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Eggnogium posted:

Anyone found a screwdriver in Landslide yet? My least favorite part of a new level is the tedious tool hunt until hitmanmaps.com gets updated.

Crew area to the left of the stage.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 06:30

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 12:13

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where the red fern gropes posted:

poo poo, emetic syringe detected during frisk

Can't have junkies running around all over the place.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 06:39

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Jack Trades posted:

I wonder if they are going to continue releasing content for S1 maps after S2 begins. Because if they're not going to use S1 maps then you could just uninstall episodes 2-6 through steam.
Otherwise Hitman Season 2 is going to be absolutely massive.

I was thinking they'd at least spread ETs around later S1 maps, but that would mean that the theoretical person who buys S2 but doesn't have S1 would be losing out on ETs, making S2 (seemingly) a worse deal.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 09:03

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Big fan of how professional brings back some of that feeling of exploration and not having a clue how you're going to tackle a problem. Security hasn't even felt especially gamey so far, Kruger's little spot excluded, though I can understand that from a gameplay perspective. Sorta surprising that the helicopter is still an easy escape route while the speedboat in Bangkok is hidden behind a limited access zone and needs a key.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 19:03

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Mondian posted:

You can't get at Kruger at his phonecall spot anymore, but you can catch him before he turns into that area and easily lure him down to the speedboat landing with some typical bumping/coin shenanigans.

Look man, just let me beat up that gaggle of guards.

_{Thanks. That's precisely what I mean, professional forces you to rethink your strategy - even if you might, like me, stubbornly stick to a plan that's clearly not optimal.}

# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 19:44

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That opportunity is a really easy way to do a SASO run. You don't even have to sneak into the graveyard, since it doesn't become a restricted zone until just before the target arrives.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 13:41

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double nine posted:

I did notice in the paris map that the cameras on the first floor around the fashion show have a green indicator on the floor so you can somewhat see their LOS. I've tried but been completely unable to see that effect on any other camera. Am I blind or is it simply disabled elsewhere?

I think someone mentioned it's always there, in which case it's only really noticeable in Paris because the area in question is quite dark.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 15:08

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WindyMan posted:

Speaking of that, I just wonder�if House Built on Sand was the main story mission (the first one you got to play) and Gilded Cage was added some months later as a bonus mission, would opinions of the map change at all?

Assuming a slightly more expansive mission, in terms of opportunities and NPC behavior, probably. I'm thinking a mission where both targets eventually converge on the caf� rather than one just being inside and the other walking around outside, which would activate more of the map and put the focus on the central part of the map rather than two outlying areas.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 06:45

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Jack Trades posted:

Yeah, I wish Hitman has MGSV's Phantom Cigar.

For Marakkesh:

# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 08:39

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double nine posted:

marrakesh pro sosa isn't very fun atm. Will have to try again later but it's really difficult

Yeah, professional to me kinda strengthens the character of each level, which is a problem for one where its character is mostly "annoying".

where the red fern gropes posted:

i keep thinking about how great a properly-made hitman tv series would be

the movies have been awful because hey movie you need a plot, but a tv series could just be 20 minutes of silently planning a kill, or following a random character around while playing "where's waldo? oh he's unconscious in the bathroom and someone took his clothes"

I'm not sure it would really work, losing the interactivity. Maybe as a sort of dramedy sketch show going all-in on the absurdity of Barcode Man assassinating a high powered CEO with a fire extinguisher and everyone just calling it an unfortunate accident. No winking at the audience either, the entire thing should be presented like it was some serious prestige drama.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 15:04

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Mondian posted:

Also explosions solve a lot of problems.

True. Doing an In Seine run for full mastery of Pro Paris, I noticed that three of the guards patrolling the patio area are enforcers, so I just threw a C4 block at each group to clear the area out, rather than attempt to cleanly get rid of them. Pro has really encouraged me to use more of more arsenal, even if it means sometimes playing 47 as a hitman who has just gotten bored with regular and safe stealth assassinations and has begun to cut corners.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 19:12

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Jay Rust posted:

Every Professional challenge requires the completion of the mission, so that's what's wearing me down a little.

The way I did Sapienza (and to an even greater degree Paris), was to plan for two/four different assassination challenges per run(depending if its a double kill challenge) then save when I was set up properly for both. Like setting up the firework fall challenge, completing, and then reloading and quickly garroting both. Paris in particular is really well suited for that approach.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 06:44

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Jay Rust posted:

That is pretty smart. But it still requires you to escape twice, which is specifically what I don't enjoy doing...

It's my fault, probably, because I generally prefer slowly walking around like I'm roleplaying as The Smooth and Confident Hitman instead of running everywhere

47 is the ultimate smooth and confident hitman, and as the reveal trailer showed, a big fan of running. Embrace it.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 13:54

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Hitman takes place in a world where forensic optography works.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 16:21

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Mondian posted:

Anyone know where the intern is on Pro? I

He walks down the street past the caf� toward the "fortune teller shop" early on after you start the mission, then around the alleys around the caf�, until he finally manages to find the consulate.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 17:53

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John Charity Spring posted:

I don't think so - the implication is that he's in the locked-up mansion, and that the mission is taking place pretty much immediately after he killed his mother. You can overhear a conversation in the back streets about how it's unlike Signora Caruso not to be seen for this long, etc.

