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Fiery is one of the players I'm really feeling town on and I find myself agreeing with her a lot. I have the same feelings about Murmur, I really like her case on rarity. I would vote Rarity, Dominoes, and Exakt today with the latter two being interchangeable in desirability. I really like the cases that have been made against Rarity but I will admit I have yet to make an in-depth read of her 3 page post history so I won't vote until I have and can see things with my own eyes.
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Ixtlilton posted:I don't think we should murder rarity today. Call it sentimental, but nah. So if you don't want to call it sentimental, what do you want to call it?
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