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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum? This poll is closed. |
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| Remain - Keep Britane Strong! |
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328 | 15.40% |
| Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! |
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115 | 5.40% |
| Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy |
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506 | 23.76% |
| Leave - But only because the EU is terrible |
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157 | 7.37% |
| Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea |
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61 | 2.86% |
| I'm not going to vote |
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19 | 0.89% |
| I'm not allowed to vote |
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411 | 19.30% |
| Pissflaps |
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533 | 25.02% |
| Total: | 2130 votes | ||
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It's Here  Finally, the month of reckoning. Decide whether you prefer Cameron and Osborne to Gove and Galloway, whether you want Britain Stronger In Europe or to Take Back Arse Of Reignity, whether you want the comforting status quo of neoliberal eurocapitalists or a brave new direction with Boris' Johnson, whether you're more terrified of The Market being slightly inconvenienced or by the existence of Moldova, and whether it's easier to get citizenship in Belize or Belgium when this all goes to poo poo.  Patriotic British campaigners encourage undecided or Euroskeptic members of Leicester's large Asian community to vote Remain. A Summary of the Arguments Brexit, Lexit, Remain, Reform, what's actually going on with these camps? Here's some liberalesqe handwringing about both sides through the eyes of "what's best for me?  " which is the closest that I could find to balance. Vice Magazine has an analysis of the referendum through the lens of xbox spacemen or something, because of course they do. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/a-look-at-the-brexit-debate-through-the-filter-of-mass-effect-909 Really the best case for Remain is whatever shite is coming out of the Brexit camp. Here's UKIP's Crisis of Infinite Turks video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yno5lHA-LY8 And here's something that even they quickly disowned:  And gently caress knows what this is. Some kind of xenophobic football accumulator and also the EU costs £350m which will all be spent on the NHS if the UK leaves which is how economics works: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07d9t6x/eu-referendum-campaign-broadcasts-vote-leave-310516 On the other hand, you can see why there's quite a few Black and Asian people worried about staying in, even if Leave also has its share of crazy racists:  And last but not least (although certainly covered least in the press) there's the #lexit campaign, which raises some very valid points but seems to run on the hope that the British government won't be complete shits post-exit:  https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-fb62-To-support-public-ownership-vote-for-an-EU-left-exit A View From Outside Here's what some non-EU countries are saying about the Referendum, because really the UK is the smallest part in this whole thing: • The Sydney Morning Herald calls the referendum "the idiocies of an ageing and rattled parent". • South Africa's Business Day believes that Brexit might require complete trade renegotiation with the SACU states and that this is a serious risk, but could go either way. • UAE's The National thinks that Brexit might be good for Africa. • Russia Today writes that Brexit will condemn Britain to irrelevance according to historians. • Caribbean News Now worries that Brexit might decrease the influence of many Carribean states and territories on Europe. • Malaysia's The Star makes some comparisons to Asean and worries of an 'ever closer union' but overall commends the civility of the debate. • India Today prints a press wire from pro-Brexit MPs of Indian origin saying that Brexit would allow better UK-India ties. • The Hindustan Times on the other hand reports the opposite, that Britain leaving could harm trade opportunities for India. What's the Likely Outcome  Bookies consistently see Remain as the most likely result, but as many previous threads have shown, bookies frequently base their odds more on where other people have put their money than on purely political phenomena. Polls frequently show a close race, or sometimes put Leave ahead, but as many previous threads have shown, polls are sometimes total poo poo. What Else Is Happening? • Tories may have committed actual criminal acts in their local election campaigning (involving finance, not children). The only people who really seem to care are Channel 4 and the SNP though. • Jeremy Corbyn wants war crime prosecutions for Blair. Let the blood gates open. • Corbyn also paused and gave a thoughtful but non-specific answer when asked what class he considered himself. This is bad for class consciousness. • Leicester won the Premier League against 5000/1 odds and also chased some fash out of the city, although the numbers were significantly different in the latter case. Then they came back the next week and the same thing happened and their leader got arrested. • An appeal date has been agreed for the challenge on opposite-sex couples' access to civil partnerships in the High Court, as the judge who upheld the ban agrees that many people would regard the situation as unfair. • The intelligence services (MI5/6) may have been involved in historic child abuse in Northern Ireland, or at least in covering it up. They have claimed that they will cooperate fully with the investigators, who they surely don't have any dirt on. • The Queen's Speech called without irony for people to live within their means, announced the investigatory powers bill whereby data includes all data that isn't data data and we must no longer be passively tolerant of this, and the education for all bill where poor areas get forced academies. • The Psychoactive Substances Act lurched into life like a galvanized corpse stuffed with bad definitions, and the Home Office has now decided that chemicals for research that are not for human consumption are exempt. So outside of head shops and blatant packaging nothing changes? Maybe? What a shitshow.  The Woven Threads of Union The Common Market UKMT May 2016 UKMT April 2016 UKMT March 2016 UKMT February 2016 UKMT January 2016 - Not The Best Month The Heath Declaration Paedogeddon/Press Corruption Thread The Auld Alliance Scotpol Thread Las Brigadas Nacionales EDL/Fash Thread Das Vierte Reich Europol Thread The Eurail Pass Trainchat Thread The Poor Man's Charlie Political Cartoons Thread Le Nouveau Minitel #ukgoons on synIRC. It's mostly active during Question Time, but there's always some people around (thanks crispix). Please keep the following in mind quote:1. It's not a person's fault if they are poor; Bonus rule for our EuroPol guests quote:1. I have no idea if your thread is as racist/fascist/anti-refugee as people say, but don't do that poo poo here thanks. Finally, please rise for our supranational anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKS-FTiRxM8 Let's Play Ball!