Caruso actually killed her because she said Abiatti was dreamy.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 18:22

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Eggnogium posted:

Well I completed it but bungled SA in multiple ways. Is there any way to get SA without the breaching charge on this one? Seems impossible to open the safe with the key without arousing suspicion.

I bungled SA too, because some jerk decided to check up on the warlord while I was dragging her away. Managed to subdue him and his pal though, and my retrieval of the safe's contents went perfectly. Just blew up a fire extinguisher in the hallway behind the safe, which caused most of the people in the room to clear out, most importantly the two soldiers who could see through my soldier disguise, then went and grabbed the files.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 20:18

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double nine posted:

Here's a question: I'm late to the hitman party so there's a bunch of illusive targets that I missed. How does the reward system work, is it outfit x is unlocked after killing y amount of ETs, or is each one tied to a specific ET and once their week has passed that specific outfit is gone for good?

- One outfit per location you complete an ET contract in.
- One outfit for 5/10/13 ET contracts.
- One for completing an ET with an SA rating.
- One for completing 5 ETs with an SA rating.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2017 17:09

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where the red fern gropes posted:

security room. hope you brought a breach charge! if you use it while wearing a security guard disguise (white one) it's not suspicious, but if you try to open the locker any other way, you'll get shot

Alternatively, blow up a fire extinguisher in the hallway behind the safe and wait for the guards to clear out, then open it with the key you (hopefully) picked up or a lockpick if you have one.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 06:46

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Pilchenstein posted:

Also, when you escort Morgan to his suite to inspect it the staff don't leave, making the challenge to snipe Cross through the window way more of a hassle.

Didn't they always just go upstairs? I can't even remember the standard version anymore. Didn't think it was that bad on pro, as long as you stuff the stalker in the right closet before you get Morgan.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 15:50

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Yeah, it has worked like it was supposed to every time I've cleaned the suite.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 16:25

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Sorced posted:

I found a neat trick to have parvati and rose dead at 1:30 for Pro Colorado SASO.

If you watch the entire intro cutscene of the basic start parvati will be under the hayball at ~1:15 instead of ~2 mins like she usually is. Which means that you can snipe her down before blowing up sean rose with the propane tank at ~1:30 (his timing is not affected by watching the cutscene).
http://i.imgur.com/cIxyA7Y.png vs http://i.imgur.com/sjHG2gA.png

This made having 1 save for 5 objectives not as annoying as I expected it to be.

That is a neat trick. Did the above and circled around to the basement, taking out security cameras with the sniper rifle as needed, then saved behind the boiler before taking care of the rest of the objectives inside the house Can definitely recommend for people wanting to get a sweet sniper rifle.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 17:41

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Pilchenstein posted:

The single save on pro is really trying my patience on Colorado. The least they could've done is fix that bug where you get the prompt for "silent takedown" but in the split second it takes you to press the button, the target's shoulder twitches slightly and you start a really loud fight instead.

Did you you try the start someone suggested earlier? (See my last post.) That made the single save thing much less of an issue for me, though I did have a few times where the game did the poo poo you mentioned. I think a pretty sure way to do a "silent takedown" is to wait for the NPC to be in a "picking poo poo up" pose, though of course that requires them to actually be attempting to pick up some poo poo.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 18:01

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Pilchenstein posted:

It's a good trick but neither of those kills award challenges and those are the two targets with the most challenges associated with them, so I skipped it.

You could do a SASO accident run, that's like, 5 challenges in one go.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 20:02

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Discendo Vox posted:

I did that during my process of finding an SOSA route- the investigating guards wound up searching any possible places I could hide. That said, these are really good points.

When I did my SASO run, I left Graves for last and just booked it right over her body and down into the basement the movement the chandelier dropped on her. Both of them might be more of an issue though, in terms of having a good spot to shoot from?

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 06:24

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Pilchenstein posted:

That's exactly how I cleared them all out too. Silent Ninja was much the same, only with the added excitement of there being two guards on the mountain path. If anyone's planning to try Silent Ninja on pro, two things you should know: 1) stash a silenced pistol on the mountain path because there are cameras absolutely everywhere and 2) if you drag an unconscious guard to the very top of the mountain path, they die for no explained reason, so beware.

Acute Onset Hypothermia is a constant risk at those altitudes.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 07:06

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Pilchenstein posted:

I was thinking it might have been Slightly Uneven Terrain syndrome rearing its head again.

To be fair, that is probably it. I had the same problem, and the guy always died around a particularly uneven part of the mountain path. Extreme Discomfort Syndrome then.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 18:16

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They're are apricots, which is a good thing, since you'd be poisoning people by throwing whole peaches in the pot!

