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Just came across this.quote:Poverty in Wisconsin hit its highest level in 30 years during the five-year period ending in 2014, even as the nation's economy was recovering from the Great Recession, according to a trend analysis of U.S. census data just released by University of Wisconsin-Madison researchers. Obviously much more at link. Those cuts and stomping unions sure did the state good.
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Where's that .gif of Scott Walker looking like a goober from the first debate? 'Cos I really want to post that right here.
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Feb 27, 2016 16:27
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punk rebel ecks posted:Just came across this. Well obviously the solution is more cuts and more union-busting!
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Feb 27, 2016 16:36
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All of these governors seem to follow the same recipe: handicap public universities, schools and Medicare, give huge tax breaks to sports stadiums and businesses as a pretext for creating huge budget deficits and financial "emergencies", under deliver on job growth and drive out firms despite a nominally "free market friendly" regime because of the disappearing middle class. I thought Walker was different than Brownback but they both bragged about their extremely mediocre unemployment numbers while their states circled the drain.
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Feb 28, 2016 02:26
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StandardVC10 posted:Where's that .gif of Scott Walker looking like a goober from the first debate? 'Cos I really want to post that right here.  Dmitri-9 posted:All of these governors seem to follow the same recipe: handicap public universities, schools and Medicare, give huge tax breaks to sports stadiums and businesses as a pretext for creating huge budget deficits and financial "emergencies", under deliver on job growth and drive out firms despite a nominally "free market friendly" regime because of the disappearing middle class. I thought Walker was different than Brownback but they both bragged about their extremely mediocre unemployment numbers while their states circled the drain. On the plus side things look good for Russ Feingold to get the Senate seat back.
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Feb 28, 2016 02:34
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Thank you.
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Feb 28, 2016 02:36
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NsRmCapbYw
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Feb 28, 2016 02:42
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Christ. If I were his opponent for the Gubernatorial race I'd just flood commercial breaks with this clip, no text or speech.
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Feb 28, 2016 04:49
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Working as intended!
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Feb 28, 2016 04:57
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Only a 30 year high? Was there really a time in the 80s where things were worse? Hard to believe.
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Feb 28, 2016 10:04
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Yeah. The Regan era was pretty un-loving-believable.
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Feb 28, 2016 10:19
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Yeah. The Regan era was pretty un-loving-believable. It's really strange how idealized the Reagan presidency is. Huge amounts of poverty, but we had shiny new military toys, and a constant deficit to pay for it. Sad to Wisconsin going down this path, hopefully they can pull out before their state becomes permanently like Kansas or Oklahoma.
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Feb 28, 2016 18:42
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Thanks Obama!
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Feb 29, 2016 09:02
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Pervis posted:It's really strange how idealized the Reagan presidency is. Huge amounts of poverty, but we had shiny new military toys, and a constant deficit to pay for it. I know many people from Wisc who have moved to Minneapolis and have no intention of ever moving back. Walker has destroyed that state. Makes me think just how close we had it in 2010 with Dayton and Emmer...
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Feb 29, 2016 14:18
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karthun posted:I know many people from Wisc who have moved to Minneapolis and have no intention of ever moving back. Walker has destroyed that state. It's crazy how common this is.
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Feb 29, 2016 14:47
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Can we rename this the WI politics thread? I'd been thinking about starting one because of this: http://fox6now.com/2015/11/07/state-senate-gop-votes-to-dissolve-government-accountability-board/ The vote was last year, but it's taking effect soon. Basically, the TL;DR is this: Wisconsin has a board of non-partisan judges who oversee elections and rule on whether the state government's actions violate state law. They are essentially the oversight on the Department of Administration (e.g. the Governor's office and administration) and on state elections. This board ruled against the Walker administration and republican legislators on several occasions, so the Rs made a bunch of noise about "unelected judges interfering in political business" and passed a law killing the GAB and replacing it with a board of partisans appointed by the governor. So now our government oversight is stacked with Walker apointees and they have free reign to basically do whatever. The way the republicans in Wisconsin have slowly chipped away at all the nonpartisan controls on state government are downright insidious. We've gone from a progressive state with a history of trying to keep government nonpartisan into a state completely controlled by one party with all of our protections against a situation like that being quietly eroded in ways that are too nuanced for a typical voter to understand and get mad about.l
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Feb 29, 2016 20:09
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I wonder how long it will take for substantial backlash against the likes of Walker in Wisconsin and Brownback in Kansas for people to look around at the assorted desolation that used to be their state and boot them out of office? Is it just that they talk a good game on boostraps and Republican social issues so they're still getting a free pass?