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Jun 1, 2016 00:00
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Welcome to the misery everyone. I'm hoping we Remain, but everyone who votes Leave has to move to the Falklands.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:06
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Enough of this bullshit of weighing up my options, I want to know how Edmund Blackadder, Ellen Ripley and the cast of the Muppets would vote. Abstaining due to the mainstream campaigns being bad news for everyone and the leftwing campaigns just being bad. Expecting a Remain result overall.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:10
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Do even 1% go to church every Sunday? I suspect "practicing" protestants are just as crazy as "practicing" catholics. I only wish UKIP was as marginal as any major church. namesake posted:Enough of this bullshit of weighing up my options, I want to know how Edmund Blackadder, Ellen Ripley and the cast of the Muppets would vote. Blackadder? Out Ripley? In Muppets? Split down the middle. Lord of the Llamas fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 00:11
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I voted for Pissflaps but only because "Remain - because I actually really like the EU but I'm not a Tory" wasn't an option. e: Also I'm really looking forward to the thread getting back on track and talking about why JFairfax hates Catholics so much.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaikPv034Hc I love my possibly dying possibly travelling to are country to get treatment for the gay HIV that the NHS won't provide union.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:15
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namesake posted:Enough of this bullshit of weighing up my options, I want to know how Edmund Blackadder, Ellen Ripley and the cast of the Muppets would vote.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:19
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Also Ripley wants to leave because she hates the loving company.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:21
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Blackadder? Out Pfft Blackadder would be like Nigel Farage with better hair and more charm, living it up on EU expenses and doing sod all. So he'd probably put Baldrick in charge of the campaign for Leave while he secretly voted Remain.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:22
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Lord of the Llamas posted:There's a well rounded and thought out response to justify abuse and the institutional covering up of abuse??
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Jun 1, 2016 00:28
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The worst abuse of chemistry in Breaking Bad was the pronunciation of methylamine
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Jun 1, 2016 00:36
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I've learned to be accepting of a variety of different pronunciations for various organic chemicals, simply because there's too many or too few standards, depending on how you look at it. My organic chemistry teacher was from deep within Yorkshire though, and pronounced all foreign words through a strict forrin-to-Yorkshire filter. Took a while before I figured out how grigg-nard reagents were supposed to be pronounced. And vigorous condensers. Very knowledgeable about the actual chemistry, just didn't like the French going around putting French names on things.
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Jun 1, 2016 00:47
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It's an amine with a methyl group, I refuse to believe that anyone pronounces it "meth-la-meen"
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Jun 1, 2016 00:57
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Guavanaut posted:I've learned to be accepting of a variety of different pronunciations for various organic chemicals, simply because there's too many or too few standards, depending on how you look at it. Grog-nard is a much better pronunciation of the word as it is used though. It's onomatopoeic. MrL_JaKiri posted:It's an amine with a methyl group, I refuse to believe that anyone pronounces it "meth-la-meen" It is at least consistent with a-loo-mi-num.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:02
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Guavanaut posted:On the other hand, you can see why there's quite a few Black and Asian people worried about staying in, even if Leave also has its share of crazy racists: Something seems wrong about this. Let me see...  Ah there you go.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:02
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Extreme0 posted:Something seems wrong about this. Let me see...  I think the BBC deliberately left the UK blank to avoid the accusations of bias if they put the SNP or UKIP or literally anyone on there.MrL_JaKiri posted:It's an amine with a methyl group, I refuse to believe that anyone pronounces it "meth-la-meen"
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Jun 1, 2016 01:07
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Guavanaut posted:
I was going to put UKIP as irrelevent as England dosen't have it's own parliament. If you are wondering where Denmark is. It's under the ocean where it belongs.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:11
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I know I'm gonna get a massive collective eyeroll from everyone for this, but all of those parties listed are right wing ethnic nationalists, which the SNP is quite obviously not. Exhibit A, Humza Yousaf.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:26
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NVA aren't there for Belgium either, despite being kind of a wet free-marketeer Flemish version of the SNP. Re: OwlFancier from the last thread: no, they haven't changed the wording on blood donation. It's also really kind of weird how the deferrals work. So just to recap (with a bonus):
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Jun 1, 2016 02:03
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-camerons-former-advisor-admits-8088612 Judge says that the word indecent has no real meaning and is entirely subjective based on what people reckon society as a whole might think about it. Defence responds by arguing that British society are basically a bunch of pedos anyway so. Cross-posting from the Paedogeddon thread because I am loving dying to see how the Daily Mail/The Sun cover this. 