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 19:06

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Dr Cheeto posted:

Apricot pits contain amygdalin just like peach pits.

Seems you're right. Apparently apricots actually contain a greater amount per (moist) weight, so I got it all mixed up.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 20:23

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Nakar posted:

Guy on the top left is Hatamoto from Hitman 2 as well. This is mentioned in the tornado shelter cutscene, Diana mentions at least Hatamoto and D'Alvarde. There's also the Beldingfords as you mentioned and Fernando and Manuel Delgado don't have pictures but are related. The Shadow Client knows that 47 killed all these people despite the fact that all those deaths were officially undetermined or accidental, so either he's been shadow clienting it up a lot or he's aware of 47's MO, which would lend credence to the idea they have the same training. Not sure why those people haven't been X'd out because they are definitely dead as poo poo and have been for years at the time Hitman '16 is set.

I figured 47 was the friend the Shadow Client talks about when he recounts his past attempt at escape, simply because it makes narrative sense.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 16:48

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Nakar posted:

It's very strongly implied, yes. Not super confirmed but it seems unlikely that he'd tell that story without it referring to 47 (and Hall says "You know him" after he tells her the story, so she must've figured it out too). Still, if he's a silent assassin who makes things look like accidents you'd figure it'd be harder to identify his kills even if you also know how to do that. Worth noting that the FSB chief Max Decker talks about with Viktor Novikov was assassinated and set up to look like a suicide by the Shadow Client, so he's good enough that he can do what 47 does and create the impression that people's deaths were caused by other means.

I think it kinda depends on where your focus is. 47's kills might appear to just be random accidents a lot of the time, but if you're tracking a select group of people and they start dropping like flies to random accidents you'd start asking questions - or realize you know the answer if you yourself hail from assassin school. If on top of that you literally went to school with the guy assassinating these people, connecting the dots probably isn't that tough, even if your evidence wouldn't hold up in court.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2017 17:13

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I guess that explains how the Shadow Client managed to suicide someone and leave behind a room locked from the inside.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2017 06:56

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Discendo Vox posted:

That guy's Eugene Cobb, a Herald and a bank director who was the SC's first known target. His plane went down, but his body was never recovered. Everyone who's mentioned him believes he's dead, but is portrait isn't crossed off in the shelter...

The plane was taken down with a breaching charge, a fire extinguisher, and a few coins.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2017 19:50

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

and then the dude bugged out and wouldn't go through the basement.

How did he bug out? From what I could tell, 47 counts as a "guard" in regards to his behavior, so if you didn't stay out of sight he'd either not go down there, or go back up if he was "caught" by 47.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 16:23

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Fneeb posted:

Anyone got any advice for doing Pro SASO on Sapienza? I've pretty much got the soup kill down (I don't know why I didn't just go with the video tapes but my one save is in the kitchen now), I'm just trying to work out the best way to deal with the lab under the assumption that I can kill De Santis with a stalactite after I use the dongle. Better to use the breach charge or go in through the observatory? I figured getting SASO's out the way first would make things less frustrating in the long run, jury is out on that one!

Alternatively, if you're already in the house, you could just drop the virus in her office.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 17:59

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It's closer to a portable electrified puddle, except only De Santis can trigger it.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 19:46

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where the red fern gropes posted:

if pro mode was a bit less horseshit (read: allowed unlimited saves) it would have more replay value to me, but as it stands i'm not touching stuff like colorado because ha ha ha no

I can see the justification for limited saves, I'm just not entirely sure they should be as limited as they are. One manual save plus an autosave might strike a good balance between save-scumming and the frustrations that come with buggy/weird behavior loving you over.

Boiled Water posted:

Which makes it worth it. Too bad it doesn't keep playing after you've murdered.

It should keep playing while you carry it in your hands, at the very least.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2017 13:18

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julian assflange posted:

I'm so poo poo at Paris

The trick is to realize that the facade of the palace is full of frisk-free shortcuts, and people will only notice you if the guards are already out to kill you.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2017 19:40

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Tippis posted:

The news papers would be a neat (re)addition too, but given the complexity of what you can do in this game, it would have to be either hideously complicated, or end up rather imprecise and boring.

I think there'd be some potential in switching things up a bit, by not simply having it be newspapers. Like, if you do really well, the death of some of the targets could just be some minor news ticker while GNN reports on the amazing charity work of Jackie Carrington, or, if you do really badly, it'd be the top story and feature surveillance/cellphone footage of you being an absolute maniac. Or you could have some dude loudly contradicting the official story on twitter, if you left no trace except for a single witness. Whether it'd be worth it in terms of development time is another matter.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2017 16:30

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 12:13

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Mondian posted:

Probably Paris. I love me some Hokkaido, but it's tedious as gently caress on Pro.

I don't think it's that bad, but yeah, Paris is probably the more enjoyable of the two on Pro. Hokkaido Pro is kinda hampered by the sheer amount of extra guards and security cameras in the surgery wing, though it gets points for having an extra security guard which makes it easier to get from the sauna to that wing.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2017 07:28

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