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Feb 29, 2016 22:23
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I went to a screening of some pro-labour documentary a few years back. I guess this would have been around early 2012 back when the events of 2011 were still fresh and before the recall elections had occurred. I can't remember the name of the documentary but it focused on union workers and their struggles with teh government. My memory is likely a bit distorted by time but mostly what I recall was a long series of interviews with fat, middle aged white people telling sob stories about how you'd never ever heard of anything as bad as Scott Walker. Quite a few of them admitted to voting for him or having voted for other Republicans in the past, and the impression one got was that they were simply bewildered that suddenly they were under this "unprecedented" attack. I couldn't help but feel contempt for these idiots who had lived to middle age in the United States without cluing in to what the Republicans represent, and for being so utterly clueless about the state of the USA today that they could somehow fail to understand that nothing about their situation was at all extraordinary, or even unusual. My tendency is to be very pro-labour, even though labour unions are in practice so often terrible, and to generally sympathize with people who get hosed over by their employers. But in this case my barely suppressed private feelings were that a lot of people in Wisconsin kinda had this coming to them. I feel like decades from now when the history books for this period are being written the catastrophic defeat of the unions and the Democratic party in Wisconsin is going to be a prominent early example of of the contradictory political, economic and social trends that ultimately shoved guys like Trump and Sanders (but mostly Trump) into the limelight. It's just such an incredible showcase of how broken both parties are and how completely ineffectual the labour "movement" has become.
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Feb 29, 2016 22:29
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America is pretty singular amongst Democratic industrialized nations in not having an actual labor party. The democrats pretend like they are but it hasn't ever been true and things like Taft-Hartley cement that fact.
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Mar 1, 2016 02:03
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karthun posted:I know many people from Wisc who have moved to Minneapolis and have no intention of ever moving back. Walker has destroyed that state. Minneapolis is basically big Madison, which is to say a pretty nice place.
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Mar 1, 2016 04:44
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I have a feeling Wisconsin will be eternally stuck as a southern state for the next century. There are just too many people here who think Walker is a god among men. They see stuff like this and cheer that it's probably the minorities suffering so good job, Walker, woo. Everyone outside cities drive pickups and want the roads to never be repaired so liberal hippy bicyclers wont leave the cities. It's depressing.
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Mar 1, 2016 06:53
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Wisconsin has always been hella racist. It just took 9/11 for people to remember that. Segregation set the stage for the brain drain. I'm more confused why Minn is so resilient. Michigan and Wisconsin fell like dominos man.
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Mar 1, 2016 07:31
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Shbobdb posted:Wisconsin has always been hella racist. It just took 9/11 for people to remember that. Segregation set the stage for the brain drain. I mean, if you ignore Bachmann anyway.
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Mar 1, 2016 07:45
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Every state has crazies. But the Minn crazies haven't been able to dictate policy.
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Mar 1, 2016 07:50
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Shbobdb posted:Wisconsin has always been hella racist. It just took 9/11 for people to remember that. Segregation set the stage for the brain drain. My supervisor who recently moved to Wisconsin said the change in racial attitudes of whites between Illinois and Wisconsin are very noticeable. He says Wisconsin is far more racist than Illinois.
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Mar 1, 2016 08:21
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punk rebel ecks posted:My supervisor who recently moved to Wisconsin said the change in racial attitudes of whites between Illinois and Wisconsin are very noticeable. He says Wisconsin is far more racist than Illinois. Which part of Illinois? Southern Illinois is straight up neo-confederate.
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Mar 1, 2016 08:28
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Bip Roberts posted:Which part of Illinois? Southern Illinois is straight up neo-confederate. He grew up in North Chicago. Not North-Side of Chicago, but the city of North Chicago, right by Waukegan. I believe he eventually moved to a nicer area in Illinois in Lake County and is now living in Kenosha.
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Mar 1, 2016 08:35
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punk rebel ecks posted:He grew up in North Chicago. Not North-Side of Chicago, but the city of North Chicago, right by Waukegan. I believe he eventually moved to a nicer area in Illinois in Lake County and is now living in Kenosha. Ah yeah, Kenosha is horrible.