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Jun 1, 2016 02:21
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Gorn Myson posted:Just to respond to this in the last thread; what I meant is that JFairfax has directly stated in the past that being a Catholic means you support the abuse and cover up, when in actuality you probably aren't going to find a lot of Catholics that believe that. The reason I directed people to that thread is that you'll probably get a better impression of what the ground floor view of that situation is from people who are actually on it. I'm sorry you're an apologist for an organisation which so far probably has the all time world record for number of children abused by it's members.
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Jun 1, 2016 03:18
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Does the leave campaign actually have £50 million to blow on a ridiculous sweepstake or are the banking on the odds being astronomically against anyone actually winning?
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Jun 1, 2016 03:53
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Coohoolin posted:I know I'm gonna get a massive collective eyeroll from everyone for this, but all of those parties listed are right wing ethnic nationalists, which the SNP is quite obviously not. Exhibit A, Humza Yousaf. 
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Jun 1, 2016 06:10
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Guavanaut posted:British English manages to pronounce the meth- in methane completely differently to the meth- in any other methyl group, so it's always possible.
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Jun 1, 2016 06:51
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What about meeth-ryl?
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Jun 1, 2016 07:03
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jabby posted:Does the leave campaign actually have £50 million to blow on a ridiculous sweepstake or are the banking on the odds being astronomically against anyone actually winning? They've taken out insurance with Lloyds of London according to their website. The probability is pretty low, but it could happen. I'll sit down and try to work it out later when I look at the competition in more detail. Presumably (1/3)^number of games.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:22
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Oh disregard that. Apparently you also need to predict who goes through to the last 16 and who wins ties. So you're also trying to guess net goals. Can't be faffed to sit down and work that out.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:25
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Milotic posted:Presumably (1/3)^number of games. If every outcome had an equal chance of happening, in practice it'll be a lot lower I expect. But still too high to expect there's much chance of anyone winning.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:40
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Good news, everybody! Number of UK landlords rises to 1.75 millionquote:The rapid pace of growth in buy-to-let investments has been illustrated by new figures showing the number of landlords rising by 7% in 2013-14 to reach 1.75 million.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:40
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LemonDrizzle posted:"Meth-il" with a short 'e' is an American thing.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:41
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Semprini posted:And a town in Fife. Which like most American things, should be destroyed.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:51
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nobodyssweetheart posted:We're not all bad. We gave the world Blues music and ice cream cones. Ice cream cones led to Thatcher and are therefore a Bad Thing.
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Jun 1, 2016 08:18
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Kaislioc posted:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-camerons-former-advisor-admits-8088612 They won't. Not unless the news becomes so big they have to.
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Jun 1, 2016 08:27
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JFairfax posted:I'm sorry you're an apologist for an organisation which so far probably has the all time world record for number of children abused by it's members. I'm pretty sure being Catholic doesn't mean you support child abuse any more than being a Muslim means you support Isis.
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Jun 1, 2016 08:28
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sebzilla posted:Ice cream cones led to Thatcher and are therefore a Bad Thing. Jack Kennedy invented the brownie sundae, though
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Jun 1, 2016 08:51
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Did we manage to go through May without anyone cool and good dying?
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Jun 1, 2016 09:30
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Tesseraction posted:Did we manage to go through May without anyone cool and good dying? Burt Kwouk
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Jun 1, 2016 09:33
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JFairfax posted:I'm sorry you're an apologist for an organisation which so far probably has the all time world record for number of children abused by it's members. they weren't talking about the music industry though?
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Jun 1, 2016 09:39
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When a mafia expert tells us Britain is the most corrupt country in the world, it's time to start listening
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Jun 1, 2016 09:42
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from the previous thread Vengeance of Pandas posted:But not inaccurate, everything that happens stems from a poor healthcare and social security net. Of course the journey reveals some very unpleasant things about various characters and the lengths they're willing to go to or not, but it all starts with Walt needing money for treatment and to secure his family's future if it fails. His arrogance and resentment and belief he'd never had the success or recognition he deserved were still there. And everything that prompts him to consider how easy it'd be - Hank's goading, spotting his connection to Jesse, ease of access to equipment & materials - is unrelated to the cancer. Plus even with the treatment he was originally declined Walt is dead with a year. So it looks like it was the right medical decision that even a hypothetical perfect version or the NHS would have made.
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