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Mar 1, 2016 09:08
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Shbobdb posted:Wisconsin has always been hella racist. It just took 9/11 for people to remember that. Segregation set the stage for the brain drain. A 0.4% difference in the governor race stopped Minnesota from becoming a shithole state like its neighbors. halokiller fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Mar 1, 2016 09:54
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Shbobdb posted:I'm more confused why Minn is so resilient. Michigan and Wisconsin fell like dominos man. Doesn't Minnesota, unlike most other states, has a strong rural white vote due to the Democratic-Farmer Labor Party? Bip Roberts posted:Ah yeah, Kenosha is horrible. I was the RA at the university there. The amount of complaints I got about the Black Student Union was insane. One kid in particular insisted they kept having parties in the building all the time during winter break. The problem is that I was on campus during the entire winter break and knew that wasn't true. A fair share of the whites there were mostly middle and working class and it was easy to see their disdain toward the blacks. "They get all of the Financial Aid money because they are black while I get nothing! (proceeds to not apply for scholarships)!  "
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Mar 1, 2016 11:17
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Oh, also this went down today: http://www.dailycardinal.com/article/2016/02/walker-signs-bill-barring-county-executives-from-serving-in-legislature quote:Gov. Scott Walker signed 46 bills into law Monday, including one prohibiting legislators from concurrently holding office as county executives. Emphasis mine. After two times having conservative county execs join the legislature, they suddenly are really worried about "double dipping" when a liberal tries. Yet again, this is too nuanced for the public to get mad about, but effectively tightens the republican stranglehold on the legislator.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:49
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Shbobdb posted:Wisconsin has always been hella racist. It just took 9/11 for people to remember that. Segregation set the stage for the brain drain. punk rebel ecks posted:Doesn't Minnesota, unlike most other states, has a strong rural white vote due to the Democratic-Farmer Labor Party? Yes, the key difference is the labor unions are still relatively strong in the northern part of the state (which has a lot of mining) and turn out to vote regularly. Right now it's actually causing some tension within the DFL since a lot of the environmentalist liberals who live in the southern part of the state want to block new copper/nickel mines that are currently under consideration but that would instantly that huge chunk of DFL voters to the GOP, potentially forever. Our DFL governor is stuck trying to pull off a balancing act to please both sides which he's actually doing a decent job of; his strategy seems to be to drag out the process as much as possible (without explicitly halting/rejecting the projects) and hope the depressed commodity prices cause the companies to pull out of their own volition like the last time someone tried to open a copper/nickel mine in the area in the 80s. Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Mar 1, 2016 19:53
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Bruce Rauner sees this and thinks it's good. Illinois is next.
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Mar 2, 2016 01:57
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trickle down
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Mar 4, 2016 19:24
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I've lived in Wisconsin for 36 years and in a suburb of Chicago for 4. They are both racist as gently caress. The difference is in Illinois they are more open about it. I worked with a black guy here in WI a couple years ago and you should have heard the stupid questions he was asked. Old people literally saying "I know another colored boy, his name is ________, maybe you know him?" (town of 60k people). It was loving shameful and made me cringe. He is a great guy and took it about as well as anyone possibly could, much better than I would. I could go on for hours about how depressing it is to see us cutting services and education to give billionaires money to build stadiums, Walker's buddies getting interest-free WEDEC loans and defaulting on them, and the rapid deterioration of our tax base and road systems, but I won't. I'd rather spend that time figuring out the best way to get out of here for good.
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Mar 5, 2016 00:01
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Gorson posted:I've lived in Wisconsin for 36 years and in a suburb of Chicago for 4. They are both racist as gently caress. The difference is in Illinois they are more open about it. I worked with a black guy here in WI a couple years ago and you should have heard the stupid questions he was asked. Old people literally saying "I know another colored boy, his name is ________, maybe you know him?" (town of 60k people). It was loving shameful and made me cringe. He is a great guy and took it about as well as anyone possibly could, much better than I would. The Twin Cities are just across the river.
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Gorson posted:I've lived in Wisconsin for 36 years and in a suburb of Chicago for 4. They are both racist as gently caress. The difference is in Illinois they are more open about it. I worked with a black guy here in WI a couple years ago and you should have heard the stupid questions he was asked. Old people literally saying "I know another colored boy, his name is ________, maybe you know him?" (town of 60k people). It was loving shameful and made me cringe. He is a great guy and took it about as well as anyone possibly could, much better than I would. There's always Duluth. Raid the riverlands for Bell's and cheese by day, drink your way safely in the hills by night. Wisconsin's issue is that they have too many individuals who live outside of Madison, and not enough inefficient cheddaries dependent upon government programs employing the rural populations. Y'all need to focus on expanding your core economic strengths rather than trying to woo new sectors. Log more; run more rail; make more cheese; incentivize individuals to live in one city if they wish to escape poverty while milking that city for a taxbase to support export-orientated cheese production. Your road systems should be poo poo, but for 3 - 4 major corredors to support travel between Chicago, the Twin Cities, and Duluth. The issue ain't that your roads are poo poo, its that you don't have a good enough loving alternative like a Chicago-to-Fargo high speed passenger rail line. What value does spending money on infrastructure to '95% white rural rustbelt town which lost its manufacturing plant to NAFTA and now is an epicenter of heroin addiction #93' add for the rest of America? My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Mar 7, 2016 |
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Mar 7, 2016 07:05
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http://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/05/14/the-drunkest-and-driest-cities-in-america/
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Gorson posted:http://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/05/14/the-drunkest-and-driest-cities-in-america/ Makes sense to me. I can't see how anyone could vote for scott walker sober.
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evil_cheese posted:Makes sense to me. I can't see how anyone could vote for scott walker sober. and if you're drunk, you think you're voting for johnnie walker
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!